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RE: [Alug] Evening Meetings
by Adam Bower 15 Apr '03

15 Apr '03

> -----Original Message----- > From: Syd Hancock [mailto:syd@toufol.com] > Sent: 15 April 2003 11:29 > To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > Subject: Re: [Alug] Evening Meetings > Mark (and others), any idea of the current status of these? As I said in my earlier email its all (hopefully) being sorted out off list at the moment. I will mail the list and update the website when dates/venues have been confirmed. Adam

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3com modem
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 15 Apr '03

15 Apr '03

As for me, I just sent a Sad and Disappointed email to 3com concerning their lack of linux support for product 3CP012884A. Perhaps they'll offer to refund me :-) Jen

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RE: [Alug] Evening Meetings
by Adam Bower 15 Apr '03

15 Apr '03

> -----Original Message----- > From: Graham Trott [mailto:gt@pobox.com] > Sent: 15 April 2003 08:46 > To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > Subject: Re: [Alug] Evening Meetings > > > I'm new around here so I missed this one. What's the story re the UEA > meeting? Just up the road from here. I am trying to get some meetings organised off list atm, when we have some fixed dates I will post them here and on the Alug website. Then I can see when people who have offered to do talks are available etc. Adam

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RE: [Alug] Re: Zauruss
by Adam Bower 15 Apr '03

15 Apr '03

> Excuse my ignorance but can you stick on of those 1G > microdrives in them? > (quite cheap as www.scan.co.uk (£127 ex vat!) at the > mo) > Tom AFAIK they work, at least I have read as much so you could use it to store vast amounts of .ogg files :) but I have not tried one! Adam

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RE: [Alug] Evening Meetings
by Keith Watson 14 Apr '03

14 Apr '03

How about an informal evening meeting in Norwich on Monday's from about 8pm. Syd Hancock and I have been discussing a suitable venue for this off-list, but are having trouble coming up with one. We thought a quiet pub would be good but if it's in the city centre parking might be a problem. Anyone know of any pub's or coffee bars, cafes etc. in the city centre that might fit the bill? I've often parked in the Forum car park when going out in Norwich in the evening so venues around the Forum might be a possibility. (is the Theatre coffe bar a possibility?) > > 8pm on a monday evening is fine with me too. The coming monday is > easter of course so maybe a week on monday for the first > get-together? If I have my sums right, the monday after that is a > bank holiday. > > > > I don't know either Norwich or its pubs at all well so cannot > > > suggest anywhere. The Wild Man that I was asking about on the > > > social list looks OK, central Norwich, easy to find, no idea > > > how busy it is on a monday evening. Or there is a big pub on > > > the right just up the hill past the guildhall (St Giles?) > > > > My thoughts also. I've only lived in Norfolk for a few years so > > I'm not too well up on the local pubs. There's a pub halfway > > down the Newmarket road that used to be an Internet 'Cafe' sort > > of affair, that might be a possibility. From my experience of > > other cities there are often pubs that seem to get most of their > > trade from working people during the day and are pretty quiet in > > the evenings, so it might be worth looking at a city centre > > venue. Big problem with city centre is parking. > > True and true - when shopping etc I usually use the multi-storey off > St Giles but it is a bit dear. There is the pay-and-display on the > inner ring road by Toys'R'Us, end of St Benedicts street (and there > is the Arts Centre on St Benedicts, nice little bar/cafe in there > too). > > > Probably best to ask on the list as there's a few members who > > live in Norwich and might be a bit more knowledgeable. What we > > need is a 'Norwich Pubs Howto' :o) > > I agree, let's put it to the list (although I like the idea of the > Arts Centre unless there is an event there that evening). > Regards, Keith ____________ Where does a wise man look for pebbles? On a beach. Where does the wise man hide a leaf? In a forest. G.K. Chesterton

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RE: [Alug] kernel upgrade problems
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 14 Apr '03

14 Apr '03

Paul wrote: >a) Upgrade modutils to the latest version, and, >b) Upgrade lilo also. and raph(a)panache.demon.co.uk wrote: >To build 2.4.x udner 2.2 you will have to upgrade lots of things, including >gcc, modutils. binutils, libraries and possibly others. the easy way to do it >is to build a complete new system in a spare partition; don't try to upgrade in >place - you may screw up your working system. Thanks for this advice. My system has only a dialup modem, so the last update I did was from the woody cdrom. I'll also read up on debian kernel packages as advised on IRC last week. Will let you know if I have any success, hoping to have lots of nice home-computer time this weekend :-) Jen

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 14 Apr '03

14 Apr '03

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Adding a udma-100 card?
by Syd Hancock 14 Apr '03

14 Apr '03

I have an udma-100 hard drive but the m/board supports only ata-33 (apologies if these are not the correct technical terms). Is a udma-100 card simply a hardware addition or will it need drivers and, if so, are these likely to be modules or will it require a kernel rebuild? If distro dependant, it is likely to be used with either mandrake 9.1 or knoppix. TIA Syd

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LinuxConf Australia (LCA) 2003 - CD-ROM available
by Steve Fosdick 13 Apr '03

