[Alug]Norwich evening meet August 14th Forum 8.00pm
Next Norwich evening meet on the second thursday of the month i.e. 14th August at 8.00pm in the Forum coffee bar. Syd
On Thursday, August 7, 2003, at 12:28 PM, Syd Hancock wrote:
Next Norwich evening meet on the second thursday of the month i.e. 14th August at 8.00pm in the Forum coffee bar.
Probably turn up to this one...... depending what exciting things are happening. At least it is around 10 minutes walk from my house. C
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 12:28:56PM +0100, Syd Hancock wrote:
Next Norwich evening meet on the second thursday of the month i.e. 14th August at 8.00pm in the Forum coffee bar.
FWIW I should be at this one; don't have the excuse of being in Leeds like for the last one. :) J. -- Love is the delusion that one woman differs from another.
On Sun, 10 Aug 2003, Jonathan McDowell wrote:
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 12:28:56PM +0100, Syd Hancock wrote:
Next Norwich evening meet on the second thursday of the month i.e. 14th August at 8.00pm in the Forum coffee bar.
FWIW I should be at this one; don't have the excuse of being in Leeds like for the last one. :)
J.
/aol I should be too, although I object to the commercialisation of learning which the forum is <g> BenE --------------------------------- Love is all I bring, in me crass t-shirt 'n' ting
BenE <mail@psychoferret.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
I should be too, although I object to the commercialisation of learning which the forum is <g>
If I've not said, I should be there too. If no-one has yet, I'll be adding a lift offer/finding page to the web site contrib area. I can offer a lift from/to Lynn, Swaffham, Dereham, Fakenham or points between for this meeting. Email me if you need. -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and possibly not of any group I know. http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ jabber://slef@jabber.at Creative copyleft computing services via http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ Thought: Edwin A Abbott wrote about trouble with Windows in 1884
On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 09:59, MJ Ray wrote:
BenE <mail@psychoferret.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
I should be too, although I object to the commercialisation of learning which the forum is <g>
If I've not said, I should be there too. If no-one has yet, I'll be adding a lift offer/finding page to the web site contrib area. I can offer a lift from/to Lynn, Swaffham, Dereham, Fakenham or points between for this meeting. Email me if you need.
I'm going to try and make this one which will be my first evening meeting. Cheers, BJ
Looks as if there are going to be a good turn out again - that's very encouraging! Unfortunately for me I am being forced to absorb vitamin D in the heat wave enveloping Brittany.. have a great chat and hope to see you all another time. Syd
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 12:28:56PM +0100, Syd Hancock wrote:
Next Norwich evening meet on the second thursday of the month i.e. 14th August at 8.00pm in the Forum coffee bar.
I will be there this evening, does anyone want to borrow and of the library books? We have available, The root of all evil, user friendly comic strip. Learning Redhat linux (o'reilly) Using Samba (2nd edition, o'reilly) Linux server hacks (o'reilly) there is also a debian 3.0 DVD set. Adam -- jabberid = quinophex@jabber.earth.li AFFS || http://www.affs.org.uk/ || Not a filesystem
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 11:22:12 -0000 MJ Ray wrote:
abower@thebowery.co.uk <abower@thebowery.co.uk> wrote:
I will be there this evening, does anyone want to borrow and of the library books?
Have the reviewers reviewed yet? If so, what happens next?
Having seen the corporate pricing of Safari, it's ridiculusly expensive. We've got 30+ RnD guys, systems and IT on the free trail and it's estimated based the prices that we've been given that it would cost the company a whopping $12,000+ per annum plus set-up fee. It's a good system, yes, but is it really worth the expense? Regards, Martyn -- Martyn Drake | Email : martyn-d@moving-picture.com Systems Administrator | Web : http://www.moving-picture.com The Moving Picture Company | Phone : +44 (0)20 7494 7853
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 12:29:48PM +0100, Martyn Drake wrote:
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 11:22:12 -0000 MJ Ray wrote:
abower@thebowery.co.uk <abower@thebowery.co.uk> wrote:
I will be there this evening, does anyone want to borrow and of the library books?
Have the reviewers reviewed yet? If so, what happens next?
Having seen the corporate pricing of Safari, it's ridiculusly expensive. We've got 30+ RnD guys, systems and IT on the free trail and it's estimated based the prices that we've been given that it would cost the company a whopping $12,000+ per annum plus set-up fee.
