On 2 April 2013 16:31, MJ Ray mjr@phonecoop.coop wrote:
Owncloud, either with your own storage (it can use lots) but I don't remember if anyone does loss-leader offers like the free 2GB for it yet.
Following a link from OwnCloud's website, I find that OwnDrive.com do a free 1GB account.
However, I have looked at OwnCloud (briefly) a long time ago so I thought I'd have another look at it, using my own server to host it. I decided to go with the install from the OpenSuse Build Farm repositories (onto Ubuntu 12.04), since that takes care of updates. However: $ sudo apt-get install owncloud [...] The following extra packages will be installed: autoconf automake autotools-dev binutils cpp cpp-4.6 gcc gcc-4.6 libc-dev-bin libc6-dev libltdl-dev libmpc2 libmpfr4 libquadmath0 libssl-dev libssl-doc libtool linux-libc-dev m4 manpages-dev php-pear php-xml-parser php5-dev php5-sqlite shtool zlib1g-dev
That's a lot of dependencies that I wouldn't expect?
On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 05:12:20PM +0100, Mark Rogers wrote:
On 2 April 2013 16:31, MJ Ray mjr@phonecoop.coop wrote:
Owncloud, either with your own storage (it can use lots) but I don't remember if anyone does loss-leader offers like the free 2GB for it yet.
Following a link from OwnCloud's website, I find that OwnDrive.com do a free 1GB account.
However, I have looked at OwnCloud (briefly) a long time ago so I thought I'd have another look at it, using my own server to host it. I decided to go with the install from the OpenSuse Build Farm repositories (onto Ubuntu 12.04), since that takes care of updates. However: $ sudo apt-get install owncloud [...] The following extra packages will be installed: autoconf automake autotools-dev binutils cpp cpp-4.6 gcc gcc-4.6 libc-dev-bin libc6-dev libltdl-dev libmpc2 libmpfr4 libquadmath0 libssl-dev libssl-doc libtool linux-libc-dev m4 manpages-dev php-pear php-xml-parser php5-dev php5-sqlite shtool zlib1g-dev
That's a lot of dependencies that I wouldn't expect?
Well it needs a database so that accounts for the php5-sqlite, it's written in PHP and uses XML so that's most of the PHP ones.
For the rest it looks as if it has some sort of 'make' requirement.
I have owncloud installed here by the way and quite like it so far. I'm mostly using the CardDAV server in it.
On 2 April 2013 18:26, Chris Green cl@isbd.net wrote:
Well it needs a database so that accounts for the php5-sqlite, it's written in PHP and uses XML so that's most of the PHP ones.
That bit I'm fine with.
For the rest it looks as if it has some sort of 'make' requirement.
That bit I'm not...
I don't install build environments on my servers, I was always taught that it wasn't good security and in any case they shouldn't be needed.
And, in this case, I'm sure they're not needed: the other install methods don't seem to require them so installing from a repo shouldn't either.
My suspicion is that this is down to the build method being used; I've seen this before where rpm's are converted to .deb format but it's not something I've investigated deeply.
I have owncloud installed here by the way and quite like it so far. I'm mostly using the CardDAV server in it.
I won't give up on OwnCloud just yet, I think I'll just have to avoid the repos for now.
On 03/04/13 06:58, Mark Rogers wrote:
I won't give up on OwnCloud just yet, I think I'll just have to avoid the repos for now.
I installed it from the tarball last night (there is a ubuntu package but it's out of date)
On first impressions I am fairly underwhelmed at the moment if I am honest. As a simple cloud drive it is ok, It supports very basic versioning and deleted item recovery etc. You can of course generate links to share files/folders.
I installed the android sync app (non-free) and yes I can browse and download files and upload photos etc. However even that is missing functionality as the droid client doesn't seem to support syncing contacts and calendars, which given the dedicated support in owncloud seems like a massive oversight (though owncloud does support Cal/CardDAV so you can use a 3rd party app but I would have expected this functionality in the dedicated and paid for app)
A lot of the functionality they talk about on the features page is either buggy or incomplete or just poorly implemented. The External Storage feature to sync up with other cloud services sounded promising but I can't get it to even work for Google Drive and if it did it seems to do little more than just add a shortcut to your GDrive files.
There is a Journal app for shared notes...looked interesting but again on closer inspection is actually quite limited.
I would have liked the music library functionality to have replaced kplaylist on my server, but the streaming playback functionality they have is only really good enough for quickly previewing the files...It didn't index my library very well, and can only order it by Artist it seems. You can't browse your music library by file structure only by the meta info. You can of course see it with your other files but you can't actually play anything from there. The sync clients don't support the music library, no support to save playlists..random play etc..
I'll continue to play with it and see if I can tweak the configuration or find 3rd party plugins that help but for the moment I'd say only the basic functionality is fit for purpose and ignore the "advanced features"
On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 13:40:10 +0100 Wayne Stallwood ALUGlist@digimatic.co.uk allegedly wrote:
On 03/04/13 06:58, Mark Rogers wrote:
I won't give up on OwnCloud just yet, I think I'll just have to avoid the repos for now.
I installed it from the tarball last night (there is a ubuntu package but it's out of date)
On first impressions I am fairly underwhelmed at the moment if I am honest.
Wayne
Thanks for the commentary. Please do keep us up to date on your experience. You have at the least saved me the trouble of trying out owncloud yet.
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