Hey, I remember those Sun 3-60 machines. Classic!! Then we upgrade them to be Xterm's when the Sparc ELC's arrived!!!
Eee, by heck! Those were the days!
A>
On 21-Feb-00 Green J M K wrote:
Hey all,
Okay, I am stuck in this uni machine. It uses gdm to login, and presents only KDE as the possible environment. But hark! /usr/X11R6/bin/wmaker is present! I tried killall -9 kwm && wmaker (as per a suggestion) but it simply logged me out.
Anyone got any bright ideas?
You don't know a good think when you see it.....
When I was an UG at essex we were using some crap in house 68000 box with no virtual memory or dma and a crap prot of SYS-V I think....
Then we moved to a network of Sun 3-60s :-)
Peter.
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ok: This is really aimed at James, but i figure posting to the list is the best way of getting a workable response.
<mock Australian accent>
Point 1: lose the yellow Point 2: release it. please? Point 3: lose the yellow Point 4: if ppl were looking, and just put in linuxnewbie into ie or ns' smartbrowsing, it would turn up .com first. If nowt was there, they would naturally enough, go to .org. Not having anything is the classic way to lose interested ppl - much more so than having a site that has some features enabled - ones which *work* - and the features that don't work being released when ready. point 5: lose the yellow point 6: we are coming into M$ territory for lateness of release - I don't claim to be able to write websites, but I am working for marketing slime at the mo. Image is critical... point 7: lose the yellow point 8: Beta test - with ppl who didn't write the thing. point 9: lose the yellow point 10: there is no point 10 point 11: lose the yellow
all imo, of course - but lose the yellow ;-)
Flames via me to /dev/null , not the list pls...
Thom, donning Nomex
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On Wed, 23 Feb 2000, Thomas May wrote:
ok: This is really aimed at James, but i figure posting to the list is the best way of getting a workable response.
[ points noted ]
When you go to http://linuxnewbie.com/ and *don't* see a sourceforge error, then you'll know the server admins have fixed apache/whatever and we can proceed in beta form.
There *is* a beta version of the code up, ready for use, but until this problem is fixed, and a certain perl person hands over some workaround code, we are slightly limited in what we can do.
(note: www.linuxnewbie.com for some bizarre reason keeps pointing to linuxnewbie.com and hence the error is frustrating us)
On Wed, 23 Feb 2000 jg@cyberstorm.demon.co.uk wrote:
On Wed, 23 Feb 2000, Thomas May wrote:
ok: This is really aimed at James, but i figure posting to the list is the best way of getting a workable response.
[ points noted ]
When you go to http://linuxnewbie.com/ and *don't* see a sourceforge error, then you'll know the server admins have fixed apache/whatever and we can proceed in beta form.
Fixed :)
There *is* a beta version of the code up, ready for use, but until this problem is fixed, and a certain perl person hands over some workaround code, we are slightly limited in what we can do.
Fixed :)
(note: www.linuxnewbie.com for some bizarre reason keeps pointing to linuxnewbie.com and hence the error is frustrating us)
Fixed :)
Got a call from someone to work on a new design too. And our staff irc channel actually had people in it tonight.
We'll be there in no time now .... :)
On Thu, 24 Feb 2000 jg@cyberstorm.demon.co.uk wrote:
And our staff irc channel actually had people in it tonight.
Far be it from me to agree with James, but it is actually quite useful. I'd thoroughly recommend it to you all - try it, you might like it!
Andrew.
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----- Original Message ----- From: jg@cyberstorm.demon.co.uk To: alug@stu.uea.ac.uk Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2000 12:32 AM Subject: [alug] LinuxNewbie.com
On Wed, 23 Feb 2000 jg@cyberstorm.demon.co.uk wrote:
On Wed, 23 Feb 2000, Thomas May wrote:
ok: This is really aimed at James, but i figure posting to the list is
the
best way of getting a workable response.
[ points noted ]
When you go to http://linuxnewbie.com/ and *don't* see a sourceforge error, then you'll know the server admins have fixed apache/whatever and we can proceed in beta form.
Fixed :)
There *is* a beta version of the code up, ready for use, but until this problem is fixed, and a certain perl person hands over some workaround code, we are slightly limited in what we can do.
Fixed :)
(note: www.linuxnewbie.com for some bizarre reason keeps pointing to linuxnewbie.com and hence the error is frustrating us)
Fixed :)
Got a call from someone to work on a new design too. And our staff irc channel actually had people in it tonight.
We'll be there in no time now .... :)
I'm glad to hear it. I do genuinely feel that it will be a very useful resource - from what people have shown me, and the screen shot you posted, it certainly looks that way - but a lot of my friends whom i've prodded Linux-wards are becoming more and more LN.O oriented, and i don't think their views will change when lnc comes out.
ho hum
Thom
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Hi all has anyone got any tips on connecting a Redhat 6 machine to Freeserve..??? I here its aqward.. for a novice linux user.. :)
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Whilst trying to get redhat online I keep seeing pppd so what is pppd ..??