13 Apr '03

I spotted on Debian Planet that a CD-ROM had been released of the papers and presentations at LCA-2003 and it looks pretty interesting. Below is list of the papers/presentations. I have downloaded a copy of the CD and if anyone wants a real CD-ROM copy I'd be happy to do one - please let me know. Otherwise see http://conf.linux.org.au/ Wednesday, 22nd January 2003 ============================ Welcome to Linux.conf.au 2003 PHP Introduction Rasmus Lerdorf PHP Advanced Rasmus Lerdorf Using autoconf, automake and friends. Malcolm Tredinnick The Unreliable Guide to Kernel Hacking Paul "Rusty" Russell Using Sweep: Fun with Scrubby Conrad Parker The Ins and Outs of PostgreSQL Gavin Sherry Thursday, 23rd January 2003 =========================== Reverse Engineering Techniques Andrew Tridgell My computer is bigger than yours! Martin Schwenke Making the right sort of difference: bugs Telsa Gwynne and what to do with them Sweep: Real-world audio editing on Linux Conrad Parker more, More, MORE! - Porting Hints and Horror Bdale Garbee Stories from the Debian Project ARQuake - Outdoor Augmented Reality Gaming Wayne Piekarski $100,000 OUT OF THE WINDOW? YOU Philip Hart CANNOT BE SERIOUS! Teaching Software Engineering using David Glance Open Source Software Dynamic Feedback in LVS Jeremy Kerr Pretend Systems doing real Work Dan Shearer Dynamic Probes - Debugging by Stealth Suparna Bhattacharya What is that CONFIG_HAMRADIO thing anyway? Hugh Blemings A Linux users guide to Ham Radio DHCPv6 for Linux Suresh Kodati Q&A Session Friday, 24th January 2003 ========================= Herding Wild Cats and Related Adventures Bdale Garbee An Inside Look at the Debian Project The Boston Consulting Group/OSDN Hacker Survey Jeff "Hemos" Bates initramfs, klibc and early userspace H. Peter Anvin Towards full NTFS semantics in Samba Andrew Tridgell Useful kernel audits Alan Cox Putting a filesystem into a device driver Greg KH PHP Printing with PDF Rasmus Lerdorf Biometrics and Linux Alexander Reeder Perdition: A Mail Retrieval Proxy Simon "Horms" Horman Zeroconf networking Brad Hards Problems in Open Source Licensing Jeremy Malcolm High Availability using Reliable Server Pooling Thomas Dreibholz Who wants another filesystem Neil Brown Saturday, 25th January 2003 =========================== Hacking the kernel and looking cool whilst Paul "Rusty" Russell driving a fast car distcc Martin Pool I'll Do It Later: Softirqs, Tasklets, Bottom Matthew Wilcox Halves, Task Queues, Work Queues and Timers The Linux Kernel Device Model Patrick Mochel Sequel Syndrome: The GNOME Project Grows Up Jeff Waugh Linux at the Little End of the World Malcolm Tredinnick EggMenu James Henstridge Katie, open-source revision control system Geoffrey D. Bennett Design of the Portable.NET Interpreter Rhys Weatherley Developing network applications under UNIX Adrian Chadd Debian Mini-conf ================ DPL State of the Nation Address Bdale Garbee Debian and Ham Radio Bdale Garbee Debian package cache with apt-cacher Jonathan Oxer "Hopefully enough stuff to fill the allotted Paul "Rusty" Russell time" FAI - unattended Debian installations Niall Young IPv6 in Debian Trent "Lathiat" Lloyd IPv6 Mini-conf ============== Writing IPv6 Network Applications Trent "Lathiat" Lloyd IPv6 Tunnel Broker Anand Kumria IPv6 for Everyone Anand Kumria Enabling a Campus LAN for IPv6 Grahame Bowland --- End ---

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Fw: Re: [Alug] PCI ADSL modems
by Steve Fosdick 13 Apr '03

13 Apr '03

On Sun, 13 Apr 2003 00:44:27 -0000 MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > Steve Fosdick <lists(a)pelvoux.nildram.co.uk> wrote: > > Debian source, patched it, and build it into a binary package which > > I could install in place of the normal Debian one. It is working > > fine with both PPPoA for ADSL and standard dialup. > > Remember to mark the package as "hold" if you use apt-get at all. You > can do this through one of the front-ends (not sure whether dselect > can, though), or I think it's echo "pppd hold" | dpkg --set-selections > if you feel like brute force. You should check the fine manual before > believing me, though. I just checked in aptitude and it seems to have aquired hold status automatically, unless in a brief moment of inspiration I thought to do this myself. When building the package I did look to see if there was any easy way of setting the package version so it was obvious it was an unoffical package but I didn't see such a thing. Anyone know if this is easy? > Actually, I remember someone complaining on another IRC channel about > this problem, but I don't remember if there was another solution. > Such is the trouble with IRC for technical questions. My guess is that it is to do with the fact that the symbol is a BSS symbol rather than a normal text or data symbol, but that doesn't provide a solution. Actaully, since my last e-mail I have remembered another small issue with the Conexant Tigris drivers - one is supposed to be able to get status information from /proc/net/atm/CnxAdsl:0 but if I try to cat this file it dies with a segmentation fault with syslog indicating that a NULL pointer dereference is happening within the kernel. Kudos to Linus and the other kernel contributors that the kernel can recover from errors like this by killing the process that invoked the faulted code. This bug also doesn't seem to make any difference to the actual operation of the card and sufficient status information seems to be available from the /proc/CnxAdslDebugQuery file. Steve.

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