Hi All
I'm after a couple of TBs of external storage. I've found this on eBuyer:
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/168235
It doesn't mention if it's Linux compatible, any ideas how I find out? Or any suggestions for alternatives? It would be nice to have internal storage but I all the bays in my Shuttle are full and I don't know if I can run SATA drives from me IDE controller.
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 09:09:10AM +0000, Paul Grenyer wrote:
Hi All
I'm after a couple of TBs of external storage. I've found this on eBuyer:
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/168235
It doesn't mention if it's Linux compatible, any ideas how I find out? Or any suggestions for alternatives? It would be nice to have internal storage but I all the bays in my Shuttle are full and I don't know if I can run SATA drives from me IDE controller.
My experience is that most USB drives 'just work' nowadays in Linux, you only get into OS issues when the drive is a network drive connected by ethernet.
Hi
It doesn't mention if it's Linux compatible, any ideas how I find out? Or any suggestions for alternatives? It would be nice to have internal storage but I all the bays in my Shuttle are full and I don't know if I can run SATA drives from me IDE controller.
My experience is that most USB drives 'just work' nowadays in Linux, you only get into OS issues when the drive is a network drive connected by ethernet.
Thanks! Based on that I'll probably give it a go. I can always send it back if it doesn't work.
I have the 1TB model and it works fine!
-- Regards, James ;)
Joan Crawford - "I, Joan Crawford, I believe in the dollar. Everything I earn, I spend." - http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/joan_crawford.html
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 10:01:47 +0000 Chris G cl@isbd.net allegedly wrote:
My experience is that most USB drives 'just work' nowadays in Linux, you only get into OS issues when the drive is a network drive connected by ethernet.
I'm sorry - I don't understand that. What are you saying?
How and why should any Linux based machine (or any other OS for that matter) know or care anything about the architecture, manufacturer, host OS or anything else about any remote storage device accessible over the network?
I can connect to disks mounted on windows servers, *BSDs or Unices or Linux distros (you name it) using a whole slew of dfferent protocols including NFS, SAMBA, FTP, TFTP, HTTP, etc.
What am I missing?
Mick
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On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 09:12:16PM +0000, mick wrote:
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 10:01:47 +0000 Chris G cl@isbd.net allegedly wrote:
My experience is that most USB drives 'just work' nowadays in Linux, you only get into OS issues when the drive is a network drive connected by ethernet.
I'm sorry - I don't understand that. What are you saying?
How and why should any Linux based machine (or any other OS for that matter) know or care anything about the architecture, manufacturer, host OS or anything else about any remote storage device accessible over the network?
I can connect to disks mounted on windows servers, *BSDs or Unices or Linux distros (you name it) using a whole slew of dfferent protocols including NFS, SAMBA, FTP, TFTP, HTTP, etc.
Nearly all cheap NAS systems do *only* Samba and that not very well so don't always talk nicely with linux Samba.
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:53:18 +0000 Chris G cl@isbd.net allegedly wrote:
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 09:12:16PM +0000, mick wrote:
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 10:01:47 +0000 Chris G cl@isbd.net allegedly wrote:
My experience is that most USB drives 'just work' nowadays in Linux, you only get into OS issues when the drive is a network drive connected by ethernet.
Nearly all cheap NAS systems do *only* Samba and that not very well so don't always talk nicely with linux Samba.
OK - I can /just/ about accept that, though my experience is different.
But that is not what you said in your original email. You implied that any networked drive connected over ethernet (no application level protocols mentioned) could give difficulty.
Maybe it's me, but I prefer some precision in advice.
Mick
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On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:36:13AM +0000, mick wrote:
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:53:18 +0000 Chris G cl@isbd.net allegedly wrote:
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 09:12:16PM +0000, mick wrote:
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 10:01:47 +0000 Chris G cl@isbd.net allegedly wrote:
My experience is that most USB drives 'just work' nowadays in Linux, you only get into OS issues when the drive is a network drive connected by ethernet.
Nearly all cheap NAS systems do *only* Samba and that not very well so don't always talk nicely with linux Samba.
OK - I can /just/ about accept that, though my experience is different.
But that is not what you said in your original email. You implied that any networked drive connected over ethernet (no application level protocols mentioned) could give difficulty.
Maybe it's me, but I prefer some precision in advice.
OK, but it wasn't actually relevant to the OP's question so wasn't really advice, more of a throwaway comment. :-)
I certainly had all sorts of issues with a Freecom NAS that I bought a couple of years ago. It had several 'windowsish' incompatibilites when used to backup from Linux systems using rdiff-backup and, in addition, was horribly slow. (This was Samba/CIFS, all it offered)
When used via its USB connection it was pretty much OK and my brother-in-law is still using it that way.
Since then I have avoided anything that doesn't offer NFS, the WD NAS I now have is excellent.