Cheers Stu
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I've managed to talk a work colleague into trying Linux out for me. He;s given me a laptop (!) to do a demo for him (and I get to keep the laptop; use Linux, get a free laptop, what an advertising slogan :)
He likes GUIs and the general feel of Windows (GUI for everything, not CLI stuff), but is annoyed by Windows' stability (or lack of it). I shall demo him Debian, since I know it, but I'll also make him a recommendation as to which distribution to go for.
Which should I recommend?
I've been told that RH's packaging is rubbish compared to Debian. I've heard good things about Corel and Mandrake as regards getting non-Unix experienced people up to speed and so on. I myself have only used Debian (which is too techie for him, I'd say) and Slackware (which is too, er, not nice :)
Aquarius
On Thu, Feb 24, 2000 at 09:46:23PM +0000, Aquarius wrote:
Which should I recommend?
One that comes with a good book on it. (or equivalent online docs)
Mandrake is based on RH, so uses RH's packaging system. Storm and Corel are based on Debian, but Storm seems to leave you abruptly post-install in my opinion and Corel has that root exploit. Stampede is too early in its life. Slackware is OK, but you really need a book. SuSE I've never given a fair trial.
In short, I don't know what to recommend at the moment. Help!
MJR
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Mandrake 7 is the easiest to install I have tried so far . cheers, BJ
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On Thu, Feb 24, 2000 at 09:46:23PM +0000, Aquarius wrote:
Which should I recommend?
One that comes with a good book on it. (or equivalent online docs)
Mandrake is based on RH, so uses RH's packaging system. Storm and Corel are based on Debian, but Storm seems to leave you abruptly post-install in my opinion and Corel has that root exploit. Stampede is too early in its life. Slackware is OK, but you really need a book. SuSE I've never given a fair trial.
In short, I don't know what to recommend at the moment. Help!
MJR
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On Thu, Feb 24, 2000 at 09:34:59PM -0000, Stu wrote:
Whilst trying to get redhat online I keep seeing pppd so what is pppd ..??
pppd - Point to Point Protocol daemon
Pppd provides the basic LCP, authentication support, and an NCP for establishing and configuring the Internet Protocol (IP) (called the IP Control Protocol, IPCP).
from "man pppd". (ie, it's the program that connects your system to the net)
MJR
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Stu wrote:
Hi all has anyone got any tips on connecting a Redhat 6 machine to Freeserve..??? I here its aqward.. for a novice linux user.. :)
Run linuxconf,
In the dial up networking bits, just put in your freeserve username and password, and select PAP authentication. Works nicely. Same applies if you are with clara net.
I have my machine automatically dialling clara with no problems.
BTW pppd is the program that handles the ppp connection between you and your ISP
Chris Glover wrote:
Stu wrote:
Hi all has anyone got any tips on connecting a Redhat 6 machine to Freeserve..??? I here its aqward.. for a novice linux user.. :)
Run linuxconf,
In the dial up networking bits, just put in your freeserve username and password, and select PAP authentication. Works nicely. Same applies if you are with clara net.
I have my machine automatically dialling clara with no problems.
BTW pppd is the program that handles the ppp connection between you and your ISP
http://mail.lion-breath.com/puma/html/fsti/linux_unix_freesbsd.htm
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dont know why people are saying its hard to achive I was online within 10 minuets....!! Far more simple than I was lead to belive.. so why do all these websites tell you to add this to that file edit this and that... there seems to be no need at all.......just use the interfaces in KDE or Gnome...
Whatever at least I got it working... :)
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On Fri, Feb 25, 2000 at 08:15:44AM -0000, Stu wrote:
dont know why people are saying its hard to achive I was online within 10 minuets....!! Far more simple than I was lead to belive.. so why do all these websites tell you to add this to that file edit this and that... there seems to be no need at all.......just use the interfaces in KDE or Gnome...
Ummm - cos some people haven't got KDE and Gnome and aren't sensible enuff to install ppp config? cos for some things manually writting the file is better? I remember back in the days when I was using Slackware and had to do all that manually (and most other things come to think of it...)
Oh well...hasn't things changed ;)
Brett
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On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, Stu wrote:
dont know why people are saying its hard to achive I was online within 10 minuets....!! Far more simple than I was lead to belive.. so why do all these websites tell you to add this to that file edit this and that... there seems to be no need at all.......just use the interfaces in KDE or Gnome...
I'm the sort of person who won't rely on anything within X unless I have to. That means I won't use a graphical mail/news client unless I get then go back into a console one and continue, and I especially won't use a graphical ppp tool since there's no guarantees I'll stay in X while on-line.
Whatever at least I got it working... :)
Took me about half an hour. The problem most people face is with things like mail setup when most of the terms people are either clueless about (pop3 server, smtp server, dns servers, hostname, etc.) or are unsure of and that tends to slow them down considerably.
James.
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