I think I'm looking for some blog software (more to use for keeping tabs on my thoughts and as an aide memoire than for inviting comments) but I'd really like to be able to 'filter' the blog.
I.e. I'd like to be able to tag entries in the blog with tags such as 'boat', 'motorbike', etc. and then have the ability to view the blog as a 'boat' blog or a 'motorbike' blog showing only the boat or motorbike tagged pages.
One approach of course is simply to have separate blogs for each but it's also possible there will be overlapping tags and it would also be useful to see the whole blog at times.
Any ideas if there's anything out there that can do this? If one could actually set the 'current tag' for a session that would be ideal.
On 07/04/11 16:50, Chris G wrote:
I think I'm looking for some blog software (more to use for keeping tabs on my thoughts and as an aide memoire than for inviting comments) but I'd really like to be able to 'filter' the blog.
I.e. I'd like to be able to tag entries in the blog with tags such as 'boat', 'motorbike', etc. and then have the ability to view the blog as a 'boat' blog or a 'motorbike' blog showing only the boat or motorbike tagged pages.
One approach of course is simply to have separate blogs for each but it's also possible there will be overlapping tags and it would also be useful to see the whole blog at times.
Any ideas if there's anything out there that can do this? If one could actually set the 'current tag' for a session that would be ideal.
You can do that with Livejournal when it's not under DDoS attack.
On 7 April 2011 16:50, Chris G cl@isbd.net wrote:
I think I'm looking for some blog software (more to use for keeping tabs on my thoughts and as an aide memoire than for inviting comments) but I'd really like to be able to 'filter' the blog.
I.e. I'd like to be able to tag entries in the blog with tags such as 'boat', 'motorbike', etc. and then have the ability to view the blog as a 'boat' blog or a 'motorbike' blog showing only the boat or motorbike tagged pages.
My dad uses a little mini wiki for this kind of "thoughts" type thing.. Blog is normally chronological but your random thoughts jotted down don't necessarily follow any time-based pattern so it's counter-intuitive to record them in chronological order.
I can't remember the exact software he used but it makes a little text based wiki with different pages, ability to link between them with basic wiki formatting etc.
-Si
On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 10:51:05PM +0100, Simon Elliott wrote:
On 7 April 2011 16:50, Chris G cl@isbd.net wrote:
I think I'm looking for some blog software (more to use for keeping tabs on my thoughts and as an aide memoire than for inviting comments) but I'd really like to be able to 'filter' the blog.
I.e. I'd like to be able to tag entries in the blog with tags such as 'boat', 'motorbike', etc. and then have the ability to view the blog as a 'boat' blog or a 'motorbike' blog showing only the boat or motorbike tagged pages.
My dad uses a little mini wiki for this kind of "thoughts" type thing.. Blog is normally chronological but your random thoughts jotted down don't necessarily follow any time-based pattern so it's counter-intuitive to record them in chronological order.
I can't remember the exact software he used but it makes a little text based wiki with different pages, ability to link between them with basic wiki formatting etc.
Ah, but I do want some chronology. I already use DokuWiki for collecting information and ideas. I want to use the blog[like] application for recording things like servicing the 'bike and maintenance done on the boat.
At Thu, 7 Apr 2011 16:50:10 +0100, Chris G wrote:
I think I'm looking for some blog software (more to use for keeping tabs on my thoughts and as an aide memoire than for inviting comments) but I'd really like to be able to 'filter' the blog.
I.e. I'd like to be able to tag entries in the blog with tags such as 'boat', 'motorbike', etc. and then have the ability to view the blog as a 'boat' blog or a 'motorbike' blog showing only the boat or motorbike tagged pages.
I think you'd be hard pushed to find blogging software that *doesn't* support tagging and retrieval by tag.
ikiwiki is worth a look.
Best, Rihard
On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 08:41:23AM +0100, Richard Lewis wrote:
At Thu, 7 Apr 2011 16:50:10 +0100, Chris G wrote:
I think I'm looking for some blog software (more to use for keeping tabs on my thoughts and as an aide memoire than for inviting comments) but I'd really like to be able to 'filter' the blog.
I.e. I'd like to be able to tag entries in the blog with tags such as 'boat', 'motorbike', etc. and then have the ability to view the blog as a 'boat' blog or a 'motorbike' blog showing only the boat or motorbike tagged pages.
