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Re: [Alug] Announce ALUG 2001.5
by MJ Ray 16 Sep '01

16 Sep '01

Adam Bower <abower(a)thebowery.co.uk> writes: > I did promise to do a talk on the Debian package management systems apt > and dselect, and the differences between stable, testing and unstable of > Debian. I will also try and talk about the Debian policy of free and > Non-free although most of it will be word for word from the Faq. OK, we have a slate of talks suggested: 1. John Woodard -- "Why I can't install Debian" 2. Adam Bower -- "Debian Package Management" 3. MJ Ray -- "Mixing Debian Stable with Latest" How about it?

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About ntlworld in Norwich area.. coming soonish
by brodders＠cwcom.net 01 Sep '01

01 Sep '01

Re a thread weeks ago about Cable & Wireless customers in Norwich finally getting ntlworld acces... this was in my mailbox today: Dear Sir, Some time ago you registered for our internet service ntlworld and we thank you for your patience. During this time, weve been working to upgrade our network to deliver the service in your area and were delighted to inform you that well soon be able to give you ntlworld. ntlworld will be provided to replace your current internet service (please see below for details). ntlworld the free unmetered internet service from ntl offers you five email addresses, webmail, webdiary, 10MB of web space, ten content channels and the ntl web directory (your easy reference to more than a million websites). On top of that, extensive on-line help will be available to you. Theres also a 24 hour Technical Support Line if you need to call us (calls are charged at £1 per minute). To receive ntlworld you dont need to do a thing. Within the next few weeks we will send you an email telling you when you can expect to receive your installation CD. You dont need to contact us, as we have your details and we have no further information about delivery dates at present. Upon receipt of the CD, you must install it before 31st October 2001. Important changes to your current internet service Following our acquisition of the retail assets of Cable & Wireless Communications Services Ltd, Cable and Wireless agreed to continue to manage your current internet service on our behalf until the 30th November 2001. As this agreement is coming to an end, we regret to inform you that your current internet service will not be available after the 30th November 2001. However by this date, youll be able to access ntlworld, which we hope will minimise any inconvenience this may cause. If you decide not to take up our offer to receive ntlworld, you will need to make alternative arrangements for your internet service from the 30th November 2001. Tariff changes for Connect customers If you are a Connect customer and decide to take up this ntlworld offer, you will automatically be migrated to the standard ntl call plan tariff*. This tariff offers a simple 3-2-1 pricing structure for local and national calls: 3p a minute weekdays, 2p a minute weekday evenings and 1p a minute at weekends wherever you call in the UK. This gives you: National calls at local rates, allowing you to call all around the country for the same price as calling next door. Unlimited Free offpeak Talktime** to other ntl cable telephone customers in your local call area. Access to an International Call Plan*** option with low international rates, such as 5p a minute to Australia, New Zealand, USA, Canada and many more. All calls have a 4.9p connection charge. Once again, thank you for you patience, and we hope you will take full advantage of this opportunity to enjoy the benefits of ntlworld. Yours sincerely, Jane Lockyer Head of Customer Relationship Management Ref: L018 *This migration is as a result of standardising our network following our acquisition of the retail assets of Cable & Wireless Communications Services Ltd. Whether you decide to take up the ntlworld internet offer or not, your telephone tariff will change with effect from 30th November 2001. A further communication to Connect customers will follow prior to this date. The 3-2-1 tariff applies to local, regional and national calls only including all calls from Northern Ireland to the Republic of Ireland. Separate tariffs apply to other calls including non geographic calls. All calls are subject to a 4.9p connection charge. **Free Talktime applies to calls from your ntl residential telephone to friends and family who are also ntl residential telephone customers and live in the local call area, from 6pm to 8am during the week and all weekend. All calls are subject to a 4.9p connection charge. Excludes calls to access Internet service providers. For details of local call areas please call Customer Services. ***International Call Plan subscription charge of £2 per month applies. Terms and conditions apply: http://www.ntlworld.com/legals/user-policy.htm All services are subject to contract and availability in your area. ntlworld is only available to residential customers who are 18 or over. Calls to ntl call centres may be monitored for training purposes. Information is correct at time of going to print 08.01. ntl Group Limited Registered Office: ntl House Bartley Wood Business Park Hook Hampshire RG27 9UP Registered in England and Wales No.2591237

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Re: [Alug] diald
by MJ Ray 30 Aug '01

30 Aug '01

Raphael Mankin <raph(a)panache.demon.co.uk> writes: > I had no trouble with diald. The advantage of using it, over cron, > is that the itnerface appears to be there at all times, even if it > is not active. Using cron to change your filter on ppp0 (which is there all the time pppd is running) has the same effect.

