We've just counted up & we think we had 12 people. One install took place and there were at least 2 new faces. More when I get home!
MJR
MJR-mobile markj@cloaked.freeserve.co.uk wrote:
We've just counted up & we think we had 12 people. One install took place and there were at least 2 new faces. More when I get home!
Now home. It was nice to meet some new people (and remeet an old member!), but I think others who spent more time talking can comment in more details about what concerns people when they arrive at ALUG. Basically, I think we need to get our act together on a few fronts:
- Publicity/promotion - Planning meetings further ahead - Publicity/promotion - The Lending Library - Publicity coordination - Meeting formats - Freebies
Here are my ideas. What do you think about them?
PUBLICITY/PROMOTION
One pound buys you 20 photocopies these days. If you print 16 of my 3-to-a-page fliers and 4 A4 posters, you can leave two posters and two dozen fliers in two locations. That ain't bad... surely many people can think of two places to leave them. I'll make a wiki page for noting when and where we've leafletted, so that we don't duplicate too much. Libraries seem happy to help as long as you make clear that it's for a volunteer group. Some computer shops are LUG-friendly too.
PLANNING MEETINGS FURTHER AHEAD
We must try to always have three monthly meetings planned at any one time. For the people like me that are trying to find new venues, that's a little harsh, but tough. The growth of the LUG will have benefits like finding new people who can get us into new venues. Right now, we only have UEA 9th June planned (thanks David), so who's going to claim July and August, please? First to the wiki meetings list wins!
PUBLICITY/PROMOTION
This is really important, so here it is again. What other things can we do? We all get free papers and mostly the free papers have events listings in them. We should definitely get in the local free papers for the area of the meetings, but that's probably another task to drop on the hosts, as they live there and know their free papers. That's a bit of a shame, as the hosts do so much to help already, but I don't see another good solution.
Another local media idea is if we can get a proper press release together after a successful event. With the number of people with digital cameras etc, it should be not too difficult to do. First we need another large meeting of the scale of some of the ones around the first birthday, with over 20 at Syleham or vastly inflated figures at UEA. ;-)
THE LENDING LIBRARY
What happened to this? Presumably, we have some books lurking with David Freeman (or at least he knows where they are) still. There was talk of hooking a database up to the web and having a rudimentary book request system. Did it happen?
Failing that, O'Reilly sent a notebook this year. I'm starting to write book movements in there for now, I'll try to get it online and I'll see about stamping the new crop of books with the ALUG logo (just to remind people which copies are ours).
PUBLICITY COORDINATION
Yes, publicity is vital oxygen for a group like ours. It allows us to grow by getting new members in. As some of you know, I made a massively bungled attempt at getting Cam-LUG more involved in cooperating with ALUG. (Actually, I don't think I did so badly, but it didn't work out, so the overall effect is the same.) I still think that some sort of coordination with the activities of other groups is a good idea. For example, I know Peterborough LUG is currently running talks on databases (using PostgreSQL), and their meeting announcements will start appearing in ALUG Announce. I've started announcing some ALUG meetings on their list. I think others have done the same with Cam-LUG lists, although their archive looks a little dead just now. It would be nice to formalise these arrangements a bit more. I'll give it a crack with PLUG.
Probably ultimately ALUG will become an umbrella for smaller LUGs in the various parts of the region, as some of us discussed early on, when we've enough people to do more than one meeting a month and not get all us die-hards at each meeting. Vary it a little, with evening meetings, etc, so everyone can attend something. Yes, this seems a definite good idea to me. With less distance to travel to more frequent shorter meetings, more people will get involved. I want to avoid the "three people sat in a pub LUG" trap, though. Does this seem a good way forwards to others?
MEETING FORMATS
Following on from that, what format do we want meetings to take? Installfests and troubleshooting are all well and good, but it would be nice to have talks and demos on a more formal footing. That said, my past attempts at organising it have been comical failures. Someone else want a go?
FREEBIES
OK, we've been sent some freebies again. Books have been added to the library (more on that later) again. Other stuff (boxed distributions, posters, pins, stickers, t-shirts) is up for grabs, though. Is it OK if we continue to give these away, but if more than one person wants a particular item, the "winner" is picked by a random selection with all wanters equally probable to win? I'll add that to the FAQ if so.
Enough of this rambling. I want your comments. Flame on!
MJR
Hi Guys,
Hope all is well! I have attached comments below, but please excuse any out of turn comments being newbie to the group :) Feel free to tell me to shut up.
-----Original Message----- From: main-admin@lists.alug.org.uk [mailto:main-admin@lists.alug.org.uk]On Behalf Of MJ Ray Sent: 19 May 2002 22:32 To: main@lists.alug.org.uk Subject: Re: [Alug] Install day 2k2 - first report
MJR-mobile markj@cloaked.freeserve.co.uk wrote:
We've just counted up & we think we had 12 people. One install took place and there were at least 2 new faces. More when I get home!
