DemosWanted - 8. Upgrading to and using kernel 2.6 in Debian
I use Debian and have done this so I'd be happy to talk about how easy/dificult it was and the kludges I had to do to get it working. But I'm sure there's others on the list who have also. Can we have a quick show of hands; 1) who else would be interested in a talk on this subject? 2) who else has done this and would be willing to participate in leading a disscussion on it? Keith
On Thursday 01 July 2004 12:07, kpwatson@pop3.ukfsn.org wrote:
I use Debian and have done this so I'd be happy to talk about how easy/dificult it was and the kludges I had to do to get it working.
But I'm sure there's others on the list who have also.
Can we have a quick show of hands;
1) who else would be interested in a talk on this subject?
2) who else has done this and would be willing to participate in leading a disscussion on it?
Keith
Having installed Debian it seemed to me a lot more closed than Red Hat / Mandrake / SuSE, possibly due to the cultural bias against anything 'impure'. So as a Java programmer I was disappointed to be offered a 5-year old Microsoft-level relic rather than the current Sun version. I'd be interested not so much in the OS installation - that was pretty easy - but more on how to manage and use the system on a day-to-day basis without tools like YAST or DrakConf. -- GT
On Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 12:50:52PM +0100, Graham wrote:
On Thursday 01 July 2004 12:07, kpwatson@pop3.ukfsn.org wrote:
I use Debian and have done this so I'd be happy to talk about how easy/dificult it was and the kludges I had to do to get it working.
But I'm sure there's others on the list who have also.
Can we have a quick show of hands;
1) who else would be interested in a talk on this subject?
2) who else has done this and would be willing to participate in leading a disscussion on it?
Keith
Having installed Debian it seemed to me a lot more closed than Red Hat / Mandrake / SuSE, possibly due to the cultural bias against anything 'impure'. So as a Java programmer I was disappointed to be offered a 5-year old Microsoft-level relic rather than the current Sun version. I'd be interested not so much in the OS installation - that was pretty easy - but more on how to manage and use the system on a day-to-day basis without tools like YAST or DrakConf.
There's a lot of unofficial debian sources, as for Java, well, we're still waiting on that for a bit :) Of course, most people just install the latest Java from Sun in to /usr/local/java/blah and then set the right environment variables and paths (it's certainly what I do, but then I only use Java for damned Java applets anyways). As for configuring the system, there's debconf for most packages (dpkg-reconfigure-plow packagename) which will do most things that are simple, otherwise, you learn how the system works, and what tools like YaST and DrakConf do in the background, /etc/ is a lovely place to play in, use it wisely :) There's always linuxconf/webmin if you really do need a front end to configuring things... I tend to be more of the opinion that a text editor and man pages are the right way to administer configuration rather than rely on a front end to edit those files for you, and, in some cases, make rather nasty mistakes. Cheers, -- Brett Parker
On Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 12:07:15PM +0100, kpwatson@pop3.ukfsn.org wrote:
I use Debian and have done this so I'd be happy to talk about how easy/dificult it was and the kludges I had to do to get it working.
Kludges?! What kludges? I didn't use any kludges to get it working on my debian unstable system :/
But I'm sure there's others on the list who have also.
Can we have a quick show of hands;
1) who else would be interested in a talk on this subject?
2) who else has done this and would be willing to participate in leading a disscussion on it?
Might be able to, though I'm usually absolutely useless at describing how something works, or why you do it in such a way. Certainly, kernel compilation in debian should probably be covered, as it's very nice to just install a lovely home rolled .deb kernel-image rather than splatting the files across the filesystem never to be known about again ;) Cheers, -- Brett Parker
On 2004.07.01 13:06, Brett Parker wrote:
On Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 12:07:15PM +0100, kpwatson@pop3.ukfsn.org wrote:
I use Debian and have done this so I'd be happy to talk about how easy/dificult it was and the kludges I had to do to get it working.
Kludges?! What kludges? I didn't use any kludges to get it working on my debian unstable system :/
It is some time since I upgraded to 2.6 on three systems running Debian and the only thing I remember being critical knowledge was that 2.6 uses module-init-tools in place of modutils. I also think I learned that from this list. Steve.
Steve Fosdick wrote:
On 2004.07.01 13:06, Brett Parker wrote:
On Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 12:07:15PM +0100, kpwatson@pop3.ukfsn.org wrote:
I use Debian and have done this so I'd be happy to talk about how easy/dificult it was and the kludges I had to do to get it working.
Kludges?! What kludges? I didn't use any kludges to get it working on my debian unstable system :/
It is some time since I upgraded to 2.6 on three systems running Debian and the only thing I remember being critical knowledge was that 2.6 uses module-init-tools in place of modutils. I also think I learned that from this list.
That, and removing the redundant mouse config lines in XFree86config-4. Somehow I managed to totally kill my box trying to fix that lasst week. Live and learn, eh? BenE (and don't even mention getting the radeon drivers to work, to me. <shudder>)
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Steve Fosdick