August 2001 - main

The web site
by markj＠cloaked.freeserve.co.uk 17 Aug '01

17 Aug '01

OK, I'm going to give the web site a bit of a quick kick up the arse this weekend, so other CVS users beware and make sure you do a "cvs update" before editing anything. Everyone can help! I'd like any bright ideas about what you want to see on the site, please. The front page will finally become less "content-free", so don't suggest that, but do suggest what you want to see on it. Also, I'd like anyone's explanations of what "Linux is..." and "ALUG is...", please. The more the merrier! Finally, if anyone wants to help directly, drop me an email and I'll tell you how to get started with CVS and XML as soon as this update is over. It's so simple, even David Freeman should be able to do it! ;-) PS David - there is a dormant Kent LUG for you to restart, you know?

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Friendly Offer ?
by Martyn Ashworth 17 Aug '01

17 Aug '01

All, I have got a copy of Kylix (Open Source) that I will gladly burn onto a CD for anyone interested (or who do not have the bandwidth to download 28Mb). All you then have to do is register to play with an awesome RAD tool for Linux. Sys Requirements: RedHat >= 6.2 Mandrake >= 7.2 SuSE >= 7.0 175Mb Free HD Space. Just e-mail me the postal address (mailto:martyn.ashworth@eag.uk.com) and i can get it sent out in the post tonight. Martyn

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Contract work...
by Simon Parkes 17 Aug '01

17 Aug '01

Hi peeps... I may have some short term contract work soon, if anyone is interested could they please mail-me off-line at simon.parkes(a)worldspan.com for a better description.. Simon

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Cost of RHCE
by Martyn Ashworth 17 Aug '01

17 Aug '01

Oops, scrap the last message it cost ?2k not 4. Martyn

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RE: [Alug] New Subscriber Introductions
by Martyn Ashworth 17 Aug '01

17 Aug '01

> OK out of curriosity as its a sys admin qualification how much did it cost to > get the peace of paper? As I have had some bad luck with job hunting and things > are getting very tight with the moneys It was a one week "intensive" course followed by an exam (which was graciously included for the modest sum of around ?4k). I would look into alternatives as I do honestly believe that it doesn't touch the core of linux but just the RedHat packages/additions that they bundle. Martyn

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Re: [Alug] New Subscriber Introductions
by MJ Ray 17 Aug '01

17 Aug '01

"Martyn Ashworth" <martyn.ashworth(a)eag.uk.com> writes: > Well, I found that the RHCE examination was not a good test of any persons > abilities with Linux as a whole. I feel that I passed without knowing any > real amount about my beloved OS. Do we have anyone who's either studying for or has passed the LPI <URL:http://www.lpi.org/> exams and can say if *they* are a good qualification?

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RE: [Alug] New Subscriber Introductions
by Martyn Ashworth 17 Aug '01

17 Aug '01

> I'm being mean here. at least you're honest! >> "an operating system which still baffles me" > [...] >> RedHat Certified Engineer (some would say just remove the word RedHat!) >Hmmmmmmz. Well, I found that the RHCE examination was not a good test of any persons abilities with Linux as a whole. I feel that I passed without knowing any real amount about my beloved OS. I certainly know more through reading HOWTO's and man pages than I ever learned through my time down in Guildford. Still I hope I make up in energy and commitment all that I lose through ignorance and inability. P.S. - Thanks for the welcome MJ. Martyn

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Re: [Alug] Fw: [Eurorights] FC: California appeals court rules against DeCSS defendant (fwd)
by David Freeman 17 Aug '01

17 Aug '01

On Thu, 16 Aug 2001 19:07:35 +0100 "John Woodard" wrote: > David Freeman wrote: > > > Seriously someone who isn't voted in purely on there personality. > > If they are voted in because of their personality how come 95% of all > MPs/MEPs have had a personality bypass? :-) People don't vote for a particular candidate they vote for a party and the personalities of that party, i.e. Hague or Blair? Thanks D > Cheers, > BJ -- "Your house sounds like a fire hazard" Peter Clarke

