I am about to re-install Suse 9.3 Prof. (it didn't fully install last time as a couple of the disks I made from the Internet download were corrupt or just faulty). I have managed to save my files (docs) etc., but how do I make a backup of my email messages and settings? I am running Evolution inGnome 2.10 if that helps. Many thanks peter
On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 15:43 +0100, Peter Hunter wrote:
I am about to re-install Suse 9.3 Prof. (it didn't fully install last time as a couple of the disks I made from the Internet download were corrupt or just faulty). I have managed to save my files (docs) etc., but how do I make a backup of my email messages and settings? I am running Evolution inGnome 2.10 if that helps.
Evolution keeps stuff under .evolution in your home directory. Backing that up is necessary but may not be sufficient. BUT ISTR that's all I did when I upgraded last time. Peter O
On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 16:10 +0100, Peter Onion wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 15:43 +0100, Peter Hunter wrote:
I am about to re-install Suse 9.3 Prof. (it didn't fully install last time as a couple of the disks I made from the Internet download were corrupt or just faulty). I have managed to save my files (docs) etc., but how do I make a backup of my email messages and settings? I am running Evolution inGnome 2.10 if that helps.
Evolution keeps stuff under .evolution in your home directory. Backing that up is necessary but may not be sufficient.
BUT ISTR that's all I did when I upgraded last time.
Peter O
Thanks for that peter.However, in gnome 2.10 on the Suse machine there is no such folder in my home directory (nor is there on on the Ubuntu either). This only place I can find anything to do with evolution is in the /opt/gnome/lib and /opt/gnome/share/gnome/. But there is so much stuff in those two locations I have no idea what to save. Peter
On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 16:48 +0100, Peter Hunter wrote:
Thanks for that peter.However, in gnome 2.10 on the Suse machine there is no such folder in my home directory (nor is there on on the Ubuntu either). This only place I can find anything to do with evolution is in the /opt/gnome/lib and /opt/gnome/share/gnome/. But there is so much stuff in those two locations I have no idea what to save.
It sounds like you havn't actually used evolution yet. I think .evolution gets created the first time you run it as a particular user..... That's all I can say I'm afraid. Peter O
On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 16:57 +0100, Peter Onion wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 16:48 +0100, Peter Hunter wrote:
Thanks for that peter.However, in gnome 2.10 on the Suse machine there is no such folder in my home directory (nor is there on on the Ubuntu either). This only place I can find anything to do with evolution is in the /opt/gnome/lib and /opt/gnome/share/gnome/. But there is so much stuff in those two locations I have no idea what to save.
It sounds like you havn't actually used evolution yet. I think .evolution gets created the first time you run it as a particular user.....
That's all I can say I'm afraid.
Peter O
I've been using nothing but evolution. I have many many messages and an address book full of email addresses. How can I be sending emails if I am not using evolution? And please don't suggest I am using Kmail because I tried that in a previous installation and didn't like it. Thanks for trying anyway Peter. Peter
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Peter Hunter <peterslinuxbox@ntlworld.com> wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 16:10 +0100, Peter Onion wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 15:43 +0100, Peter Hunter wrote:
I am about to re-install Suse 9.3 Prof. (it didn't fully install last time as a couple of the disks I made from the Internet download were corrupt or just faulty). I have managed to save my files (docs) etc., but how do I make a backup of my email messages and settings? I am running Evolution inGnome 2.10 if that helps.
Evolution keeps stuff under .evolution in your home directory. Backing that up is necessary but may not be sufficient.
BUT ISTR that's all I did when I upgraded last time.
Peter O
Thanks for that peter.However, in gnome 2.10 on the Suse machine there is no such folder in my home directory (nor is there on on the Ubuntu either). This only place I can find anything to do with evolution is in the /opt/gnome/lib and /opt/gnome/share/gnome/. But there is so much stuff in those two locations I have no idea what to save.
Try ~/.Evolution (depends on the version of Evolution) and also, make sure that you back up ~/.gnome2_private/Evolution, which is where it stores passwords etc. /opt/gnome will be the system libraries. There shouldn't be user data in there. If you can't find it still, try doing: find ~ -name et-expanded\* which should give you a hint as to where to look. Of course, if you don't trash your /home partition, you shouldn't (in theory) have any problems... but this does rather assume that you have a seperate /home partition. Hope that helps, - -- Brett Parker web: http://www.sommitrealweird.co.uk/ email: iDunno@sommitrealweird.co.uk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCzVL0Eh8oWxevnjQRAlyoAJ4s6+2OAipnZPcvFJeV8Sb7pbsFOQCeJ7tL +gKaIMQpfAoNTWzJLeS0dJU= =Frcz -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 17:06 +0100, Brett Parker wrote:
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Peter Hunter <peterslinuxbox@ntlworld.com> wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 16:10 +0100, Peter Onion wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 15:43 +0100, Peter Hunter wrote:
I am about to re-install Suse 9.3 Prof. (it didn't fully install last time as a couple of the disks I made from the Internet download were corrupt or just faulty). I have managed to save my files (docs) etc., but how do I make a backup of my email messages and settings? I am running Evolution inGnome 2.10 if that helps.