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Crying Wolf
by Earl Brannigan 30 Aug '01

30 Aug '01

Hi John > Subject: [Alug] Crying Wolf > I would be grateful however if > someone can hazard a guess at why the programmes on my first hard > drive seem to be either self destructing or slowly dieing, a bit at a > time? A stab in the dark : I had a similar problem once where I had 64Mb of memory installed and Linux 'thought' I had 128 Mb installed. View /etc/lilo.conf and check for : append = "mem=XXX" where XXX is a value representing how much memory is installed, eg. if you have 128MB of memory the line should read : append = "mem=128M" if it reads more than you have then you have a problem anyway, regardless of whether this is the cause of this particular problem (As Linus Torvalds puts it "Bad things will happen"). The Linux Kernel addresses up to 64Mb of memory by default so up to that amount you should be safe (though I do remember reading somewhere that its always safer to specify exactly how much even if less than 64Mb). If you have >64Mb installed but there is no line in lilo.conf you will only address the 1st 64Mb. So you would need to add a line to address the full memory : Here is a dump from mine : ---------snip----------- boot = /dev/hda timeout = 50 linear prompt default = linux vga = normal read-only map=/boot/map install=/boot/boot.b image = /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.19.0 label = linux append = "mem=128M" root = /dev/hda1 ---------snip----------- The " append = " bit is merely passing the value as a parameter to the kernel at boot time. Hope this helps anyway, will continue to rack brains for other possible causes... Regards Earl

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Re: [Alug] diald
by MJ Ray 30 Aug '01

30 Aug '01

Raphael Mankin <raph(a)panache.demon.co.uk> writes: > diald lets you control *when* connections are made. It also provides som > filtering to prevent the connection from being raised for various classes of > traffic. If you replace 'anyreason' by 'little reason', however, I agree with > you. I think all the filtering and timing can be controlled by cron, connection scripts and ipchains/iptables with pppd. It's not such a one-stop-shop, but it is more widely used and stabler, in my experience. I just remember diald being hell to get working. I'm not sure it ever did work correctly for me. Not used it again since, so maybe they've updated it.

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Crying Wolf
by John Seago 29 Aug '01

29 Aug '01

Please ignore last plea for help, I ran the install disk in rescue mode, and while I have no idea what I was doing I managed to get it to work again. This is either very good luck, or very good work on the part of the original programmers. I would be grateful however if someone can hazard a guess at why the programmes on my first hard drive seem to be either self destructing or slowly dieing, a bit at a time? John

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Further developments/failures
by John Seago 29 Aug '01

29 Aug '01

Matters seem to go from bad to worse, having restarted I find that the linux, (Mandrake 8), on disk one has now lost its < file:/usr/share/applink-mdk/XXXXXXXX > the effect is that all thelaunch icons on the panel are now inactive, while those on the desktop still work. Can I as someone who has yet to be able to work the command line mend it, or would it be easier to re-install? john Seago

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Re: [Alug] diald
by MJ Ray 29 Aug '01

29 Aug '01

Danny Thorp <danny(a)thorp.fsworld.co.uk> writes: > Any ideas? Have you tried pppconfig, like the good book says? You might also find pppd's persist option some use. I don't think there's any reason for diald any more.

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Re Screen resolution problems
by John Seago 29 Aug '01

29 Aug '01

On Turning on my computer I found that the resolution problem had solved itself, (albeit not very satisfactorily ). Both sets of Linux are now displaying perfectly, as are their start-up processes. Windows however has dissapeared, it's partition is still there but it is empty! I would very much like to know what I did, in order to avoid doing it again. In case you're wondering why two lots of the same thing, I knew how to get Mandrake 8 to install, and not being sure how to install on my second disk I started with Mandrake 8, I have Red Hat, Progeny, Debian and Slackware as more interesting/exciting projects to install. (They also appear to be wellbeyond my level of competence!). John Seago

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diald
by Danny Thorp 29 Aug '01

29 Aug '01

hello all: I have finally got round to trying debian on an old p120 for evaluation. Results so far are v.good with the exception of diald, which refuses to connect. Accounts are configured as on my Suse machine so settings should be correct. using other methods is no good either, Gppp will not establish session pppd "dies unexpectedly" Wvdial will not allow me access to the modem, permissions are set to 'no auth' and I believe that anyone should be able to initiate a tcp/ppp connection. but no. Any ideas? Ta Danny

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