I think you'd be hard pushed to find blogging software that *doesn't* support tagging and retrieval by tag.
It's not just tagging and retrieval by tag that I want. I want to be able to see (for example) all the motorbike entries as a blog as if they were the entire blog. Ideally when in 'motobike blog' mode added entries would automatically be motorbike entries. I could switch to 'boat' mode (or other modes) and they'd look like standalone blogs too, but importantly I want to be able to see *all* the blog entries (boat, motorbike, others) together as a blog too.
ikiwiki is worth a look.
OK, thanks.
On 08 Apr 09:41, Chris G wrote:
On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 08:41:23AM +0100, Richard Lewis wrote:
At Thu, 7 Apr 2011 16:50:10 +0100, Chris G wrote:
I think I'm looking for some blog software (more to use for keeping tabs on my thoughts and as an aide memoire than for inviting comments) but I'd really like to be able to 'filter' the blog.
I.e. I'd like to be able to tag entries in the blog with tags such as 'boat', 'motorbike', etc. and then have the ability to view the blog as a 'boat' blog or a 'motorbike' blog showing only the boat or motorbike tagged pages.
I think you'd be hard pushed to find blogging software that *doesn't* support tagging and retrieval by tag.
It's not just tagging and retrieval by tag that I want. I want to be able to see (for example) all the motorbike entries as a blog as if they were the entire blog. Ideally when in 'motobike blog' mode added entries would automatically be motorbike entries. I could switch to 'boat' mode (or other modes) and they'd look like standalone blogs too, but importantly I want to be able to see *all* the blog entries (boat, motorbike, others) together as a blog too.
Most blog software that allows tagging, allows limiting to a tag. So it *would* look almost like a seperate blog. The other bit - automatic recognition of which tags to apply because of where you are, doesn't as far as I know exist.
Personally I use my own django based blogging tool and a set of categories, but then it mostly works how I want (one day I'll get round to finishing the code so that it actually does what I want).
Cheers,
On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 10:02:15AM +0100, Brett Parker wrote:
On 08 Apr 09:41, Chris G wrote:
On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 08:41:23AM +0100, Richard Lewis wrote:
At Thu, 7 Apr 2011 16:50:10 +0100, Chris G wrote:
I think I'm looking for some blog software (more to use for keeping tabs on my thoughts and as an aide memoire than for inviting comments) but I'd really like to be able to 'filter' the blog.
I.e. I'd like to be able to tag entries in the blog with tags such as 'boat', 'motorbike', etc. and then have the ability to view the blog as a 'boat' blog or a 'motorbike' blog showing only the boat or motorbike tagged pages.
I think you'd be hard pushed to find blogging software that *doesn't* support tagging and retrieval by tag.
It's not just tagging and retrieval by tag that I want. I want to be able to see (for example) all the motorbike entries as a blog as if they were the entire blog. Ideally when in 'motobike blog' mode added entries would automatically be motorbike entries. I could switch to 'boat' mode (or other modes) and they'd look like standalone blogs too, but importantly I want to be able to see *all* the blog entries (boat, motorbike, others) together as a blog too.
Most blog software that allows tagging, allows limiting to a tag. So it *would* look almost like a seperate blog. The other bit - automatic recognition of which tags to apply because of where you are, doesn't as far as I know exist.
Personally I use my own django based blogging tool and a set of categories, but then it mostly works how I want (one day I'll get round to finishing the code so that it actually does what I want).
Maybe I'll do similar, i.e. keep modifying the blog plugin in DokuWiki until it does what I want. :-)
It can already do most of what I want simply by splitting into sub-directories because if I 'blog' from the parent directory it will show all sub-directories as a combined blog. However it still has some minor issues with the way it sorts the entries. It looks as if it will be easier for me to modify this to do exactly what I want rather than search for something new.
On my Blog (which is admittedly Windows based) you can tag posts. Using these tags, you can then select or search posts of that theme. I thought this was a fairly universal option? -- ATB, Karl
On 7 April 2011 16:50, Chris G cl@isbd.net wrote:
I think I'm looking for some blog software (more to use for keeping tabs on my thoughts and as an aide memoire than for inviting comments) but I'd really like to be able to 'filter' the blog.