Evolution keeps stuff under .evolution in your home directory. Backing that up is necessary but may not be sufficient.
BUT ISTR that's all I did when I upgraded last time.
Peter O
Thanks for that peter.However, in gnome 2.10 on the Suse machine there is no such folder in my home directory (nor is there on on the Ubuntu either). This only place I can find anything to do with evolution is in the /opt/gnome/lib and /opt/gnome/share/gnome/. But there is so much stuff in those two locations I have no idea what to save.
Try ~/.Evolution (depends on the version of Evolution) and also, make sure that you back up ~/.gnome2_private/Evolution, which is where it stores passwords etc.
/opt/gnome will be the system libraries. There shouldn't be user data in there.
If you can't find it still, try doing: find ~ -name et-expanded\*
which should give you a hint as to where to look.
Of course, if you don't trash your /home partition, you shouldn't (in theory) have any problems... but this does rather assume that you have a seperate /home partition.
Hope that helps, - -- Brett Parker
This is strange. None of those seem to give any clues or results. I'm wondering if, because this is a *broken* installation, stuff has been missed off. I know it said - whilst installing from CDs - *can't find ???* I just clicked on *ignor* and continued on. That's why I want to do a complete new installation. I have bit the bullet and purchased Suse 9.3 prof. It'll be here tomorrow. Funny thing, if I click Applications - Office - Address Book, the Evolution address book is there. If I click on that it opens up my address book! So it has to be there somewhere!! Peter
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Peter Hunter wrote:
This is strange. None of those seem to give any clues or results. I'm wondering if, because this is a *broken* installation, stuff has been missed off. I know it said - whilst installing from CDs - *can't find ???* I just clicked on *ignor* and continued on. That's why I want to do a complete new installation. I have bit the bullet and purchased Suse 9.3 prof. It'll be here tomorrow.
Have you tried 'locate .evolution'? You may need to run 'updatedb' as root first to get this working. beb
On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 18:26 +0100, beb wrote:
Peter Hunter wrote:
This is strange. None of those seem to give any clues or results. I'm wondering if, because this is a *broken* installation, stuff has been missed off. I know it said - whilst installing from CDs - *can't find ???* I just clicked on *ignor* and continued on. That's why I want to do a complete new installation. I have bit the bullet and purchased Suse 9.3 prof. It'll be here tomorrow.
Have you tried 'locate .evolution'? You may need to run 'updatedb' as root first to get this working.
beb
I tried that beb, it says locate: command not found peter
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On Thursday 07 July 2005 17:42, Peter Hunter wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 17:06 +0100, Brett Parker wrote:
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Peter Hunter <peterslinuxbox@ntlworld.com> wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 16:10 +0100, Peter Onion wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 15:43 +0100, Peter Hunter wrote:
I am about to re-install Suse 9.3 Prof. (it didn't fully install last time as a couple of the disks I made from the Internet download were corrupt or just faulty). I have managed to save my files (docs) etc., but how do I make a backup of my email messages and settings? I am running Evolution inGnome 2.10 if that helps.
Evolution keeps stuff under .evolution in your home directory. Backing that up is necessary but may not be sufficient.
BUT ISTR that's all I did when I upgraded last time.
Peter O
Thanks for that peter.However, in gnome 2.10 on the Suse machine there is no such folder in my home directory (nor is there on on the Ubuntu either). This only place I can find anything to do with evolution is in the /opt/gnome/lib and /opt/gnome/share/gnome/. But there is so much stuff in those two locations I have no idea what to save.
Try ~/.Evolution (depends on the version of Evolution) and also, make sure that you back up ~/.gnome2_private/Evolution, which is where it stores passwords etc.
/opt/gnome will be the system libraries. There shouldn't be user data in there.
If you can't find it still, try doing: find ~ -name et-expanded\*
which should give you a hint as to where to look.
Of course, if you don't trash your /home partition, you shouldn't (in theory) have any problems... but this does rather assume that you have a seperate /home partition.
