Hi Folks, A little while ago I bought a second-hand laptop (Advent 8117). It came with Windows Vista Home Premium on its 120GB hard drive.
I've put aside doing anything with it for a while, since I wanted to replace the HDD with a larger one, and then install Linux on virgin territory!
I've now bought a new 500GB HDD, have just installed that in the laptop, and intend to get round to installing Linux in due course. However, I first wanted to see how the thing behaved by running Linux off a live CD.
So, after switching on, I got the message "Press F2 for BIOS setup" (or words to that effect). So I did that, and promptly got the message "Operating system not found".
That makes me think that the BIOS setup routines must have been stored in some hidden partition on the original HDD, since I've been able to go into the BIOS when that was still installed.
If that's the case, then it leaves me wondering what to do about BIOS config after I've installed Linux. Or, perhaps, whether there's a problem at all.
If it was just checking for existence of an OS on the hard drive before letting me into the BIOS, then perhaps when Linux is on it will find an OS and let me in.
Or, if the BIOS config stuff really is on the original HDD, and it needs to be able to access that before entering BIOS setup, then I'd be stuck because that wouldn't be on the new HDD. And no obvious way of getting it onto the new HDD.
I do also have another Advent 8117 which still has the original Win Vista on it (I run Linux on that using VirtualBox), so maybe if I knew where to look I could pull the BIOS config stuff off. But then there'd be a question of how to get it onto the new HDD!
So a number of questions!
I'd be very grateful for any comments or suggestions from any experts on this sort of thing.
By the way: after booting from a live Knoppix DVD, it seemed to run very happily indeed. (Except that I'm no great fan of KDE ... )
With thanks, Ted.
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Hi,
On 12 April 2010 20:30, Ted Harding Ted.Harding@manchester.ac.uk wrote:
So, after switching on, I got the message "Press F2 for BIOS setup" (or words to that effect). So I did that, and promptly got the message "Operating system not found".
That makes me think that the BIOS setup routines must have been stored in some hidden partition on the original HDD, since I've been able to go into the BIOS when that was still installed.
I'd be extremely surprised if the BIOS routines are on the HDD - what do you think initialises the hardware to the point that the HDD is recognised and booted? ;)
(yup - the BIOS)
Sounds more like you missed the F2 window - you might need to press F2 faster :)
The "Operating system not found" is the typical message you get when the BIOS doesn't find a bootable disk in the system - this step is AFAIK *after* the BIOS Setup entrance window, which is an indication you missed it and need to press F2 faster.
Srdjan
On 12-Apr-10 19:39:41, Srdjan Todorovic wrote:
Hi,
On 12 April 2010 20:30, Ted Harding Ted.Harding@manchester.ac.uk wrote:
So, after switching on, I got the message "Press F2 for BIOS setup" (or words to that effect). So I did that, and promptly got the message "Operating system not found".
That makes me think that the BIOS setup routines must have been stored in some hidden partition on the original HDD, since I've been able to go into the BIOS when that was still installed.
I'd be extremely surprised if the BIOS routines are on the HDD - what do you think initialises the hardware to the point that the HDD is recognised and booted? ;)
(yup - the BIOS)
Sounds more like you missed the F2 window - you might need to press F2 faster :)
The "Operating system not found" is the typical message you get when the BIOS doesn't find a bootable disk in the system - this step is AFAIK *after* the BIOS Setup entrance window, which is an indication you missed it and need to press F2 faster.
Srdjan
Well done, Srdjan! After reading that, I started again, poised over F2, pressed it as soon as I saw the BIOS prompt, and it worked.
I then re-tried it a few times, waiting for longer periods. It seems I have about 4-5 seconds. When it happened before, I was still seing the BIOS prompt when I pressed F2, but got the "No OS" message; maybe there's a little delay after the BIOS opts out, before the prompt disappears.
Many thanks! Ted.
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On 12 April 2010 20:30, Ted Harding Ted.Harding@manchester.ac.uk wrote:
Hi Folks, A little while ago I bought a second-hand laptop (Advent 8117). It came with Windows Vista Home Premium on its 120GB hard drive.
Now you are in the BIOS, hopefully it is not so old it doesn't recognise greater than 120GB disks!
Tim.
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Tim Green