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Louise J M Worthington

29 Oct 2003 29 Oct '03

9:03 p.m.

It's a long shot, but does anyone know if its possible when using two monitors to have X running on only one of them a console on the other?

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Louise

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James Edward John Taylor

29 Oct 29 Oct

9:16 p.m.

Yes. Dont ask me how.. i managed to do it on a failed attempt to get X running on both. However im using a dual output card, so I dont know if that differs.

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On Wed, 29 Oct 2003, Louise J M Worthington wrote:

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It's a long shot, but does anyone know if its possible when using two monitors to have X running on only one of them a console on the other?

Thanks
Louise
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Wayne Stallwood

10:24 p.m.

On Wednesday 29 October 2003 21:08, Louise J M Worthington wrote:

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It's a long shot, but does anyone know if its possible when using two monitors to have X running on only one of them a console on the other?

Thanks
Louise

I've seen it done too, but I am not sure how you would control keyboard focus between the X display and the console.

After looking around the Net, I found a how-to (you've got me interested now, I think I could use this). However this seems to suggest that only certain cards will let you do it.

http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/9905.0/0997.html

If you think you need one of them, then give me a shout off list as I think I know where I can find one.

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Ben Francis

30 Oct 30 Oct

12:09 a.m.

Wayne Stallwood wrote:

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If you think you need one of them, then give me a shout off list as I think I know where I can find one.

Does anyone know of a graphics card with two monitor outputs and also a TV-out that will run happily under Linux? (LIKE I can afford one of those, but looking can't hurt can it ;) )

-- Ben "tola" Francis

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12:19 a.m.

On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 12:14:42AM +0000, Ben Francis wrote:

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Does anyone know of a graphics card with two monitor outputs and also a TV-out that will run happily under Linux? (LIKE I can afford one of those, but looking can't hurt can it ;) )

possibly http://www.matrox.com/mga/products/parhelia/256mb.cfm

I presume you mean using 2 monitors *and* a tv out at the same time? if not most cards that are not in the cheap end of the market have 2 video out sockets and a tv-out (but you can use either tv-out or monitor, not both at the same time) my geforce 4 ti4200 that cost 100 quid a year ago has that.

Adam

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Ben Francis

12:48 a.m.

abower@thebowery.co.uk wrote:

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most cards that are not in the cheap end of the market have 2 video out sockets and a tv-out (but you can use either tv-out or monitor, not both at the same time) my geforce 4 ti4200 that cost 100 quid a year ago has that.

How do you switch between the two, exactly? this is something I have no experience of. And do you mean you can have either monitor out or tv out or do you mean you can have one monitor out and one tv out, with the geoforce card (I assume the former).

-- Ben "tola" Francis

abower＠thebowery.co.uk

1:04 a.m.

On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 12:53:54AM +0000, Ben Francis wrote:

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How do you switch between the two, exactly? this is something I have no experience of. And do you mean you can have either monitor out or tv out or do you mean you can have one monitor out and one tv out, with the geoforce card (I assume the former).

I have one VGA out and one DVI out (which can be turned into VGA with a cheap adaptor) which can be used at the same time to drive 2 monitors. I also have a tv-out (and a tv-in iirc, but i don't think that will work in linux) which can only be used by itself afaik.

Thanks Adam

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abower＠thebowery.co.uk

29 Oct 29 Oct

11:23 p.m.

On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 09:08:05PM +0000, Louise J M Worthington wrote:

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It's a long shot, but does anyone know if its possible when using two monitors to have X running on only one of them a console on the other?

Yes it is possible, I am 99% sure you can achieve it by putting 2 graphics cards in the machine and leaving the console on which ever card the machine starts the console with and running X on the other card.

Other than that I don't know how to do it, but I have also managed it before on a dual output nvidia card using nvidias non-free drivers, but I think that may have been a bug :)

Thanks Adam

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Paul

30 Oct 30 Oct

9:57 p.m.

Pop a second graphics card in - You'll need to set up a device section for this card and probably explicitly declare the slot number. Once this is done, set the Screen section to use the new driver entry.

Regards, Paul.

On Wednesday 29 October 2003 11:28 pm, abower@thebowery.co.uk wrote:

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It's a long shot, but does anyone know if its possible when using two monitors to have X running on only one of them a console on the other?

Yes it is possible, I am 99% sure you can achieve it by putting 2 graphics cards in the machine and leaving the console on which ever card the machine starts the console with and running X on the other card.

-- "To err is human...to really f*** things up requires the root password."

owen.churchcowley

31 Oct 31 Oct

5:38 p.m.

On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:08:05 +0000 Louise J M Worthington l.worthington@uea.ac.uk wrote:

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It's a long shot, but does anyone know if its possible when using two monitors to have X running on only one of them a console on the other?

Thanks
Louise

I have done this, and run duel head for a day or two, with a flat sceen and a CRT screen to see what I thought, but have come to the conclusion that I will buy a a bigger flat screen soon rather than a second flat screen as it comes out a little cheaper, per pixel and is more intuitive.

Little bugs appear like applications that open windows in the middle of the screen, but nothing to stop you doing this. What I didn't like was with focus follows mouse under icewm keyboard control was even harder,and differences in color on both monitors became very clear.

