-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [ALUG] Drive image advice required Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:25:10 +0100 From: Barrys linux mail <bazubuntumail@tiscali.co.uk> To: Anglia Linux group <main@lists.alug.org.uk> Hi. I need some guidance on copying a windows xp drive,copying the hole drive including the operating system to another hard drive(the original drive is on its last legs). Wow Thanks for the advice,what i think i will do is look at the drive copy software mentioned and also look at the one on www.easus.com/disk-copy and see if i can back it up to DVD. Then install Ubuntu on a new hard drive and see how i get on with it. It has worked fine on my laptop for over a year, but that has no cd/dvd burning facilities and the new desktop has. It is possible to connect two desktop boxes to one lcd monitor isn't it (by a double connector)? Would really like to move completely to Linux as Don't want Vista and fed up with Microsoft money grabbing new operating system launches to get us to buy more powerful systems.What next minimum Ram 50GB? Well i ain't a buyin Mr Gates (oops sorry you don't work there anymore!) Thanks again chaps (and ladies) Barry
2008/9/19 Barrys linux mail <bazubuntumail@tiscali.co.uk>:
It is possible to connect two desktop boxes to one lcd monitor isn't it (by a double connector)?
Look for a KVM by people like Lindy, Linksys (are they still around?), Belkin, etc. It will take two or more PCs (any OS) and allow them to share one keyboard, mouse and monitor (usually VGA) at the press of a button. Older ones use PS2 for keyboard and mouse, newer ones allow USB. Tim.
On Fri, 2008-09-19 at 10:38 +0100, Barrys linux mail wrote:
Wow Thanks for the advice,what i think i will do is look at the drive copy software mentioned and also look at the one on www.easus.com/disk-copy and see if i can back it up to DVD.
G4L will back up to a compressed image on an FTP server so maybe that will work..but to make the image small enough you need to be using the ntfs clone mode rather than the raw mode.
It is possible to connect two desktop boxes to one lcd monitor isn't it (by a double connector)?
You really need a KVM switch to swap the monitor keyboard and mouse. There are cheap 2 port ones available but the very cheapest (and some of the expensive ones) can be a bit unreliable at giving you your keyboard back after a swap.
Would really like to move completely to Linux as Don't want Vista and fed up with Microsoft money grabbing new operating system launches to get us to buy more powerful systems.What next minimum Ram 50GB?
I think the weakness is that most proprietary software is focus group lead..and if you stick too many people in a room and ask them what they think the software should do you will come out with it doing *everything* 90% of which 90% of people won't ever use. OSS on the other hand has features coded as and when somebody needs them badly enough to bother. MS don't deliberately make the OS a slow heavyweight just to help Intel sell more new CPU's because thanks to OEM bundling and the price of hardware they don't need to. So either it is plain laziness, incompetence or a total lack of understanding as to what people actually want.
Barrys linux mail wrote: Hi.
I think i Know what i am going to do, Put in a second Hard drive (slave?) and install ubuntu onto it.Hopefully the set up will let me partition this drive so if needed i can copy Xp to one partition if i want to(hopefully not). If i am correct ubuntu will set up a duel boot between the old hard drive and the new ubuntu one. Old Xp drive = Master, Linux Drive = Slave.If i have got this correct the only problem i can forsee is when old xp drive finally dies and i remove that drive. will this cock up the dual boot as there only be one operating system (ubuntu). Now I'm getting confused!
Barry
2008/9/20 Barrys linux mail <bazubuntumail@tiscali.co.uk>:
Barrys linux mail wrote:
Hi.
I think i Know what i am going to do, Put in a second Hard drive (slave?) and install ubuntu onto it.Hopefully the set up will let me partition this drive so if needed i can copy Xp to one partition if i want to(hopefully not). If i am correct ubuntu will set up a duel boot between the old hard drive and the new ubuntu one. Old Xp drive = Master, Linux Drive = Slave.If i have got this correct the only problem i can forsee is when old xp drive finally dies and i remove that drive. will this cock up the dual boot as there only be one operating system (ubuntu). Now I'm getting confused!
Barry
I'm no expert but i think you may have it the wrong way round. Switch both drives to cable select [you can make them master and slave but you would probably have to take one out so i didn't bother]. I installed XP on one drive, then swapped cable so that the XP is slave, and installed ubuntu on the other (now master). Worked perfectly on 8.04. XP needs to be slave or you have to install a grub file on windows... or something like that! Details below [no need to do any xorg editing it worked fine]. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179902&highlight=dualboot&page=14 james
2008/9/20 James Freer <jessejazza@googlemail.com>:
2008/9/20 Barrys linux mail <bazubuntumail@tiscali.co.uk>:
Barrys linux mail wrote:
Hi.
I think i Know what i am going to do, Put in a second Hard drive (slave?) and install ubuntu onto it.Hopefully the set up will let me partition this drive so if needed i can copy Xp to one partition if i want to(hopefully not). If i am correct ubuntu will set up a duel boot between the old hard drive and the new ubuntu one. Old Xp drive = Master, Linux Drive = Slave.If i have got this correct the only problem i can forsee is when old xp drive finally dies and i remove that drive. will this cock up the dual boot as there only be one operating system (ubuntu). Now I'm getting confused!
Barry
I'm no expert but i think you may have it the wrong way round. Switch both drives to cable select [you can make them master and slave but you would probably have to take one out so i didn't bother]. I installed XP on one drive, then swapped cable so that the XP is slave, and installed ubuntu on the other (now master). Worked perfectly on 8.04. XP needs to be slave or you have to install a grub file on windows... or something like that! Details below [no need to do any xorg editing it worked fine]. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179902&highlight=dualboot&page=14
james
Sorry i forgot about the last bit. After i had set up the dual boot i did change the xp drive when i realised that i'd rather put xp on a 10 gb drive (which i'd mislaid) than my 40gb. [I only use xp for one or two things like accessing websites that need IE]. I switched the cable so that the xp drive was master, installed xp, swapped the cable so that ubuntu drive was master again and rebooted. Dual boot worked fine - NO NEED to do anything for the ubuntu drive! james
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