PUBLICITY/PROMOTION
One pound buys you 20 photocopies these days. If you print 16 of my 3-to-a-page fliers and 4 A4 posters, you can leave two posters and two
dozen
fliers in two locations. That ain't bad... surely many people can think
of
two places to leave them. I'll make a wiki page for noting when and where we've leafletted, so that we don't duplicate too much. Libraries seem
happy
to help as long as you make clear that it's for a volunteer group. Some computer shops are LUG-friendly too.
*** Agreed, I am more than happy to print and canvas the Stowmarket area. Not sure where would be effective apart from the Library. I will try some of the local education houses etc.
PUBLICITY/PROMOTION
This is really important, so here it is again. What other things can we
do?
We all get free papers and mostly the free papers have events listings in them. We should definitely get in the local free papers for the area of
the
meetings, but that's probably another task to drop on the hosts, as they live there and know their free papers. That's a bit of a shame, as the hosts do so much to help already, but I don't see another good solution.
Another local media idea is if we can get a proper press release together after a successful event. With the number of people with digital cameras etc, it should be not too difficult to do. First we need another large meeting of the scale of some of the ones around the first birthday, with over 20 at Syleham or vastly inflated figures at UEA. ;-)
*** I suppose if a designated person in each geographical location attempted to speak to local newspapers this could help, as long as there is no cost or at least minimal. If so would it be best if someone creates a generic advertisement of wording etc, which all that needs to be changed is the meeting dates etc.
THE LENDING LIBRARY
What happened to this? Presumably, we have some books lurking with David Freeman (or at least he knows where they are) still. There was talk of hooking a database up to the web and having a rudimentary book request system. Did it happen?
Failing that, O'Reilly sent a notebook this year. I'm starting to write book movements in there for now, I'll try to get it online and I'll see about stamping the new crop of books with the ALUG logo (just to remind people which copies are ours).
*** This sounds cool.
MEETING FORMATS
Following on from that, what format do we want meetings to take? Installfests and troubleshooting are all well and good, but it would be
nice
to have talks and demos on a more formal footing. That said, my past attempts at organising it have been comical failures. Someone else want a go?
*** As a newbie to these events, I enjoyed meeting you guys. Install fests are great and really aid benefit to newbies and other people with certain issues. For myself I would love to see talks and demos, as there is such a wealth of knowledge out there. We can all read these things up in a book, but relayed personal experience prevents certain pitfalls and generally doesn't prolong the installation as we all know.
FREEBIES
OK, we've been sent some freebies again. Books have been added to the library (more on that later) again. Other stuff (boxed distributions, posters, pins, stickers, t-shirts) is up for grabs, though. Is it OK if
we
continue to give these away, but if more than one person wants a
particular
item, the "winner" is picked by a random selection with all wanters
equally
probable to win? I'll add that to the FAQ if so.
*** Freebies, yeah. I support free beer, ah, but from that we need a free bus to bring us home :)
Anyway, just some thoughts and sorry if I have repeated anything past.
Take Care,
J
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MJ Ray markj@cloaked.freeserve.co.uk wrote:
Here are my ideas. What do you think about them?
You may also interrogate me on the IRC channel this evening. ;-)
On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 09:31:37PM +0000, MJ Ray wrote:
PLANNING MEETINGS FURTHER AHEAD
We must try to always have three monthly meetings planned at any one time. For the people like me that are trying to find new venues, that's a little harsh, but tough. The growth of the LUG will have benefits like finding new people who can get us into new venues. Right now, we only have UEA 9th June planned (thanks David), so who's going to claim July and August, please? First to the wiki meetings list wins!
I can host a meeting for July if anyone wants to come to Eastbridge near Leiston in Suffolk.
We can offer:
- Outdoor meeting, weather-permitting with power & net connection (hopefully satellite broadband by then!!)
- Barbecue for the hungry
- Swimming pool for the hardy
Any takers?
Chris Allen chris@cjx.com wrote:
I can host a meeting for July if anyone wants to come to Eastbridge near Leiston in Suffolk.
As no-one has objected yet, I suggest you pick a date (3rd Sunday was normal, but we're all over the shop with the 9th June date) and let's go for it.
We can offer:
- Outdoor meeting, weather-permitting with power & net connection (hopefully
satellite broadband by then!!)
Are you still OK if the weather is bad?
- Barbecue for the hungry
Yum!
- Swimming pool for the hardy
Foolhardy.
Next questions:
1. Where do we go for August? Martyn, do you want to do your talk and where would you like to do it? Venue people, where is an option.
2. Would fenland people like an informal local meeting in late June? I know there are some other LUGgers out here (including some interesting ones I've not seen for a few meetings) and I'm very aware that we still don't have anywhere in Cambs or W.Norfolk, so I'd suggest just meeting up in a pub (pref near a railway station) one evening or weekend day. Good/bad idea?
MJR