(copied to list in case it doesn't get to you) Hi Martyn, I'm behind a router at work, but I can't see the alug.org.uk domain. anglian.lug.org.uk works fine. Can't use CVS or web from it. Alexis -- "All programmers are optimists" - Frederick P. Brooks, Jr. Failure- When your best just isn't good enough. "Don't anthropomorphize computers. They hate that"