I upgraded to Hardy Heron a few days ago and have two puzzles. One is that twice now I've had Network Manager error messages when I shut down, though I've changed none of the settings Bev. I was getting this on one of my machines after upgrade. The simple solution is to edit /etc/init.d/halt and /etc/init.d/reboot to remove the -i option i.e. in /etc/init.d/halt change: halt -d -f -i $poweroff $hddown to # halt -d -f -i $poweroff $hddown halt -d -f $poweroff $hddown and in /etc/init.d/reboot reboot -d -f -i to # reboot -d -f -i reboot -d -f (old lines left and commented out so that I know what I've done.) The man page states that "-i iterates configured network interfaces and brings them down before shutting down. On Linux, this is unnecessary as the kernel will do this anyway." It worked for me anyway. David Davies