On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 11:12:46PM +0100, Brett Parker wrote:
On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 08:17:22PM +0100, Chris G wrote:
On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 04:43:44PM +0100, Brett Parker wrote:
Is this just a case where the () are punctuation in the man page rather than real () to use in the expression? Or am I doing something obvious wrong? (probably!).
Well, afaik, -a is a file test, so that's probably not what you want...
-a is a logical AND, similarly -o is a logical OR.
They're overloaded terms, in bash, at least (under the CONDITIONAL EXPRESSIONS section): -a file True if file exists.
-o optname True if shell option optname is enabled. See the list of options under the description of the -o option to the set builtin below.
It's not surprising I always have trouble getting 'test' (or the bash built-in) to do what I expect it to then! :-)
(And yes, by default, bash uses it's builtins, not test, and so these really are what they say they are, except when you're using them between expressions, at which point they change meaning to logical AND and logical OR, which is the only meaning that have in "test")
Whereas && and || are much more logical (and work in more places, in my experience).
The thing that had me confused recently was that '=' works for strings whereas you have to use -eq for integers.
Also, you don't say if "this", "that" and "theOther" are commands or not... if they are, you probably don't want to be using test to work it out, and something more like...
They were just placeholder expressions.
if ( true && ( false || true ) ); then echo yes; fiAh, but in that case the () are just sub-shells aren't they?
Yes, but as you never actually qualified what you were trying to do, that's perfectly valid. Of course, if you want to use less subshells, the above could be better written as: if true && ( false || true ); then echo yes; fi
If the exit of either the false or the true is true (i.e. $? = 0), and the true has a return code of 0, the if will be true.
If you really don't like subshells, then you can group the list in a set of braces as such... if true && { false || true; }; then echo yes; fi
Note: the ; before the closing brace is important, as is the white space after the { and before the }.
if they're variables, then something more like:
if [ this ] && ( [ that ] || [ theOther ] ); then echo yes; fiWould be your friend.
and that works nicely, and looks very similar to the external program example, making it easier to chop and change between the two.
brettp@erwin:~$ this=0 brettp@erwin:~$ if [ $this == 0 ] && ([ $this == 1 ] || [ $this == 0 ]); then echo yes; fi yes brettp@erwin:~$ if [ $this == 0 ] && ([ $this == 1 ] || [ $this == 1 ]); then echo yes; fi brettp@erwin:~$
I think I prefer C/C++, much tidier! :-)