I hope to have real silver copies of some official Debian CDs at Sunday's meeting, if they get here in time. They'll be 2.2r3, but there isn't *too* much difference from r4, so it should be a relative quick update (definitely less than an hour at modem speed). Suggested donation amount and numbers are as yet unconfirmed, but it would be a great way to support the Debian project with some much-needed funds. http://www.uk.debian.org/ -- MJR