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"D.I. Redhouse" <dir21@cus.cam.ac.uk> writes: [...]
Mandrake's OK, but part of me wishes I'd stuck with my RedHat 6.2 install and tried to bodge ViaVoice on to that.
I have to ask, seeing as you appear from the Cam: have you tried Debian yet?
On 20 Aug 2001, MJ Ray wrote:
"D.I. Redhouse" <dir21@cus.cam.ac.uk> writes: [...]
Mandrake's OK, but part of me wishes I'd stuck with my RedHat 6.2 install and tried to bodge ViaVoice on to that.
I have to ask, seeing as you appear from the Cam: have you tried Debian yet?
No. But I can't quite remember why not. <scratches briefly> Didn't it go through a period of being quite badly behind most of the other distributions? Although equally it could be something to do with the fact that a Debian user round these parts once described/denounced RedHat as the Windows 95 of Linux distributions, and I developed a general theory concerning Debian users. So either: a) Debian isn't/wasn't up to the minute enough for me, or b) prejudice. Blind, unreasoned prejudice. -- David Redhouse, Department of Archaeology, University of Cambridge 0787 6372962 dir21@cam.ac.uk http://www.arch.cam.ac.uk/
"D.I. Redhouse" wrote:
No. But I can't quite remember why not.
<scratches briefly>
Didn't it go through a period of being quite badly behind most of the other distributions?
it still does, redhat rules ;) </me crawls back under rock> Sz -- Open Source Specialists http://www.entora.co.uk/ Tel: +44 (0)701 0723686 Fax: +44 (0)870 3214368
On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, D.I. Redhouse wrote:
Didn't it go through a period of being quite badly behind most of the other distributions?
More like other distros try and race each other into having the most unstable software with the biggest version number in! One of the gimp-print developers told me about how Mandrake keep using the unstable beta version of their software in release versions of Mandrake. This is all fine and lovely until people start emailing the gimp-print mailing list telling them how crap their software is when it is Mandrakes fault.
Although equally it could be something to do with the fact that a Debian user round these parts once described/denounced RedHat as the Windows 95 of Linux distributions, and I developed a general theory concerning Debian users.
Yeah, Redhat is alright but whenever they release a new version it is usually followed by loads of patches to get bits of it working that should of when it shipped. Debian appears to have far much more quality control IMHO, I also like Slackware but that appeared to be almost unmaintained when I made the switch to Debian, I could of gone to FreeBSD but couldn't really be bothered as I already knew more about linux. I am still sore with Mandrake after they shipped an entire distro (which I bought at full retail price) with broken init scripts when I was a newbie, I paid for Mandrake as it was supposed to be easy to use/learn. Adam -- This message is Copyleft - all rights reversed Adam
Adam Bower wrote:
On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, D.I. Redhouse wrote:
Didn't it go through a period of being quite badly behind most of the other distributions?
More like other distros try and race each other into having the most unstable software with the biggest version number in!
that's not strictly true, but I know what you mean ;)
Yeah, Redhat is alright but whenever they release a new version it is usually followed by loads of patches to get bits of it working that should of when it shipped.
that has certainly been the case in the past, along with a lot of other distro's (mandrake, suse etc..).. but I believe the newest versions of the popular distro's are getting very stable, and the patches are usually security releases. I'm not making excuses for any of the vendors, but to be honest I don't blame redhat when openldap has a security bug... imho that's life...
Debian appears to have far much more quality control IMHO,
agreed, this makes it rock solid (from what I've heard), but it also means that the latest stuff isn't in there.. I don;t see any thing wrong with that, each to their own...
I am still sore with Mandrake after they shipped an entire distro (which I bought at full retail price) with broken init scripts when I was a newbie, I paid for Mandrake as it was supposed to be easy to use/learn.
how long ago was that, just curious... Sz -- Open Source Specialists http://www.entora.co.uk/ Tel: +44 (0)701 0723686 Fax: +44 (0)870 3214368
On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, Neill Newman wrote:
I'm not making excuses for any of the vendors, but to be honest I don't blame redhat when openldap has a security bug... imho that's life...
True, you can't blame a distro for a bug in someone elses code (aslong as they produce a new package ASAP) although shipping things like broken C compilers should be punished by drowning ;-)
I am still sore with Mandrake after they shipped an entire distro (which I bought at full retail price) with broken init scripts when I was a newbie, I paid for Mandrake as it was supposed to be easy to use/learn.
how long ago was that, just curious...
Sometime around version 6 I think, I was most p****d off as I had been using Redhat 5.1 or 5.2 which worked fine had grabbed a copy of SuSE which I found to be most confusing (some people love yast, some hate it, I fall into the second group) then you pay 30quid for a nice shiny box set designed for newbies and you get a broken system :-( Adam -- This message is Copyleft - all rights reversed Adam
Adam Bower wrote:
On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, Neill Newman wrote:
I'm not making excuses for any of the vendors, but to be honest I don't blame redhat when openldap has a security bug... imho that's life...
True, you can't blame a distro for a bug in someone elses code (aslong as they produce a new package ASAP) although shipping things like broken C compilers should be punished by drowning ;-)
the C compiler wasn't broken, it followed the standards, the previous versions were broken ;)... I really don't want to go there again!!....
I am still sore with Mandrake after they shipped an entire distro (which I bought at full retail price) with broken init scripts when I was a newbie, I paid for Mandrake as it was supposed to be easy to use/learn.
how long ago was that, just curious...
Sometime around version 6 I think, I was most p****d off as I had been using Redhat 5.1 or 5.2 which worked fine had grabbed a copy of SuSE which I found to be most confusing (some people love yast, some hate it, I fall into the second group)
ditto
then you pay 30quid for a nice shiny box set designed for newbies and you get a broken system :-(
not good ;(.. Sz
Adam -- This message is Copyleft - all rights reversed Adam
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