From admin@ncweb.co.uk Sun Jul 18 22:57:04 1999 From: Malcolm Locke To: main@lists.alug.org.uk Subject: [alug] Too funny to be true Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 22:56:59 +0100 Message-ID: <99071822590000.00450@twoboots> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7762694221125929585==" --===============7762694221125929585== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry guys, but this one just has to be shared, I spotted it on www.theregister.co.uk: [22:50:01][malc:malc]$> telnet homepages.msn.com 80 Trying 209.143.224.160... Connected to homepages.msn.com. Escape character is '^]'. GET /unfnky HTTP/1.0 HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 21:47:50 GMT Server: Apache/1.3.6 (Unix) Connection: close Content-Type: text/html 404 Not Found

Not Found

The requested URL /unfnky was not found on this server.

Apache/1.3.6 Server at homepages.msn.com Port 4890

Connection closed by foreign host. I think MS are finally getting the message :) Malc [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] --===============7762694221125929585==-- From jg@cyberstorm.demon.co.uk Sun Jul 18 23:31:25 1999 From: James Green To: main@lists.alug.org.uk Subject: Re: [alug] Too funny to be true Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 23:30:06 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <99071822590000.00450@twoboots> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2639610657709331130==" --===============2639610657709331130== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sun, 18 Jul 1999, Malcolm Locke wrote: > Sorry guys, but this one just has to be shared, I spotted it on > www.theregister.co.uk: [ snip ] > I think MS are finally getting the message :) Microsoft do not run this service. It is under agreement from, erm, whomever they bought it off (obviously). The homepages service, while supported by MS, is actually phisically independant. James. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] --===============2639610657709331130==-- From itb@techprt.co.uk Mon Jul 19 09:26:19 1999 From: Ian Thompson-Bell To: main@lists.alug.org.uk Subject: [alug] KDE speed Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 09:26:17 +0100 Message-ID: <199907190825.JAA21035@orac.techprt.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <99071822590000.00450@twoboots> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5614949447844929373==" --===============5614949447844929373== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have an old Pentium 75 with 1gig HD and 24M RAM running RedHat 5.2. I used to run fvwm95 as my windows manager but I wanted to try the KDE development tools so I loaded KDE instead. However, it is incredibly slooow. For example, it takes about 2.5 minutes to load from typing startx and you can see each individual icon get drawn in the file manager. At first I thought it was a memory thing as I appeared to be using about 8M of swap space so I upgraded to 80M of RAM but it made no difference at all. Ant suggestions?/ Ian Ian Thompson-Bell The Technology Partnership plc Melbourn Science Park Melbourn Herts SG8 6EE United Kingdom Tel: +44 1763 262626 Fax: +44 1763 261582 mailto:itb(a)techprt.co.uk [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] --===============5614949447844929373==-- From martyn.drake@anglian.lug.org.uk Mon Jul 19 09:37:14 1999 From: "Martyn B. Drake" To: main@lists.alug.org.uk Subject: Re: [alug] KDE speed Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 09:36:59 +0100 Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.19990719093427.00a32100@mail.netcom.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <199907190825.JAA21035@orac.techprt.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6072222957485948320==" --===============6072222957485948320== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit At 09:26 AM 7/19/99 +0100, you wrote: >I have an old Pentium 75 with 1gig HD and 24M RAM running >RedHat 5.2. I used to run fvwm95 as my windows manager but I >wanted to try the KDE development tools so I loaded KDE instead. >However, it is incredibly slooow. For example, it takes about 2.5 >minutes to load from typing startx and you can see each individual >icon get drawn in the file manager. Could be your video card - what are you using BTW? How much memory does it have and what screen resolution are you running at? Regards, Martyn [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] --===============6072222957485948320==-- From tony@NOSPAM.consultant.idps.co.uk Mon Jul 19 09:44:57 1999 From: Tony To: main@lists.alug.org.uk Subject: Re: [alug] Too funny to be true Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 09:23:15 +0100 Message-ID: <003501bed1bf$f3c84660$0c10100a@pooh> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4767163911971551953==" --===============4767163911971551953== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd have to agree, I was one of the consultants brought in to build msn.com and eu.microsoft.com at Telehouse Europe in London on behalf of MS. I can say for certain that the virtual host homepages.msn.com was never part of our spec. I don't know where it does live, but for the main MSN sites and for eu.microsoft.com they run as a Microsoft only site. Of course it would have been easier building the sites with Apache *8^) It's a downer when you have such an inflexible brief to work with :) Cheers People Tony Holmes Heterogeneous Networking Consultant Don't forget to remove the NOSPAM ----- Original Message ----- From: James Green To: Sent: Sunday, July 18, 1999 11:30 PM Subject: Re: [alug] Too funny to be true > On Sun, 18 Jul 1999, Malcolm Locke wrote: > > > Sorry guys, but this one just has to be shared, I spotted it on > > www.theregister.co.uk: > > [ snip ] > > > I think MS are finally getting the message :) > > Microsoft do not run this service. It is under agreement from, erm, > whomever they bought it off (obviously). The homepages service, while > supported by MS, is actually phisically independant. > > James. > > [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] > [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] > [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] > [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] > > [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] --===============4767163911971551953==-- From itb@techprt.co.uk Mon Jul 19 10:00:49 1999 From: Ian Thompson-Bell To: main@lists.alug.org.uk Subject: Re: [alug] KDE speed Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 09:59:54 +0100 Message-ID: <199907190859.JAA23797@orac.techprt.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19990719093427.00a32100@mail.netcom.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7153491671983640348==" --===============7153491671983640348== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > At 09:26 AM 7/19/99 +0100, you wrote: > > >I have an old Pentium 75 with 1gig HD and 24M RAM running > >RedHat 5.2. I used to run fvwm95 as my windows manager but I > >wanted to try the KDE development tools so I loaded KDE instead. > >However, it is incredibly slooow. For example, it takes about 2.5 > >minutes to load from typing startx and you can see each individual > >icon get drawn in the file manager. > > Could be your video card - what are you using BTW? How much memory does it > have and what screen resolution are you running at? > > Regards, > > Martyn > > It's a DIamond Stealth 64 DRAM with 1M RAm. I am using the S3 X server. Ian Ian Thompson-Bell The Technology Partnership plc Melbourn Science Park Melbourn Herts SG8 6EE United Kingdom Tel: +44 1763 262626 Fax: +44 1763 261582 mailto:itb(a)techprt.co.uk [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] --===============7153491671983640348==-- From admin@ncweb.co.uk Mon Jul 19 15:31:02 1999 From: Malcolm Locke To: main@lists.alug.org.uk Subject: Re: [alug] KDE speed Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 14:23:47 +0100 Message-ID: <99071914394400.00371@twoboots> In-Reply-To: <199907190825.JAA21035@orac.techprt.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6996058290997830150==" --===============6996058290997830150== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, you wrote: >I have an old Pentium 75 with 1gig HD and 24M RAM running >RedHat 5.2. I used to run fvwm95 as my windows manager but I >wanted to try the KDE development tools so I loaded KDE instead. >However, it is incredibly slooow. For example, it takes about 2.5 >minutes to load from typing startx and you can see each individual >icon get drawn in the file manager. > >At first I thought it was a memory thing as I appeared to be using >about 8M of swap space so I upgraded to 80M of RAM but it made >no difference at all. > >Ant suggestions?/ > >Ian >Ian Thompson-Bell > I have found that the biggest brake on performance with KDE is the window manager, kwm. I now use windowmaker instead of kwm and the performance has increased considerably. You do lose some of the functionality of the KDE window manager, but it is well worth the sacrifice. It is also worth mentioning that you dont need the whole of kde installed to run kde apps, just the kde and qt libs. Malc [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] --===============6996058290997830150==--