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John Seago johnseago@two-ravens.org.uk wrote:

On Friday 04 Mar 2005 06:26, Brett Parker wrote:

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As for gnome stuff, why not just leave it there? are you short on disk space? Sometimes the Gnome apps can be of use (AbiWord and Gnumeric spring to mind here).

I could just never get used to GNOME, and I think it may be the visual impact rather than anything else. As for AbiWord and Gnumeric, both come seperately IIRC on slackware, indeed I am using AbiWord as the latest KDE word processor has an annoying glitch.

Weirdly, Gnome itself is not a window manager but a desktop environment, the window manager in gnome is (by default) usually sawfish or metacity, both of which are reasonable, the panels can be completely removed (if you so wish) and you can use $favouriteWindowMangler with in the environment (by the time you've done this, basically you're using gnome as a session manager, which is fun).

I believe abiword can be compiled purely against GTK, so probably not a good example of a gnome app, that, my fault ;)

thank you for your help, I now have a start point with which to break Debian, but I findI earn a little with every disaster.

No need to 'break', as long as you don't go on a rampage with rm -rf, you should be able to get back from most disasters, that's what the rather nice package manglement is for ;)

(Of course, this does not apply to people that break their partition table with a copy of "Partition Pro" whatever that is, and then the boot loaders refuse to install... But that's a different story, and something that caused me annoyance yesterday ;)

Cheers, - -- Brett Parker web: http://www.sommitrealweird.co.uk/ email: iDunno@sommitrealweird.co.uk