I.e. I'd like to be able to tag entries in the blog with tags such as 'boat', 'motorbike', etc. and then have the ability to view the blog as a 'boat' blog or a 'motorbike' blog showing only the boat or motorbike tagged pages.
One approach of course is simply to have separate blogs for each but it's also possible there will be overlapping tags and it would also be useful to see the whole blog at times.
Any ideas if there's anything out there that can do this? If one could actually set the 'current tag' for a session that would be ideal.
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On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 02:43:16PM +0100, Karl Foley wrote:
On 7 April 2011 16:50, Chris G cl@isbd.net wrote:
I think I'm looking for some blog software (more to use for keeping tabs on my thoughts and as an aide memoire than for inviting comments) but I'd really like to be able to 'filter' the blog.
I.e. I'd like to be able to tag entries in the blog with tags such as 'boat', 'motorbike', etc. and then have the ability to view the blog as a 'boat' blog or a 'motorbike' blog showing only the boat or motorbike tagged pages.
One approach of course is simply to have separate blogs for each but it's also possible there will be overlapping tags and it would also be useful to see the whole blog at times.
Any ideas if there's anything out there that can do this? If one could actually set the 'current tag' for a session that would be ideal.
On my Blog (which is admittedly Windows based) you can tag posts. Using these tags, you can then select or search posts of that theme. I thought this was a fairly universal option?
You have a Windows *server*?
Anyway I don't want just to select and search posts, I want a 'boat' blog, a 'bike' blog and a 'general' blog which are all actually the same data with filters applied.
I've now actually got pretty close to what I want with DokuWiki and its blog plugin. I just have a directory hierarchy as follows:-
blog blog/bike blog/boat
The blog plugin is told where its 'root' is and presents all entries below that root as the blog. So I tell it 'blog', or 'blog/bike' or 'blog/boat' according to what I want. I need to make sure my posts to the blog get put in the right place (another plugin helps on that front) and I have near enough what I want.
At Sun, 10 Apr 2011 16:19:37 +0100, Chris G wrote:
Anyway I don't want just to select and search posts, I want a 'boat' blog, a 'bike' blog and a 'general' blog which are all actually the same data with filters applied.
Sorry to sound argumentative, but I still fail to see how tagging and selecting is any different to what you're describing.
I've now actually got pretty close to what I want with DokuWiki and its blog plugin. I just have a directory hierarchy as follows:-
blog blog/bike blog/boat
What I mean is, how is the above significantly different to:
blog blog?tag=boke blog?tag=boat
? This is also significantly more flexible.
I need to make sure my posts to the blog get put in the right place (another plugin helps on that front) and I have near enough what I want.
A difficulty which may well be solved by tagging.
Also, because I haven't said it in this thread yet, I do this kind of stuff with org-mode http://orgmode.org/. All hail org-mode.
Best, Richard
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 05:36:43PM +0100, Richard Lewis wrote:
At Sun, 10 Apr 2011 16:19:37 +0100, Chris G wrote:
Anyway I don't want just to select and search posts, I want a 'boat' blog, a 'bike' blog and a 'general' blog which are all actually the same data with filters applied.
Sorry to sound argumentative, but I still fail to see how tagging and selecting is any different to what you're describing.
I want each blog to be effectively 'transparent' so I can sit in what feels like the 'boat blog', add entries which are automatically part of the 'boat blog' and view just the 'boat blog'.
I've now actually got pretty close to what I want with DokuWiki and its blog plugin. I just have a directory hierarchy as follows:-
blog blog/bike blog/boatWhat I mean is, how is the above significantly different to:
blog blog?tag=boke blog?tag=boat
Er, what does the above actually mean, are you entering it as a URL or what?
? This is also significantly more flexible.
I need to make sure my posts to the blog get put in the right place (another plugin helps on that front) and I have near enough what I want.
A difficulty which may well be solved by tagging.
Only if I enter the tag on every blog entry surely, that's one of the things I'm trying to avoid having to do.
Also, because I haven't said it in this thread yet, I do this kind of stuff with org-mode http://orgmode.org/. All hail org-mode.
Yes, my blog files are plain text too and I can edit them directly if/when I want.
At Mon, 11 Apr 2011 21:42:59 +0100, Chris G wrote:
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 05:36:43PM +0100, Richard Lewis wrote:
blog blog?tag=boke blog?tag=boatEr, what does the above actually mean, are you entering it as a URL or what?