Hope that helps, - -- Brett Parker
This is strange. None of those seem to give any clues or results. I'm wondering if, because this is a *broken* installation, stuff has been missed off. I know it said - whilst installing from CDs - *can't find ???* I just clicked on *ignor* and continued on. That's why I want to do a complete new installation. I have bit the bullet and purchased Suse 9.3 prof. It'll be here tomorrow.
Funny thing, if I click Applications - Office - Address Book, the Evolution address book is there. If I click on that it opens up my address book! So it has to be there somewhere!!
Peter
Hi System Suse 9.3 Pro, on KDE and Gnome when opening home folder View/Show Hidden files, I have .evolution with mail folders There was an lot of bugs in the when I first got it (Apr.) so maybe updates have cured it? I Regards-Nick Daniels
On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 18:42 +0100, Nick Daniels wrote:
On Thursday 07 July 2005 17:42, Peter Hunter wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 17:06 +0100, Brett Parker wrote:
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Peter Hunter <peterslinuxbox@ntlworld.com> wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 16:10 +0100, Peter Onion wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 15:43 +0100, Peter Hunter wrote:
I am about to re-install Suse 9.3 Prof. (it didn't fully install last time as a couple of the disks I made from the Internet download were corrupt or just faulty). I have managed to save my files (docs) etc., but how do I make a backup of my email messages and settings? I am running Evolution inGnome 2.10 if that helps.
Evolution keeps stuff under .evolution in your home directory. Backing that up is necessary but may not be sufficient.
BUT ISTR that's all I did when I upgraded last time.
Peter O
Thanks for that peter.However, in gnome 2.10 on the Suse machine there is no such folder in my home directory (nor is there on on the Ubuntu either). This only place I can find anything to do with evolution is in the /opt/gnome/lib and /opt/gnome/share/gnome/. But there is so much stuff in those two locations I have no idea what to save.
Try ~/.Evolution (depends on the version of Evolution) and also, make sure that you back up ~/.gnome2_private/Evolution, which is where it stores passwords etc.
/opt/gnome will be the system libraries. There shouldn't be user data in there.
If you can't find it still, try doing: find ~ -name et-expanded\*
which should give you a hint as to where to look.
Of course, if you don't trash your /home partition, you shouldn't (in theory) have any problems... but this does rather assume that you have a seperate /home partition.
Hope that helps, - -- Brett Parker
This is strange. None of those seem to give any clues or results. I'm wondering if, because this is a *broken* installation, stuff has been missed off. I know it said - whilst installing from CDs - *can't find ???* I just clicked on *ignor* and continued on. That's why I want to do a complete new installation. I have bit the bullet and purchased Suse 9.3 prof. It'll be here tomorrow.
Funny thing, if I click Applications - Office - Address Book, the Evolution address book is there. If I click on that it opens up my address book! So it has to be there somewhere!!
Peter
Hi System Suse 9.3 Pro, on KDE and Gnome when opening home folder View/Show Hidden files, I have .evolution with mail folders There was an lot of bugs in the when I first got it (Apr.) so maybe updates have cured it? I Regards-Nick Daniels
FANTASTIC ! ! ! Well done Nick, you have won first prize. View Hidden Files revealed everything in the home folder, including .evolution Thanks everyone for helping me to solve this. If nothing else i have learnt loads along the way. Peter
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On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 21:18 +0100, Peter Hunter wrote:
FANTASTIC ! ! ! Well done Nick, you have won first prize. View Hidden Files revealed everything in the home folder, including .evolution
Thanks everyone for helping me to solve this. If nothing else i have learnt loads along the way.
Peter
Doh, should have checked the list before hitting send on my last message.
On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 21:25 +0100, Wayne Stallwood wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 21:18 +0100, Peter Hunter wrote:
FANTASTIC ! ! ! Well done Nick, you have won first prize. View Hidden Files revealed everything in the home folder, including .evolution
Thanks everyone for helping me to solve this. If nothing else i have learnt loads along the way.
Peter
Doh, should have checked the list before hitting send on my last message.
Not to worry Wayne, at least you have just taught me something else. Just goes to show though, always check the obvious first !! Peter
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On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 21:18 +0100, Peter Hunter wrote:
System Suse 9.3 Pro, on KDE and Gnome when opening home folder View/Show Hidden files, I have .evolution with mail folders There was an lot of bugs in the when I first got it (Apr.) so maybe updates have cured it? I Regards-Nick Daniels
FANTASTIC ! ! ! Well done Nick, you have won first prize. View Hidden Files revealed everything in the home folder, including .evolution
What is this "View Hidden Files" you speak of ? "ls -al" is what you need when looking for things in a directory, not some browser thing-a-ma-bob ! Next you'll be telling us you used to use windows ! ;-)
Thanks everyone for helping me to solve this. If nothing else i have learnt loads along the way.
