[ALUG] Re: IpLUG - Meeting

[Tracy Dickerson]

Please, this is not a get at iPlug or ALUG day. Why is it being treated
as one.

What is wrong with us at iPlug having a wiki of our own? 

Do we have to do everything together? If so, why have separate names?

Now people, play nice. This was only our first meeting. Do not lets
spoil something that was good and fun and interesting with nasty
fighting when there is nothing to fight about.


Tracy x


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From: main-bounces at lists.alug.org.uk
[mailto:main-bounces at lists.alug.org.uk] On Behalf Of MJ Ray
Sent: 20 February 2007 14:23
To: samwise at bagshot-row.org; main at lists.alug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [ALUG] Re: IpLUG - Meeting


samwise <samwise at bagshot-row.org> wrote: [...]
> That said, the consensus last night seemed to me that a flexible wiki 
> was a priority for us and, therefore, I'm going to go ahead and set 
> that up before the next meet under the iPlug name (a branch of ALUG). 
> I hope this doesn't come across as a an attempt to splinter the ALUG 
> community, but I truly don't want to pile on pressure and deadlines to

> a community which, I'm sure, has been doing perfectly well on its own 
> so far ... ;)

Yes, I feel it comes across as an attempt to splinter the ALUG.

Why not use the flexible wiki at http://www.alug.org.uk/contrib/ ? It's
only 'not open' because there's been some low-maintenance efforts to
block spammers.  If you want to replace the WikiEngine, change the
anti-spam and revamp the content, I'm sure many people would welcome
that.  The webmasters could either give you ssh, ftp or a redirect. I
tried to replace it in the past, but lack of familiarity with modern
wikis and a worker going silent mid-change meant it never happened.

> If ALUG moves towards the same open model at any point in the future,

Huh?  How is ALUG not open?  Have the cabal suddenly moved in and locked
it down in the few months since I left?  I doubt it.

All you have to do is pick a job and start doing it yourselves.  You
don't have to "pile on pressure and deadlines" to anyone.

I suggest starting by either editing the pages with the "Edit Page"
links or getting website access of a type you like from either:
  David Reynolds
  Sionide
and if they don't move:
  Jonathan McDowell
  Me (maybe)
should still also have access and can add access, while:
  Darren Casey
  Jonathan McDowell
  Martyn Drake
  UKLUGS (Andy Smith?)
control the web hosting and domains IIRC.  I'm sure one of those will
have time to open the door to you.

I think iPlug seems to have a bad case of 'Not Invented Here' and is
unwilling to cooperate with its neighbours.  I feel it's particularly
stupid to split an existing web site when lugmasters have been looking
at merging/co-hosting dynamic sites, to ease maintenance: there just
aren't enough webmaster-hours to go round.  If iPlug has spare
webmaster-hours, please share them!

Regards,
-- 
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