It's an genericised retrieval/addressing mechanism which happens to look at lot like an HTTP URL with a query string. What I'm getting at is that your system should do the work of collating entries in some consistent, flexible way.
I need to make sure my posts to the blog get put in the right place (another plugin helps on that front) and I have near enough what I want.
A difficulty which may well be solved by tagging.
Only if I enter the tag on every blog entry surely, that's one of the things I'm trying to avoid having to do.
Hmm. Tagging each entry actually sounds a lot easier to me. Then storage location becomes irrelevant.
Also, because I haven't said it in this thread yet, I do this kind of stuff with org-mode http://orgmode.org/. All hail org-mode.
Yes, my blog files are plain text too and I can edit them directly if/when I want.
Ah, but can yours include a link to an email generated with four keypresses and activated with two? And can yours turn entries into todo notes (two key presses) and arrange them in daily schedule (two keypresses)? ;-) org-mode is teh winner.
Best, Richard
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:57:34PM +0100, Richard Lewis wrote:
At Mon, 11 Apr 2011 21:42:59 +0100, Chris G wrote:
I need to make sure my posts to the blog get put in the right place (another plugin helps on that front) and I have near enough what I want.
A difficulty which may well be solved by tagging.
Only if I enter the tag on every blog entry surely, that's one of the things I'm trying to avoid having to do.
Hmm. Tagging each entry actually sounds a lot easier to me. Then storage location becomes irrelevant.
I suppose it depends on the way the user (you or me) thinks about things. If I'm blogging away about my boat I'm guaranteed to forget to add a tag or anything, I just want a bookmark that says "Boat Blog", click on it and start writing. It also means that (if it's an open sort of blog - it's actually a wiki) other family members can have a bookmark too and fire away without any need to know technical things like "you have to add a 'boat' tag".
Also, because I haven't said it in this thread yet, I do this kind of stuff with org-mode http://orgmode.org/. All hail org-mode.
Yes, my blog files are plain text too and I can edit them directly if/when I want.
Ah, but can yours include a link to an email generated with four keypresses and activated with two? And can yours turn entries into todo notes (two key presses) and arrange them in daily schedule (two keypresses)? ;-) org-mode is teh winner.
I don't want to do those things! :-)
Although I can actually have links to E-Mails in my wiki, I wrote the plugin to do it myself. In my case it's more for 'historical' purposes than todo lists and such. My E-Mail links are 'folded' such that if you click on them the E-Mail appears as part of the page you're viewing.
I also want to be able to link in to a database and output the contents thereof in various formats as part of my wiki/blog.
... horses for courses! :-)
On 10 April 2011 16:19, Chris G cl@isbd.net wrote: [Snip]
You have a Windows *server*?
[Snip]
Gasp, yes, a Windows server. The horrors of being a Microsoft Partner in an earlier existance. It's there hostorically and only runs my blog and some of my sons game servers now. Having migrated everything onto cloud apps, I just haven't got round to doing so for my Community Server yet.. I've found a plug-in that *should* let me migrate, but haven't had time to trouble shoot why it doesn't.
At Sun, 10 Apr 2011 16:19:37 +0100, Chris G wrote:
What I mean is, how is the above significantly different to:
blog blog?tag=boke blog?tag=boat
? This is also significantly more flexible.
My blog will only allow me to filter on one tag, though I can post under multiple. I guess there may be others which allow you to filter by multiple tags.
-- ATB, Karl
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 09:13:21PM +0100, Karl Foley wrote:
On 10 April 2011 16:19, Chris G cl@isbd.net wrote: [Snip]
You have a Windows *server*?
[Snip]
Gasp, yes, a Windows server. The horrors of being a Microsoft Partner in an earlier existance. It's there hostorically and only runs my blog and some of my sons game servers now. Having migrated everything onto cloud apps, I just haven't got round to doing so for my Community Server yet.. I've found a plug-in that *should* let me migrate, but haven't had time to trouble shoot why it doesn't.
At Sun, 10 Apr 2011 16:19:37 +0100, Chris G wrote:
No I didn't!!!
What I mean is, how is the above significantly different to:
blog blog?tag=boke blog?tag=boat
? This is also significantly more flexible.
My blog will only allow me to filter on one tag, though I can post under multiple. I guess there may be others which allow you to filter by multiple tags.
-- ATB, Karl
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