It's a good system, yes, but is it really worth the expense?
If you would be spending that much you would be better off setting up a company library, thats what happened to me in previous jobs. Then use Koha to keep a catalogue, ~£8000 should buy you most of the O'Reilly catalogue and some other nice books also! Although I suppose you will have to find $LOTS to pay for the bookshelves! Anyhow the reviews we are reffering to are the reviews of the paper books that O'reilly send us, so far we have had one. I have forwarded the review to O'Reilly and it will appear on the alug site at some point in the future... Adam -- jabberid = quinophex@jabber.earth.li AFFS || http://www.affs.org.uk/ || Not a filesystem
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:53:56 +0100 abower@thebowery.co.uk wrote:
If you would be spending that much you would be better off setting up a company library, thats what happened to me in previous jobs. Then use Koha to keep a catalogue, ~£8000 should buy you most of the O'Reilly catalogue and some other nice books also! Although I suppose you will have to find $LOTS to pay for the bookshelves!
Even the limited accounts (i.e. 5,10,20,30 slot) Safari accounts are pretty pricey. It's very hard to justify the costs. And besides which, the book I'm really after at the moment is the Exim 4 book which was going to be published by O'Reilly but didn't (their loss).
Anyhow the reviews we are reffering to are the reviews of the paper books that O'reilly send us, so far we have had one. I have forwarded the review to O'Reilly and it will appear on the alug site at some point in the future...
Gah! I can't read (oh the irony!). Sorry - didn't catch the earlier posts in this thread. And speaking of library things, I still owe Mr. Woodard copies of the SuSE 8.2 Professional DVDs and the Debian DVD. I will get around to do this over the weekend. Regards, Martyn -- Martyn Drake | Email : martyn-d@moving-picture.com Systems Administrator | Web : http://www.moving-picture.com The Moving Picture Company | Phone : +44 (0)20 7494 7853
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 02:02:31PM +0100, Martyn Drake wrote:
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:53:56 +0100 abower@thebowery.co.uk wrote:
If you would be spending that much you would be better off setting up a company library, thats what happened to me in previous jobs. Then use Koha to keep a catalogue, ~£8000 should buy you most of the O'Reilly catalogue and some other nice books also! Although I suppose you will have to find $LOTS to pay for the bookshelves!
Even the limited accounts (i.e. 5,10,20,30 slot) Safari accounts are pretty pricey. It's very hard to justify the costs. And besides which, the book I'm really after at the moment is the Exim 4 book which was going to be published by O'Reilly but didn't (their loss).
The Exim 4 book is very hug worthy, I got it about 2 days after they finally released it direct from the publishers. Although it is a bit of a shame I havn't had time to read it properly :( the other thing is that if you have the Exim 3 book it is quite similar except of course for coverage of the new bits in Exim 4 so if you already own the first book and don't need to do anything special with Exim 4 then you probably dont need the book. Adam -- jabberid = quinophex@jabber.earth.li AFFS || http://www.affs.org.uk/ || Not a filesystem
Major hassles at work, I'm afraid, so can't make it tonight. But definitely will be at Elmswell on Sunday. Keith --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.509 / Virus Database: 306 - Release Date: 12/08/2003
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Keith Watson wrote:
Major hassles at work, I'm afraid, so can't make it tonight.
But definitely will be at Elmswell on Sunday.
Keith ---
And as the people at the forum have noticed, I'm not there either. I've hurt my ankle in case anyone's interested. Haven't got a clue how I did it. Bloody bodies, why can't we all be floating balls of light? BenE --------------------------------- Love is all I bring, in me crass t-shirt 'n' ting
Have the reviewers reviewed yet? If so, what happens next?
I have one of the books but forgot to pack it - so it's not yet read or reviewed although not forgotten. Apologies. Syd Temperatures in Brittany have dropped to a mere 80F or so today - French nuclear power stations are still being hosed down with cold water though.