Hi All
It arrived a few minutes ago! Yay! I thought I'd be clever and plug it into my laptop to see where the mount point is, and it was /media/Extended... Then I plugged it into my Ubuntu Server machine and now I can't find the mount point.
Any suggestions, please?
Thanks Paul
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Paul Grenyer paul.grenyer@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All
I'm after a couple of TBs of external storage. I've found this on eBuyer:
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/168235
It doesn't mention if it's Linux compatible, any ideas how I find out? Or any suggestions for alternatives? It would be nice to have internal storage but I all the bays in my Shuttle are full and I don't know if I can run SATA drives from me IDE controller.
-- Thanks Paul
Paul Grenyer e: paul.grenyer@gmail.com b: paulgrenyer.blogspot.com
On 19 Feb 17:50, Paul Grenyer wrote:
Hi All
It arrived a few minutes ago! Yay! I thought I'd be clever and plug it into my laptop to see where the mount point is, and it was /media/Extended... Then I plugged it into my Ubuntu Server machine and now I can't find the mount point.
Any suggestions, please?
The laptop will be using the gnome automounter foo, which is why it automatically mounted it at /media/Extended... you'll find (I hope) that the server version does not automatically mount things that are plugged in to it.
To find what the device name is, watch the back end of /var/log/kern.log when plugging in the device, to mount it, create a mount point and do: mount /dev/<whatever> /mnt/<mymountplace>
Hope that 'elps,
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 05:50:03PM +0000, Paul Grenyer wrote:
Hi All
It arrived a few minutes ago! Yay! I thought I'd be clever and plug it into my laptop to see where the mount point is, and it was /media/Extended... Then I plugged it into my Ubuntu Server machine and
With forward slashes, does your laptop run linux/unix?
now I can't find the mount point.
Any suggestions, please?
Do you have Samba and all its bits and pieces running on your Ubuntu server machine?
Hi
It arrived a few minutes ago! Yay! I thought I'd be clever and plug it into my laptop to see where the mount point is, and it was /media/Extended... Then I plugged it into my Ubuntu Server machine and
With forward slashes, does your laptop run linux/unix?
Yeah, Ubuntu. It would be a bit pointless if it didn't. ;-)
now I can't find the mount point.
Any suggestions, please?
Do you have Samba and all its bits and pieces running on your Ubuntu server machine?
Not sure. Do I need them?
On 19 Feb 20:34, Paul Grenyer wrote:
Hi
It arrived a few minutes ago! Yay! I thought I'd be clever and plug it into my laptop to see where the mount point is, and it was /media/Extended... Then I plugged it into my Ubuntu Server machine and
With forward slashes, does your laptop run linux/unix?
Yeah, Ubuntu. It would be a bit pointless if it didn't. ;-)
now I can't find the mount point.
Any suggestions, please?
Do you have Samba and all its bits and pieces running on your Ubuntu server machine?
Not sure. Do I need them?
Not unless you're planning on sharing the drive elsewhere ;)
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 08:34:40PM +0000, Paul Grenyer wrote:
Hi
It arrived a few minutes ago! Yay! I thought I'd be clever and plug it into my laptop to see where the mount point is, and it was /media/Extended... Then I plugged it into my Ubuntu Server machine and
With forward slashes, does your laptop run linux/unix?
Yeah, Ubuntu. It would be a bit pointless if it didn't. ;-)
now I can't find the mount point.
Any suggestions, please?
Do you have Samba and all its bits and pieces running on your Ubuntu server machine?
Not sure. Do I need them?
Sorry, just had a somewhat liquid supper so I'm not at my brightest and best.
If it's just a USB drive then I'm talking rubbish, hopefully your Ubuntu server should just see it.
On 19 Feb 22:03, Chris G wrote:
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 08:34:40PM +0000, Paul Grenyer wrote:
Hi
It arrived a few minutes ago! Yay! I thought I'd be clever and plug it into my laptop to see where the mount point is, and it was /media/Extended... Then I plugged it into my Ubuntu Server machine and
With forward slashes, does your laptop run linux/unix?
Yeah, Ubuntu. It would be a bit pointless if it didn't. ;-)
now I can't find the mount point.
Any suggestions, please?
Do you have Samba and all its bits and pieces running on your Ubuntu server machine?
Not sure. Do I need them?
Sorry, just had a somewhat liquid supper so I'm not at my brightest and best.
If it's just a USB drive then I'm talking rubbish, hopefully your Ubuntu server should just see it.
And it does, and we've sorted it (offlist ;) - basic summary: Ubuntu Server doesn't tend to be running the gnome-mount deamony thing that automagically mounts drives to /media, this is a *GOOD* thing on a server. So, instead, you plug the drive in and find what the kernel assigns as the device node (usually /dev/sd[a-z]) and the partition number for the partition you're interested in, add a line to /etc/fstab (assuming that the drive is going to be permanently attached) to automount the drive to the right place (the udev rules should have already created a persistant mapping for it, so all should be well).
Just summerising here incase anyone else needs to know.
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