Glad you've got it sorted out.... Let us know what's good in 9.3 when you get it. Peter
On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 22:05 +0100, Peter Onion wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 21:18 +0100, Peter Hunter wrote:
System Suse 9.3 Pro, on KDE and Gnome when opening home folder View/Show Hidden files, I have .evolution with mail folders There was an lot of bugs in the when I first got it (Apr.) so maybe updates have cured it? I Regards-Nick Daniels
FANTASTIC ! ! ! Well done Nick, you have won first prize. View Hidden Files revealed everything in the home folder, including .evolution
What is this "View Hidden Files" you speak of ?
"ls -al" is what you need when looking for things in a directory, not some browser thing-a-ma-bob ! Next you'll be telling us you used to use windows ! ;-)
As a 'novice' I have no idea what 'ls -al' is all about, but I certainly would like to know, maybe you would explain it for me. Whilst on the subject of command line instructions, a little while ago I picked up a book "UNIX The Complete Reference". Knowing that Linux is based on UNIX, can I assume that this book will help me with Linux, or are the two separate?
Let us know what's good in 9.3 when you get it.
Peter
Well, it is all installed and working really well. With Gnome it is almost like using OS X on the Mac. One major problem though, and one miner 'niggle'. The big problem first: When I boot the system (or re-boot), once it's all loaded I get an error box on the screen that says: "Failed to load image ximian - openoffice - writer.png" Details: icon not found. I click ok and the box goes and never comes back. Open Office loads okay (it's OO02) and everything about it 'seems' to be working. So what do I need to do to stop that error message, and, HOW do I do it? The other problem is another iconic fault. This is with Evolution. If I click the evolution icon on the task bar at the top of the screen, I get an error message box that says: "Cannot Launch Icon" Details:Failed to execute child. Process "evolution-2.0" (no such file or directory). However, if I click Applications, Internet, E-mail, Evolution, everything works just fine. prove of that is the fact that I am sending this email. Sorry, whilst I am at it, there is one more. I tried to re-install my backups from the CD I burned. But I cannot mount the CD or DVD drives as I don't have permission (as a user). I can re-boot the machine and log in as root, and then mount the drive and copy the files over, and then re-boot as user. But if I do that I still can't access fy info (address book etc.) as they 'belong' to root! So, how do I mount the drives as user? Lots there to ponder, sorry. Thank you in anticipation Peter
Peter Hunter wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 22:05 +0100, Peter Onion wrote:
"ls -al" is what you need when looking for things in a directory, not some browser thing-a-ma-bob ! Next you'll be telling us you used to use windows ! ;-)
As a 'novice' I have no idea what 'ls -al' is all about, but I certainly would like to know, maybe you would explain it for me. Whilst on the subject of command line instructions, a little while ago I picked up a book "UNIX The Complete Reference". Knowing that Linux is based on UNIX, can I assume that this book will help me with Linux, or are the two separate?
You should be OK with it. Looking at the table of contents on Amazon (assuming it's the same book), it has a chapter on Linux, so hopefully it will point out any differences between linux and other unices in the rest of the book.
One major problem though, and one miner 'niggle'.
The big problem first: When I boot the system (or re-boot), once it's all loaded I get an error box on the screen that says: "Failed to load image ximian - openoffice - writer.png" Details: icon not found. I click ok and the box goes and never comes back. Open Office loads okay (it's OO02) and everything about it 'seems' to be working. So what do I need to do to stop that error message, and, HOW do I do it?
<snip evolution icon problem> Try deleting the icons for Open Office and Evolution on the desktop and adding them again. I've gotten similar errors after an upgrade changed the name of the executable program or when I reinstalled the OS whilst keeping my old config files. beb
Peter Hunter wrote:
Sorry, whilst I am at it, there is one more. I tried to re-install my backups from the CD I burned. But I cannot mount the CD or DVD drives as I don't have permission (as a user). I can re-boot the machine and log in as root, and then mount the drive and copy the files over, and then re-boot as user. But if I do that I still can't access fy info (address book etc.) as they 'belong' to root! So, how do I mount the drives as user?
Have you sorted this yet? If not, then... Chances are your username isn't attached to the correct groups. Could you post the output of 'ls -l /media' (I think SuSE mounts all the discs there) so we can see which group the cdrom belongs to and the output of 'less /etc/groups | grep username (where username is your username (bet you couldn't guess that one <grin>)) so we can see which groups *you* belong too please? beb
Peter Hunter <peterslinuxbox@ntlworld.com> wrote:
As a 'novice' I have no idea what 'ls -al' is all about, but I certainly would like to know, maybe you would explain it for me. [...]
ls -al shows all files (including files with a . at the start, which are usually not shown) in a long format. It could be remembered as: LiSt - All, Long
[...] Knowing that Linux is based on UNIX, can I assume that this book will help me with Linux, or are the two separate?