Is anyone able to help me set up postfix? I'm running under SuSE 8.2, I've been through the YAST configuration and made sure the daemon is running. If I try to send mail through the program it appears to accept it but nothing ever gets delivered, then when I run mailq I get lines like the following: -Queue ID- --Size-- ----Arrival Time---- -Sender/Recipient------- 0218C2CE03 524 Fri Aug 29 16:21:35 gt@pobox.com (temporary failure) info@audiokeeper.com It makes no difference where I send the mail from, i.e. the name of the sender, or to whom it's addressed. Does anyone here understand the meaning of (temporary failure) or have experience in using this MTA they'd be willing to share? The only user guide I can find is written in Spanish. -- GT
You need to go through the mail.conf file and set up the hostname for your system. TD On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 17:49, Graham Trott wrote:
Is anyone able to help me set up postfix? I'm running under SuSE 8.2, I've been through the YAST configuration and made sure the daemon is running. If I try to send mail through the program it appears to accept it but nothing ever gets delivered, then when I run mailq I get lines like the following:
-Queue ID- --Size-- ----Arrival Time---- -Sender/Recipient------- 0218C2CE03 524 Fri Aug 29 16:21:35 gt@pobox.com (temporary failure) info@audiokeeper.com
It makes no difference where I send the mail from, i.e. the name of the sender, or to whom it's addressed. Does anyone here understand the meaning of (temporary failure) or have experience in using this MTA they'd be willing to share? The only user guide I can find is written in Spanish.
-- GT
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Syd Hancock <syd@toufol.com> wrote:
Next Norwich evening meet on the second thursday of the month i.e. 14th August at 8.00pm in the Forum coffee bar.
Well, it happened! Brett, GT, Noodles, BJ, Kirsty, MJR, Shadowtlx, Ian Bell and ADAM all turned up and we grabbed a number of tables, scattered leaflets upon them, opened and closed laptops and palmtops and talked about quite a few things over the next couple of hours. We were short of the old name badges and a penguin, unlike last month's pair of penguins. I'll print some badges for Sunday if Keith has a PS, PDF or similar file available. I'm about to search archives for it, but a URL would always help. Things I remember happening/talking about: * Shadowtlx said that "su -s /bin/sh" didn't work for him with his mangled Linux-on-RiscOS (is that accurate?) installation, so we outlined how to do init=/bin/sh, then fsck /, mount -o remount,rw / and vi /etc/passwd to try to rescue it. Maybe we'll hear whether it worked... * A bit of the old MySQL vs PostgreSQL argument. I was saved this last week by being able to make a view in PGSQL. A buggy library that I didn't want to hack on just now wasn't checking for an "enabled" setting, so I made it look at a view instead. A view is something that looks like a table, but is formed by a query, more or less. CREATE VIEW newview AS SELECT * FROM sometable WHERE enabled = 't' * Still on databases, KNoda as a possible GUI for MySQL. http://apps.kde.com/uk/0/info/id/1071 * Bahjee, tofu and curry. * Roundabouts, turbochargers and fuel economy. * Brett actually got more than one pint before the beer ran out. What do other people remember? See you next on Sunday (or Saturday at the Debian BBQ). -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and possibly not of any group I know. http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ jabber://slef@jabber.at Creative copyleft computing services via http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ Thought: Edwin A Abbott wrote about trouble with Windows in 1884
MJ Ray <markj@cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
Things I remember happening/talking about:
Another thing was "how small can a full general-purpose GNU/Linux go?". To start, I throw Bonzai's 180Mb Debian-based system into the ring and let you all beat it down. http://developer.berlios.de/projects/bonzai/
MJ Ray <markj@cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
Syd Hancock <syd@toufol.com> wrote:
Next Norwich evening meet on the second thursday of the month i.e. 14th August at 8.00pm in the Forum coffee bar.
Well, it happened! Brett, GT, Noodles, BJ, Kirsty, MJR, Shadowtlx, Ian Bell and ADAM. [snip] Things I remember happening/talking about: * Shadowtlx said that "su -s /bin/sh" didn't work for him with his mangled Linux-on-RiscOS (is that accurate?) installation, so we outlined how to do init=/bin/sh, then fsck /, mount -o remount,rw / and vi /etc/passwd to try to rescue it. Maybe we'll hear whether it worked... Good news it worked, I then compiled a decss program but it said mount the dvd, which I cannot mount which why I want a decss program. The programs documentation seems to be saying that the VOB files are encrytped not the disc. Is this true, in which case the dvd drive probably has a region problem. The PC Pro coverdisc is our region but the ROM and video sides fail with ISO9660 and UDF filesystems. A PC format DVD works with ISO9660.
-- Tarquin Mills Bring back YS (Then you can ZIP to the Stars with YS, hurrah. Ed) http://www.planet14.sonow4u.co.uk/
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