On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 15:13 +0100, James Freer wrote:
Wayne
Thanks for replying. I did mean to send it to the list. It seems that one has got to enter TO: main address each email to this group. When one just does REPLY it goes direct to the sender - that's what i did this time. I don't know why it should be this way on this group as others like yahoo all go straight to the list... that's the way it should work.
To be honest that behaviour is more down to your mail client than the list, and looking at your headers you aren't using a mail client but google's webmail interface. A lot of mail clients have a reply to list button that reads the header in the mail from the list which announces it as a list and provides the correct reply address, others allow you to set a default reply address for a folder and then have a rule drop the alug mails into this folder. Unfortunately I think most webmail (inc google) lacks this functionality.
The reason it is done this way is to preserve the reply-to header rather than rewriting it, this is considered the "correct" behaviour but unfortunately not all mail clients support it. Hence things like yahoo groups do it the "technically wrong" way and rewrite the reply-to header to be the list address.
It has been a matter of debate on the list several times and comes up for discussion once in a while. But the general consensus each time is to leave it the correct way and deal with it at the client end.
2008/7/25 Wayne Stallwood ALUGlist@digimatic.co.uk:
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 15:13 +0100, James Freer wrote:
Wayne
Thanks for replying. I did mean to send it to the list. It seems that one has got to enter TO: main address each email to this group. When one just does REPLY it goes direct to the sender - that's what i did this time. I don't know why it should be this way on this group as others like yahoo all go straight to the list... that's the way it should work.
To be honest that behaviour is more down to your mail client than the list, and looking at your headers you aren't using a mail client but google's webmail interface. A lot of mail clients have a reply to list button that reads the header in the mail from the list which announces it as a list and provides the correct reply address, others allow you to set a default reply address for a folder and then have a rule drop the alug mails into this folder. Unfortunately I think most webmail (inc google) lacks this functionality.
The reason it is done this way is to preserve the reply-to header rather than rewriting it, this is considered the "correct" behaviour but unfortunately not all mail clients support it. Hence things like yahoo groups do it the "technically wrong" way and rewrite the reply-to header to be the list address.
It has been a matter of debate on the list several times and comes up for discussion once in a while. But the general consensus each time is to leave it the correct way and deal with it at the client end. _______________________________________________
ok thanks Wayne for clearing that up. Most of the time i remember... like today.
I use a mail client for archiving emails to CD but i have to say that i like the conversations that googlemail offers.
I do use Thunderbird on imap on one machine but just doesn't seem worth having on each machine.
james
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:12:14 +0100 Wayne Stallwood ALUGlist@digimatic.co.uk allegedly wrote:
The reason it is done this way is to preserve the reply-to header rather than rewriting it, this is considered the "correct" behaviour but unfortunately not all mail clients support it. Hence things like yahoo groups do it the "technically wrong" way and rewrite the reply-to header to be the list address.
It has been a matter of debate on the list several times and comes up for discussion once in a while. But the general consensus each time is to leave it the correct way and deal with it at the client end.
See old discusssions below:
Reply-to-munging considered harmful: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html
Reply-to-munging considered useful: http://www.blackgate.net/consulting/reply-to_munging_useful.html
Reply-to-munging /is/ really harmful. http://woozle.org/~neale/papers/reply-to-still-harmful
:-)
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2008/7/25 Wayne Stallwood ALUGlist@digimatic.co.uk:
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 15:13 +0100, James Freer wrote:
Thanks for replying. I did mean to send it to the list. It seems that one has got to enter TO: main address each email to this group. When one just does REPLY it goes direct to the sender - that's what i did this time. I don't know why it should be this way on this group as others like yahoo all go straight to the list... that's the way it should work.
To be honest that behaviour is more down to your mail client than the list, and looking at your headers you aren't using a mail client but google's webmail interface. A lot of mail clients have a reply to list button that reads the header in the mail from the list which announces it as a list and provides the correct reply address, others allow you to set a default reply address for a folder and then have a rule drop the alug mails into this folder. Unfortunately I think most webmail (inc google) lacks this functionality.
As another Google Mail user, I can testify to the observed behaviour. It's a toss up between using Reply and remembering to change the To:, or using Reply To All and moving ALUG from Cc: to To:.
Tim.
2008/7/25 Tim Green timothy.j.green@gmail.com:
2008/7/25 Wayne Stallwood ALUGlist@digimatic.co.uk:
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 15:13 +0100, James Freer wrote:
Thanks for replying. I did mean to send it to the list. It seems that one has got to enter TO: main address each email to this group. When one just does REPLY it goes direct to the sender - that's what i did this time. I don't know why it should be this way on this group as others like yahoo all go straight to the list... that's the way it should work.
To be honest that behaviour is more down to your mail client than the list, and looking at your headers you aren't using a mail client but google's webmail interface. A lot of mail clients have a reply to list button that reads the header in the mail from the list which announces it as a list and provides the correct reply address, others allow you to set a default reply address for a folder and then have a rule drop the alug mails into this folder. Unfortunately I think most webmail (inc google) lacks this functionality.
As another Google Mail user, I can testify to the observed behaviour. It's a toss up between using Reply and remembering to change the To:, or using Reply To All and moving ALUG from Cc: to To:.
Tim.
For me i think it'll be the Reply to All. As far as group lists go i think it is far better to reply to list as a whole... copy and paste email address for a private email. If one uses Reply to All for private/direct emails one isn't likely to make the mistake on the odd off day! I've used that on the yahoo classic car groups for 8 years now ( i belong to quite a few). [almost forgot to paste in ALUG this time].
james
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