[ALUG] Installing VYM version 1.10.0 |installing a .deb for the first time

[MJ Ray]

Wayne Stallwood <ALUGlist at digimatic.co.uk> wrote:
> [...] I am
> sure plenty of Ubuntu code finds it's way back into Debian, [...]

Are you?  Why?

This has been a controversial topic for at least a few years.  I think
Andrew Suffield posted a typical comment in May 2005:-

  "Ubuntu considers it more effective to spend their time on PR to
  make people think they are giving stuff back, than to actually do
  it; it generates more 'goodwill', since most people won't bother to
  check."  http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/05/msg01468.html

In July 2007, Lucas Nussbaum proposed trying to track this.  The
first results have just been linked at
http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/blog/?p=271

That's 192 bugs, including 88 resolved.  #354516 seems the oldest bug,
filed about 675 days ago.  In that time, there seem to have been about
100,000 bugs reported to debian, including about 50,000 fixed.
(Sources:
http://merkel.debian.org/~don/cgi/search.cgi?phrase=Delivered-To%3A+submit%40bugs.debian.org&search=search&skip=0&attribute_field=date&attribute_operator=NUMGE&attribute_value=2006-02-27&order_field=date&order_operator=STRA&max_results=10
http://merkel.debian.org/~don/cgi/search.cgi?phrase=fixed&search=search&skip=0&attribute_field=date&attribute_operator=NUMGE&attribute_value=2006-02-27&attribute_field=%40title&attribute_operator=STRINC&attribute_value=fixed&order_field=date&order_operator=STRA&max_results=10
)

I don't know where to get the numbers for Ubuntu, but it seems that
not much traffic is going between the two, compared to how much is
going on in total.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/
reports that it has 906  bugs fixed elsewhere - even if all of those
are fixed in debian, that's still like 0.1% of bug traffic in the last
two years.

This isn't to say that Ubuntu *isn't* giving back to debian.  It's
just to say that I can't assess it.  I remember almost as many
unhelpful actions done to debian by Ubuntu developers as helpful ones.

Regards,
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