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Re: [Alug] Grub Glorious Grub!
by MJ Ray 04 Aug '01

04 Aug '01

oms101(a)freeuk.com writes: > This is partly to say that I am testing postfix mailserver and am > playing fith sender_canonical option to get it to work with alug and > partly to ask the following which did not get through You probably should have sent it to the list, not me personally. As I said, if you blow your Linux partition away, you'll blow most of LILO away too. -- MJR

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expect the unexpected
by oms101＠freeuk.com 02 Aug '01

02 Aug '01

expect the unexpected! I do hate it when people say that, because .... But since I am not a total pedant and only have 9/10 for getting side tracked I am posting to ask if anyone knows why my expect script does not work. It apears to log on ok to my remote linux box, but fails to execute anything. I am planning to launch grip, xterm's and the like as I dont have enough monitors, keyboards, space for them or arms as long as my network cabels. Anyway the scripts is like this ---------------CUT here-------------------------------- #!/usr/bin/expect -- # # In this program, we telnet to a host, execute two commands, # and leave. # prevent an untimely end. If you have a command that takes a # time, adjust this set timeout 5000 # We start a telnet session............................. spawn telnet 192.168.0.97 # A telnet session begins with a login prompt, so we 'expect' # one here, and send the username in response. # The \r represents a carriage return. Everytime you would press # <Enter> # interactively, send a \r. expect "login: " send "oms101\r" # We then send the password, note thats not my password expect "assword: " send "mylittlelinuxbox\r" send "xterm &\r" # We know in advance what our command prompt is, and we # 'expect' it accordingly. If we get it, we send the # 'mkdir test' and press enter (\r) expect " >" send "mkdir test\r" exit ---------------CUT here-------------------------------- maybe it is time to learn python! anyway some background here is a screen scrape from the execution of the script ---------------CUT here-------------------------------- >fred_grip spawn telnet 192.168.0.97 Trying 192.168.0.97... Connected to 192.168.0.97. Escape character is '^]'. Welcome to SuSE Linux 7.0 (i386) - Kernel 2.2.16 (2). ford login: oms101 Password: Last login: Wed Mar 28 10:00:24 from charly.local Have a lot of fun... oms101@ford:~ > > ---------------CUT here-------------------------------- and here is what happens when I telnet in and ls the root directory unfortunately no sign of my new test directory, whats going on? ---------------CUT here-------------------------------- oms101@ford:~ > ls mp3 nsmail wav oms101@ford:~ > ---------------CUT here-------------------------------- Chears Owen Date: 30-Jul-01 Time: 19:47:52

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Re: Tim Talk
by brodders＠cwcom.net 31 Jul '01

31 Jul '01

Hi... Seen nothing about this talk; walked around the Restaurant & can see no notices. Be nice to go so - where? Date & Time? - and how do you get info on talks etc? Nothing put about this at our PP's either. Thx Steve BTexact BT Labs Adastral Park

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IRC Nick names
by David Freeman 31 Jul '01

31 Jul '01

I would just like to remind members that it is incredibly rude to take the Nick of another Member. I cannot emphasis enough how offensive this and if it is done again action will be taken. Thanks D - Akula, Flamebait, Tux, Carpel. ===== -------------------- "We all know Linux is great... it does infinite loops in 5 seconds." Linus Torvalds __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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Tim talk
by David Freeman 31 Jul '01

31 Jul '01

Is there anyone on the list planning on attending the talk by Tim O'reilly at BT labs next wednesday? thanks D ===== -------------------- "We all know Linux is great... it does infinite loops in 5 seconds." Linus Torvalds __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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password stuff
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 30 Jul '01

30 Jul '01

Hi all: I'm starting to look at various permission options. 1./ In order to be able to shut down as user other than root, I created a file /etc/shutdown.allow as per man shutdown help file. I then entered the users jenny and root. su back to jenny and try "shutdown -a now" but still get the message "shutdown: command not found". 2./ I want to make my linux backup files more foolproof by backing up onto a spare directory on windows box using smbmount. But if I write a small script to do this, I'm going to have to include my password in the script. The best I can find written about doing this anywhere just says that if you have to include a password in a text file, make sure there are no read permissions for users. But would you say it is dodgy to write stuff with passwords at all? How else would you get round this? Thanks! Jen

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Re: [Alug] password stuff
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 30 Jul '01

30 Jul '01

David Freeman wrote: >Depends what else you use the password for. It's my user password, the one that allows me to use samba in the first place. I wondered if it was possible to make a dummy user for no other purpose than making the backup over a samba mount. I just wanted to set up a system that is secure in the interests of good working practice. >If you put it in the file and just make it so it has > >---x------ then you are away. How do you mean? How can I just make it this? >Alternatively, scan.co.uk sell CDRW drives from 65, get one and use >for backup. Hollow laughter at the thought of either having my own money to part with or persuading my boss to do so...... The PATH= blah blah line in bashrc works a treat, thanks. I'll study root's bashrc file and try to understand. Many thanks, Jenny.

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 30 Jul '01

30 Jul '01

This is the automated ALUG irc meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an irc meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.openprojects.net in the #alug channel, you can take a look at www.openprojects.net to get more info on the openprojects network. Popular irc clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and ircII on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.bitchx.com http://www.xchat.org http://freshmeat.net http://www.epicsol.org/ (for Brett!) Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Access
by David Freeman 28 Jul '01

28 Jul '01

In a deep and meaninful conversation with a list member whom I work with we were discussing the future of computer operating systems. One of the feature that it was decided on would be required to really boost *NIX OS's was on from NT (and Netware) which is file access lists. Does any one know of a way of implementing a per USER based access lists for files on *NIX. i.e. file foo.bar can be read by fred and alice, bob has write and read access and Eve has no access. As far as I am aware there is know way of doing this easily Thanks D ===== -------------------- "We all know Linux is great... it does infinite loops in 5 seconds." Linus Torvalds __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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National Sysadmin day
by David Freeman 27 Jul '01

27 Jul '01

Its national sysadmin day today. the BBC has an article on it with this fantastic quote " I know many of you might have a low opinion of "techies". (Let me just point out here that the image you might have of system administrators staying up all night, surrounded by pizza boxes, old Coke cans, playing Quake is NOT right. That's developers you're thinking of.) " http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1460000/1460166.stm Thanks D ===== -------------------- "We all know Linux is great... it does infinite loops in 5 seconds." Linus Torvalds __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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