On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 12:09:40PM +0000, Anthony Anson wrote:
Chris G wrote:
My wife uses Evolution as her main mail and appointments program. Most of the time it works OK but it seems most unhelpful when things do go wrong.
For example she recently tried to send an E-Mail and "Error while sending message" appeared in the status line, but nothing more, no reason. As far as I can remember from previous errors appearing there's *never* a reason for the error. I remember it took ages to find a simple type in an E-Mail address because of this, it just said "Error while sending message" and left the poor user to work out that there was a comma instead of a full stop in one of the addressees.
So is more detailed information logged anywhere and/or can one turn on more detailed information in the status line?
(BTW we can't move from Evolution, at least not at the moment, because it's the only program which will synchronise with her Palm. In the longer term the phone will need replacing and then we can consider Thunderbird/Lightning or whatever)
Not tried Evolution and was thinking of doing so - thanks for the warning.
I find Thunderbird is fine for mail and not bad for news - though the filters in the latter are pretty poor.
In the case of that comma, Thunderbird would have alerted you to an 'illegal' character in the address and it would have refused to send it.
That's all one usually needs but Evolution doesn't help.
Chris G wrote:
In the case of that comma, Thunderbird would have alerted you to an 'illegal' character in the address and it would have refused to send it.
That's all one usually needs but Evolution doesn't help.
Which is why I said 'thanks for the warning'. I was going to try Kmail, but I'm told (by staff at my ISP) that the new version is not an improvement on the old one - quite the reverse in their opinion.
"Anthony Anson" tony.anson@girolle.co.uk wrote:
Chris G wrote:
In the case of that comma, Thunderbird would have alerted you to an 'illegal' character in the address and it would have refused to send it.
That's all one usually needs but Evolution doesn't help.
Which is why I said 'thanks for the warning'. I was going to try Kmail,
but I'm told (by staff at my ISP) that the new version is not an improvement on the old one - quite the reverse in their opinion.
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I quite like claws. Clean and simple. Tbird seems to be getting a bit bloated. Evolution is horrible IMO.
Mick
On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 12:51:58PM +0000, Mick wrote:
"Anthony Anson" tony.anson@girolle.co.uk wrote:
Chris G wrote:
In the case of that comma, Thunderbird would have alerted you to an 'illegal' character in the address and it would have refused to send it.
That's all one usually needs but Evolution doesn't help.
Which is why I said 'thanks for the warning'. I was going to try Kmail,
but I'm told (by staff at my ISP) that the new version is not an improvement on the old one - quite the reverse in their opinion.
I quite like claws. Clean and simple. Tbird seems to be getting a bit bloated. Evolution is horrible IMO.
Personally I use mutt but that doesn't help with my original question.
Searching in the .evolution directory I found the file:-
.evolution/cache/tmp/mail.log.mhqCsP
Which contains the current evolution session errors and there one sees the reasons:-
0:1294403668:Error while Refreshing folder. 0:1294403668:Host lookup failed: pop3.isbd.co.uk: Name or service not known
So why just "Error while Refreshing folder" appears on the status line is anybody's guess as it's completely useless. It's particularly silly in cases like the following:-
0:1294403728:Error while Moving messages into folder Inbox archive/NYA/TYOT. 0:1294403728:Cannot append message to mbox file: /home/maxine/.evolution/mail/local/Inbox archive.sbd/NYA.sbd/TYOT: Network is unreachable
What it actually means is that it can't get the message you have asked to move from the remote IMAP server, reporting "Error while Moving messages into folder Inbox archive/NYA/TYOT" (where TYOT is a local folder) is plain misleading.
On 07-Jan-11 12:51:58, Mick wrote:
"Anthony Anson" tony.anson@girolle.co.uk wrote:
Chris G wrote:
In the case of that comma, Thunderbird would have alerted you to an 'illegal' character in the address and it would have refused to send it.
That's all one usually needs but Evolution doesn't help.
Which is why I said 'thanks for the warning'. I was going to try Kmail,
but I'm told (by staff at my ISP) that the new version is not an improvement on the old one - quite the reverse in their opinion.
-- Tony Anson www.girolle.co.uk/
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I quite like claws. Clean and simple. Tbird seems to be getting a bit bloated. Evolution is horrible IMO.
Mick
Claws looks interesting! Could be a candidate replacement for my trusty and well-beloved XFMail (no longer supported, sadly). I'm pleased to note that its standard mailbox format is MH!
One question (apparently not covered in the info on the Claws website):
Can Claws simultaneously open two or more emails in separate windows? This is important for me (and the reason I was led to XFMail in the first place), since I often compose mails using material from other emails, so I need to have these others on-screen at the same time.
For anyone interested: http://www.claws-mail.org
Best wishes to all, Ted.
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On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 01:25:12PM -0000, Ted Harding wrote:
On 07-Jan-11 12:51:58, Mick wrote:
"Anthony Anson" tony.anson@girolle.co.uk wrote:
Chris G wrote:
In the case of that comma, Thunderbird would have alerted you to an 'illegal' character in the address and it would have refused to send it.
That's all one usually needs but Evolution doesn't help.
Which is why I said 'thanks for the warning'. I was going to try Kmail,
but I'm told (by staff at my ISP) that the new version is not an improvement on the old one - quite the reverse in their opinion.
I quite like claws. Clean and simple. Tbird seems to be getting a bit bloated. Evolution is horrible IMO.
Mick
Claws looks interesting! Could be a candidate replacement for my trusty and well-beloved XFMail (no longer supported, sadly).
XFMail was one of the few GUI mail clients that I liked, as you say though, no longer supported - I seem to remember it had a sort of half-hearted rebirth but even when I was looking a few years ago it was moribund.
I'm pleased to note that its standard mailbox format is MH!
One question (apparently not covered in the info on the Claws website):
Can Claws simultaneously open two or more emails in separate windows? This is important for me (and the reason I was led to XFMail in the first place), since I often compose mails using material from other emails, so I need to have these others on-screen at the same time.
My answer to that is two instances of mutt in two windows.
For anyone interested: http://www.claws-mail.org
On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 13:25:12 -0000 (GMT) (Ted Harding) ted.harding@wlandres.net allegedly wrote:
Can Claws simultaneously open two or more emails in separate windows? This is important for me (and the reason I was led to XFMail in the first place), since I often compose mails using material from other emails, so I need to have these others on-screen at the same time.
Yep - no problem. Can do it from separate accounts too.
Mick
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