[ALUG] Alug Wiki Theme
Rob Page
page.rob at gmail.com
Mon Feb 26 11:34:12 GMT 2007
Hi Peter,
Firstly, apologies if this email is really bitty, it's a monday
morning and i'm really really tired, :-)
Yes, that wine theme does look good.
Dave (Paperface) mentioned to me on irc that the wiki will become the
front page providing everything goes well with the trial - i wasn't
aware of this when i posted.
I'd be a lot harsher on the current website ;-), mostly just cause it
doesn't look like anythings happened on it for years.
As for the spammings, have we had any yet?
Cheers,
Rob.
ps: Any preference on any of those themes?
On 26/02/07, samwise <samwise at bagshot-row.org> wrote:
> Hi, Rob.
>
> A new theme would be great to simplify the front view ... I've noticed
> that the WINE wiki is a pretty good example of how to not make it
> quite so scary to people unfamiliar with wikis:
>
> http://wiki.winehq.org/
>
> As for the "should it be the front-page?", it'll come as no surprise
> to anyone (and possibly annoy some) but I would suggest that once we
> have all the useful content (i.e. not out-of-date references to sites
> and ppl which shouldnt be there anymore) moved to the new wiki, the
> old site should be archived.
>
> At the moment, the current main site is made up of two separate ways
> of updating - the main site has a CGI script to edit the HTML
> directly, whilst there's also the six year old wikiwikiweb
> functionality in the Contrib section. Neither of these is
> particularly user-friendly.
>
> I think it's because of this, the site has been left to stagnate for
> far too long. The emphasis for updating the content on the current
> site seems to mainly be on those who are managing the server - which
> is surely wrong (and, yes, I think we could technically go in and use
> the CGI script or Contrib section - but it's not clear, and does not
> appear to the casual user to be encouraged). All members be
> responsible for the content, whilst those who manage the website
> should concentrate on the admin functions that require access to the
> server - keeping the moinmoin wiki installation up to date, secure and
> installing extra modules (if required) etc.
>
> Note: this isn't a slur on the current site or how it's built, it's
> just that the content is not current and having a mix of systems,
> including the editing of raw html, is not encouraging to less
> experienced users. It should be the responsibility of all members to
> maintain, rather than those few who have web experience.
>
> Let the angry responses flow ... ;)
>
> Peter.
>
> P.S. Those with management access to the wiki might also want to
> decide what's best to avoid spammage in the future, as well. It could
> be that you restrict sign up so that someone has to ask for an account
> by mailing someone ... ? Or we could see how things go, with the
> current policy and react if necessary.
>
> On 25/02/07, Rob Page <page.rob at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I've been having a look into setting up a nicer looking default theme
> > for the alug wiki, at:
> >
> > http://www.alug.org.uk/wiki/moin.cgi/
> >
> > However instead of writing my own, it might be worth nicking one that
> > someone else has already written, and if required just tweaking that.
> > So, I propose that all who are interested, go have a look at this nice
> > friendly list of stuff we can steal and pick one:
> >
> > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ThemeMarket#head-ff1060dba5fbc752171749e9b34cc6c93b66e939
> >
> > Bear in mind, this isn't going to be *the* alug wiki theme, merely the
> > one that gets set by default and for non-logged in users.
> >
> > Unless one is vastly more popular, I'll set up a few of the favourites
> > on my website, and then we can have a final vote on which it'll be.
> >
> > Also, as a slight ps, is the alug wiki frontpage supposed to be the
> > alug frontpage, as that is what it's looking like at the moment. If it
> > is going to be the frontpage, shouldn't we make it the frontpage, and
> > iif it's just being the wiki frontpage, then it possibly needs to be
> > less 'welcome to alug' (and have this sort of thing on another page).
> >
> > Cheers,
> > RobRob.
> >
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