To get it to work I added and AT Rage-II DVD to my box already with a Matroxs Mystique and it all just worked with the Attached X configuration file. The only Gotcha is that the PCI's physical order effects which card is the primary display.

Other cards may or not work I dont know, but these where the first two I tried as I only use Graphics cards well supported under Linux, so I tend to stick with ATI and Matox.

Regards

Owen

### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION # XF86Config-4 (XFree86 server configuration file) generated by dexconf, the # Debian X Configuration tool, using values from the debconf database. # # Edit this file with caution, and see the XF86Config-4 manual page. # (Type "man XF86Config-4" at the shell prompt.) # # If you want your changes to this file preserved by dexconf, only make changes # before the "### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION" line above, and/or after the # "### END DEBCONF SECTION" line below. # # To change things within the debconf section, run the command: # dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 # as root. Also see "How do I add custom sections to a dexconf-generated # XF86Config or XF86Config-4 file?" in /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz.

Section "Files" FontPath "unix/:7100" # local font server # if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1" FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID" FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo" FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc" FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi" FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi" EndSection

Section "Module" Load "GLcore" Load "bitmap" Load "dbe" Load "ddc" Load "dri" Load "extmod" Load "freetype" Load "glx" Load "int10" Load "record" Load "speedo" Load "type1" Load "vbe" EndSection

Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Generic Keyboard" Driver "keyboard" Option "CoreKeyboard" Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" Option "XkbModel" "pc104" Option "XkbLayout" "gb" EndSection

Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Configured Mouse" Driver "mouse" Option "CorePointer" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection

Section "Device" Identifier "Matrox1" Driver "mga" VideoRam 4000 BusID "PCI:0:08:0" EndSection

Section "Device" Identifier "ATI1" Driver "ati" VendorName "Videocard vendor" BoardName "ATI Mach64 3D RAGE II" BusID "PCI:00:10:0" EndSection

Section "Monitor" Identifier "Hansol-H530" VendorName "Unknown" ModelName "Unknown"

HorizSync 30.0-63.0 VertRefresh 55.0-77.0 ModeLine "1024x768" 78.75 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync Option "DPMS" EndSection

Section "Monitor" Identifier "Other" VendorName "Unknown" ModelName "Unknown"

HorizSync 30.0-63.0 VertRefresh 55.0-77.0 ModeLine "1024x768" 78.75 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync Option "DPMS" EndSection

Section "Monitor" Identifier "Generic Monitor" HorizSync 28-50 VertRefresh 43-75 Option "DPMS" EndSection

Section "Screen" Identifier "Default Screen" #Device "ATI1" Device "Matrox1" Monitor "Hansol-H530" DefaultDepth 16 SubSection "Display" Depth 1 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 4 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 15 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection EndSection

Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen2" Device "ATI1" #Device "Matrox1" Monitor "Generic Monitor" DefaultDepth 16 SubSection "Display" Depth 1 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 4 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 15 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection EndSection

Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Default Layout" Screen "Default Screen" Screen "Screen2" RightOf "Default Screen" InputDevice "Generic Keyboard" InputDevice "Configured Mouse" EndSection

Section "DRI" Mode 0666 EndSection

### END DEBCONF SECTION

Section "ServerFlags" Option "Xinerama" "true" EndSection

Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Default Layout" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 Screen 1 "Screen1" LeftOf "Screen0" InputDevice "Generic Keyboard" InputDevice "Configured Mouse" EndSection

Section "Files" # local font server # if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these FontPath "unix/:7100" FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc" FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1" FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo" FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi" FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi" EndSection

Section "Module" Load "GLcore" Load "bitmap" Load "dbe" Load "ddc" Load "dri" Load "extmod" Load "freetype" Load "glx" Load "int10" Load "record" Load "speedo" Load "type1" Load "vbe" EndSection

Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Generic Keyboard" Driver "keyboard" Option "CoreKeyboard" Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" Option "XkbModel" "pc104" Option "XkbLayout" "gb" EndSection

Section "Monitor" Identifier "Hansol-H530" VendorName "Unknown" ModelName "Unknown"

HorizSync 30.0-63.0 VertRefresh 55.0-77.0 ModeLine "1024x768" 78.75 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync

EndSection

Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor2" VendorName "Unknown" ModelName "Unknown"

HorizSync 30.0-63.0 VertRefresh 55.0-77.0 ModeLine "1024x768" 78.75 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync

EndSection

Section "Device" Identifier "Matrox1" Driver "mga" ChipSet "mgag200 PCI" VideoRam 4000 BusID "PCI:0:08:0" EndSection

Section "Device" Identifier "ATI1" Driver "ati" VendorName "Videocard vendor" BoardName "ATI Mach64 3D RAGE II" BusID "PCI:00:0a:0" EndSection

Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Matrox1" Monitor "Hansol-H530" DefaultDepth 16 SubSection "Display" Depth 1 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 4 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 15 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection EndSection

Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen1" Device "ATI1" Monitor "Monitor2" DefaultDepth 16 SubSection "Display" Depth 1 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 4 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 15 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection EndSection

Section "DRI" Mode 0666 EndSection

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