If it's the command-line, then that's similar. If it's about the internal programming, I don't know. [...]
The big problem first: When I boot the system (or re-boot), once it's all loaded I get an error box on the screen that says: "Failed to load image ximian - openoffice - writer.png" Details: icon not found. I click ok and the box goes and never comes back. Open Office loads okay (it's OO02) and everything about it 'seems' to be working. So what do I need to do to stop that error message, and, HOW do I do it?
*groan* Something is trying to be cleverer than it is. My guess is to look at the startup and session options in the Gnome Config Centre.
[...] But I cannot mount the CD or DVD drives as I don't have permission (as a user). I can re-boot the machine and log in as root, and then mount the drive and copy the files over, and then re-boot as user. But if I do that I still can't access fy info (address book etc.) as they 'belong' to root! So, how do I mount the drives as user?
In the /etc/fstab file, the cd and dvd line needs to contain the option "users". Alternatively, look to install autofs or automount from your distibution. I'm not going into those in detail, as you really ought to read the F manuals before playing with them, because there's scope to break things more. -- MJ Ray (slef), K. Lynn, England, email see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/
On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 17:42 +0100, Peter Hunter wrote:
This is strange. None of those seem to give any clues or results. I'm wondering if, because this is a *broken* installation, stuff has been missed off. I know it said - whilst installing from CDs - *can't find ???* I just clicked on *ignor* and continued on. That's why I want to do a complete new installation. I have bit the bullet and purchased Suse 9.3 prof. It'll be here tomorrow.
It may be worth trying cd .evolution from your home dir, as on my copy of ubuntu Evolution's folder does not have the uppercase E Also just in case this is not clear Peter, the proceeding . in the directory name means that this directory is hidden. If that doesn't work then you could try this as a long shot. With Evolution running open a terminal window and try the following command lsof | grep Inbox or perhaps mail Just to explain that command, lsof lists open files (which if run on it's own will scroll on for a while) so we use the | to pipe the output through grep which searches for the pattern Inbox. It is good practice to usually put the search string in quotes as this protects it from the shell, but in this case we don't need to.
On 07-Jul-05 Peter Hunter wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 16:10 +0100, Peter Onion wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 15:43 +0100, Peter Hunter wrote:
I am about to re-install Suse 9.3 Prof. (it didn't fully install last time as a couple of the disks I made from the Internet download were corrupt or just faulty). I have managed to save my files (docs) etc., but how do I make a backup of my email messages and settings? I am running Evolution inGnome 2.10 if that helps.
Evolution keeps stuff under .evolution in your home directory. Backing that up is necessary but may not be sufficient.
BUT ISTR that's all I did when I upgraded last time.
Peter O
Thanks for that peter.However, in gnome 2.10 on the Suse machine there is no such folder in my home directory (nor is there on on the Ubuntu either). This only place I can find anything to do with evolution is in the /opt/gnome/lib and /opt/gnome/share/gnome/. But there is so much stuff in those two locations I have no idea what to save.
In my home directory (Red Hat 9) I have ~/evolution (not ~/.evolution) which seems to contain all the mailboxes etc. Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 07-Jul-05 Time: 16:56:11 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------
On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 18:35 +0100, Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk wrote:
On 07-Jul-05 Peter Hunter wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 16:10 +0100, Peter Onion wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 15:43 +0100, Peter Hunter wrote:
I am about to re-install Suse 9.3 Prof. (it didn't fully install last time as a couple of the disks I made from the Internet download were corrupt or just faulty). I have managed to save my files (docs) etc., but how do I make a backup of my email messages and settings? I am running Evolution inGnome 2.10 if that helps.
Evolution keeps stuff under .evolution in your home directory. Backing that up is necessary but may not be sufficient.
BUT ISTR that's all I did when I upgraded last time.
Peter O
Thanks for that peter.However, in gnome 2.10 on the Suse machine there is no such folder in my home directory (nor is there on on the Ubuntu either). This only place I can find anything to do with evolution is in the /opt/gnome/lib and /opt/gnome/share/gnome/. But there is so much stuff in those two locations I have no idea what to save.
In my home directory (Red Hat 9) I have ~/evolution (not ~/.evolution) which seems to contain all the mailboxes etc.
Ted.
The only thing in my home directory is a couple of letters I wrote and a folder that says Desktop, which is exactly that. Peter
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