I feel the need for some new hardware. I am thinking my el cheapo 8.4GB HDD could do with replacing, so I am thinking of a new Seagate HDD. Now, how much performance benifit will I get from a 7200rpm drive over a 5400RPM drive? Will I need to cool it more?
Also does anyone know what 5.1 channel sound cards are supported by linux?
Thanks
D
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, David Freeman wrote:
I feel the need for some new hardware. I am thinking my el cheapo 8.4GB HDD could do with replacing, so I am thinking of a new Seagate HDD. Now, how much performance benifit will I get from a 7200rpm drive over a 5400RPM drive? Will I need to cool it more?
What speed ide bus does your M/B do? I would reccomend getting a 7200rpm ata100 if you can afford it, and also if you have that little bit extra get an IBM disk. The IBM disks are very fast and they are not that much extra than other brands. Also the warranty swapout seems far better than most other brands.
In all reality you may or may not see a real speed increase depending on what you are doing and how much RAM you have and how often you write things out to swap etc. About cooling you shouldn't need to cool any modern hard-disk, that is if your case isn't filled with tons of other kit like a couple gigs memory, a fast gfx card, all the pci slots filled with hot cards etc. and fully loading the ide bus with another 3 hdds. If you do have all that kit I would suggest buying an 8cm case fan and sticking it in your machine.
Adam
--- Adam Bower abower@thebowery.co.uk wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, David Freeman wrote:
I feel the need for some new hardware. I am thinking my el cheapo
8.4GB
HDD could do with replacing, so I am thinking of a new Seagate HDD. Now, how much performance benifit will I get from a 7200rpm drive
over
a 5400RPM drive? Will I need to cool it more?
What speed ide bus does your M/B do? I would reccomend getting a 7200rpm ata100 if you can afford it, and also if you have that little bit extra get an IBM disk. The IBM disks are very fast and they are not that much extra than other brands. Also the warranty swapout seems far better than most other brands.
We have had 3 IBM HDD fail in the last couple of months, this is to higher a risk. I was going to get a Seagate. as I have never had any porblems with Seagate.
In all reality you may or may not see a real speed increase depending on what you are doing and how much RAM you have and how often you write things out to swap etc. About cooling you shouldn't need to cool any modern hard-disk, that is if your case isn't filled with tons of other kit like a couple gigs memory, a fast gfx card, all the pci slots filled with hot cards etc. and fully loading the ide bus with another 3 hdds. If you do have all that kit I would suggest buying an 8cm case fan and sticking it in your machine.
All slots are full ATM but I only have a cool GFX card and the other slots aren't very hot (network, tv, sound etc...) so I should be ok. I may add another fan, although I am thinking about water cooling ATM!
Thanks
D
Adam
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, David Freeman wrote:
We have had 3 IBM HDD fail in the last couple of months, this is to higher a risk. I was going to get a Seagate. as I have never had any porblems with Seagate.
To be 100% honest I have seen almost the same failure rates with all types of hard-disks in recent years. What really gets me is modern computer hardware seems to burn out after about 3 years nowadays. I still have my old 48k spectrum that works fine and my Amiga 4000 workstation (with 80Mb IBM hdd!) which is still also ok. contrast that with the amount of modern machines I have had problems with and it is most annoying, I remember the days............
Adam
--- Adam Bower abower@thebowery.co.uk wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, David Freeman wrote:
We have had 3 IBM HDD fail in the last couple of months, this is to higher a risk. I was going to get a Seagate. as I have never had
any
porblems with Seagate.
To be 100% honest I have seen almost the same failure rates with all types of hard-disks in recent years. What really gets me is modern computer hardware seems to burn out after about 3 years nowadays. I still have my old 48k spectrum that works fine and my Amiga 4000 workstation (with 80Mb IBM hdd!) which is still also ok. contrast that with the amount of modern machines I have had problems with and it is most annoying, I remember the days............
MyBBC still works as does my 386's. Bear in mind that these days we are pushing the laws of physics more and more to the limit that things will fail more. Perhaps I should buy a backup device at the same time.
Thanks
D
Adam
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, David Freeman wrote:
MyBBC still works as does my 386's. Bear in mind that these days we are pushing the laws of physics more and more to the limit that things will fail more. Perhaps I should buy a backup device at the same time.
It shouldn't be down to the laws of physics though, I have more of a complaint on overall quality seems to be declining and it is difficult to buy anything that is going to last more than a few years if it is based on intel hardware. I have noticed that out of all the machines at Zeus only the intel ones ever had hardware problems, all of the Sparcs, Alphas, HP9000s etc were perfectly OK.
Do you not already own a CD-R drive? this should be adequate for most peoples backup needs. I must get around to writing a script that will back things up though as I am too lazy to run them manually!
Adam
--- Adam Bower abower@thebowery.co.uk wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, David Freeman wrote:
MyBBC still works as does my 386's. Bear in mind that these days we
are
pushing the laws of physics more and more to the limit that things
will
fail more. Perhaps I should buy a backup device at the same time.
It shouldn't be down to the laws of physics though, I have more of a complaint on overall quality seems to be declining and it is difficult to buy anything that is going to last more than a few years if it is based on intel hardware. I have noticed that out of all the machines at Zeus only the intel ones ever had hardware problems, all of the Sparcs, Alphas, HP9000s etc were perfectly OK.
I would also agree we have a lot of sparc kit here which works wonderfully, you missed Apple off of the cool hardware list btw :o)
I am tempted just to get the 40GB IBM from scan and be done with it.
I al going to partition it so linux has (across a couple of partitions) 30GB, then give openBSD 5GB and leave the rest unpartitioned until StegFS comes out for 2.4 kernel.
Do you not already own a CD-R drive? this should be adequate for most peoples backup needs. I must get around to writing a script that will back things up though as I am too lazy to run them manually!
Nope, not yet, on the list of to gets, need it to back things up! I'm looking for a sub �100 burn proof CDRW drive. and I will probably get a 50CD spindle and just put a tar of /home/freemadi with changes only. with a total backup one a week or month. I will also need to somehow back up some other larger directories, but I will work that one out nearer the time.
Thanks
D
Thanks
D
Adam
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, David Freeman wrote:
I am tempted just to get the 40GB IBM from scan and be done with it.
I just got one of these drives, very fast and quiet.
Nope, not yet, on the list of to gets, need it to back things up! I'm looking for a sub £100 burn proof CDRW drive. and I will probably get a 50CD spindle and just put a tar of /home/freemadi with changes only.
Look here for both http://www.business-ecommercesoftware.co.uk/business/svpcomm/index.html They have Traxdata Burnproof 32x read, 12x write, 10x re-write for only 70quid! I presume this is likely to be ex-vat though and without shipping but still very cheap, the drives are OEM so you don't even get cables and screws but at least you aren't paying another 30quid for crappy doze software. I have used these guys for blank cd-rs in the past and can rate them highly.
HTH Adam
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