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Re: [Alug] Fw: [Eurorights] FC: California appeals court rules against DeCSS defendant (fwd)
by David Freeman 16 Aug '01

16 Aug '01

On Thu, 16 Aug 2001 10:05:21 +0100 "Ashley T. Howes" wrote: > > > >> This also seems to be related to the general problem of the > >> introduction of > >> more complex technology into society, which is governed by people who > >> don't > >> understand it. Unless something is done, this is only going to > get worse. > > > >The problem is people are apathetic, stupid, gullable and down right > >incompetent. > > Perhaps, or may be they have not been educated about the full implications > of their rulings. I expect they only checked with business on the > advantages/disadvantages of this ruling, and they of course are concerned > 100% with protecting their intellectural copyrights, etc Of course they did why the hell would they consult with general public? The public are a problem, not useful. > >the 3 B's works everytime, add some FUD to the Bull shit and > >your onto a winner, the problem is the goverment is currupt and needs > >replacing, Quite how we can do so will prove difficult, which comes back > >to the qualities of people above. > > I'm curious, who would you like the government to be replaced by? Me! No one understands my needs more than me! Seriously someone who isn't voted in purely on there personality. > > > >But step one is join the Euro crimes mailing list. Step 2 is to join > the EFF. > > > > I'll look into these. Thanks. Good. Thanks D > Ashley > > > > > Dr. Ashley T. Howes PhD www.ashleyhowes.com > Programmer > > "When he sees the dream he seeks, he will sleep" > > > > > _______________________________________________ > alug, the Anglian Linux User Group list > Send list replies to alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > http://www.anglian.lug.org.uk/ http://rabbit.stu.uea.ac.uk/cgi-bin/listinfo/alug > See the website for instructions on digest or unsub! -- "Your house sounds like a fire hazard" Peter Clarke

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Re: [Alug] Fw: [Eurorights] FC: California appeals court rules against DeCSS defendant (fwd)
by David Freeman 16 Aug '01

16 Aug '01

On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 19:41:16 +0100 "Ashley T. Howes" wrote: > This kind of thing pisses me off, however this is related to the general > defense of laws put in place by the American government. More > exactly, our > problem with this appears to stem from the fact the original law was > passed. The key question appears to be why this law was passed and what > can be done in the future to stop this happening again! We can change it but it will be difficult. We need to make it so that the law is completely useless and we need to work to get it removed! No I am not naive > This also seems to be related to the general problem of the > introduction of > more complex technology into society, which is governed by people who > don't > understand it. Unless something is done, this is only going to get worse. The problem is people are apathetic, stupid, gullable and down right incompetent. the 3 B's works everytime, add some FUD to the Bull shit and your onto a winner, the problem is the goverment is currupt and needs replacing, Quite how we can do so will prove difficult, which comes back to the qualities of people above. > Ideas to stop this in the future, comments on the above? Some Ideas above, but I think we will need to think carefully. Luckily the brits have a good record of being able to change laws through peace full protest i.e. Chartist movement, Suffragets(Sp?), gay rights movement. However non of these really contradicted on the interests of Big business, which could prove interesting, one thing for sure we need to use the system against the system. But step one is join the Euro crimes mailing list. Step 2 is to join the EFF. Thanks D > Ashley > > > > > > Dr. Ashley T. Howes PhD www.ashleyhowes.com > Programmer > > "When he sees the dream he seeks, he will sleep" > > > > > _______________________________________________ > alug, the Anglian Linux User Group list > Send list replies to alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > http://www.anglian.lug.org.uk/ http://rabbit.stu.uea.ac.uk/cgi-bin/listinfo/alug > See the website for instructions on digest or unsub! -- "Your house sounds like a fire hazard" Peter Clarke

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