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Re: [Alug]Update on story of Microsoft charging schools too much.
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 22 Jun '03

22 Jun '03

Neil Marjoram wrote: >I would like to start with a clearly well worded and clearly >demonstrable case to remove MS Office in our schools in favor of Open >Office for each MP in our area (Saving Money in education wins votes!) >It should also be a short non technical non bias paper (if we can be non >bias!). Then lets go for the jugular latter with Linux instead of >Windows (think we need a few more revisions before we have good >desktop). > >I'll go for a draft, but my English and spelling are crap - anyone like >to take up this challenge? Neil - you write a draft and I'll spell check and tweak words a bit, if you like. Jen

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Re: [Alug]Re: Update on story of Microsoft charging schools too much
by Ben Francis 22 Jun '03

22 Jun '03

> > The downside for your school may be cost as in replacing old servers, and > paying my time. It depends on their budget. Very quickly, because of > reliability and lack of hassle, it becomes cost effective, of course, and the > licencing fees are nice! > Thanks for the offer but I'm afraid paying someone to set it up for us is out of the question. Firstly we simply can't afford it and secondly we'd be missing out on the experience ourselves. Any advice would be welcome though.

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[Alug]thin client
by Laurie Brown 22 Jun '03

22 Jun '03

Is there anyone in the LUG with some Linux-based thin-client expertise willing and able to talk to me? I have a pretty large potential customer. Cheers, Laurie. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Laurie Brown laurie(a)brownowl.com --------------------------------------------------------------------

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[Alug]Kmail config files
by Syd Hancock 21 Jun '03

21 Jun '03

I am moving a Kmail 1.4 to another machine. The folder Mail in my home directory holds all the messages but I cannot find the location of the config files. I expected to find a 'dot' file in the home directory such as .kmail or something similar but no such luck. Does anyone know the location of the files holding all the Kmail config information? TIA Syd

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[Alug]Open Source penetrates the Leagl market!
by Tony Dietrich 20 Jun '03

20 Jun '03

Given the subjects we've seen on here lately, I though you guys might be interested in the news that the Legal profession seem to be picking up on Linux now .... We've just had a firm order for a network of 12 systems from a small-medium sized firm of solicitors in Kent, mostly on Linux o/s, including desktop systems for the staff. One of the reasons they've crossed the divide is that they reckon they are laying themselves open to claims that the data on their systems may not be secure against intrusion, despite Redmond's denial that they would ever use the rights they claim in their EULA for that purpose. The fact that the staff had a go at a demonstration system, and wanted to switch to Linux was a boost as well :-) The fact that the firm reckons they'll save considerably on TCO helped too, as did the fact that losing the os software costs meant that the project could be brought in for £5k less than if they'd opted for MS. -- Tony Dietrich <td(a)transcc.co.uk> Transoft Computer Consultancy Ltd. -- Tony Dietrich <td(a)transoft.demon.co.uk> Transoft Computer Consultants

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[Alug]Announce digest, Vol 2 #8 - 1 msg
by announce-request＠lists.alug.org.uk 20 Jun '03

20 Jun '03

Send Announce mailing list submissions to announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to announce-request(a)lists.alug.org.uk You can reach the person managing the list at announce-admin(a)lists.alug.org.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Announce digest..." --------------.--------------------------------------------.------------ alug-announce | Newsletter of the Anglian Linux User Group | Weekly(ish) --------------'--------------------------------------------'------------ ** Please send articles for this letter to announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk ** *** Please send replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk, not announce... *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Today's Topics: 1. LOCAL: ALUG Meeting: 19 June 2003, Norwich (MJ Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> To: announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 14:37:45 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Alug Announce]LOCAL: ALUG Meeting: 19 June 2003, Norwich [1]ALUG [2]Map Meeting 2003.7 : Norwich: The Royal British Legion Hall, Aylsham Road, Norwich 19 June 2003 Plan for the meeting Roughly, as follows: We will meet up from 8pm onwards for an informal evening get-together for anyone interested in GNU/Linux. The room is immediately to your left as you enter the bar and is known as 'the TV room'. If you are bringing any equipment that requires mains power bring an extension lead as there seem to be very few electrical sockets. People at the meeting So far, Syd, Paul and MJR are confirmed, while various others are suspected. If you will also be coming to this meeting, please try to say so on the mailing list, so we can be prepared for the numbers! Equipment Equipment is brought at your own risk. We strongly suggest that you tag or label your kit. No known thefts have occurred at our meetings, but there is ample scope for going home with the wrong cables, etc. Be sure to bring all appropriate power cables etc. An extra extension lead will also be a good idea. So far, for this meeting, we know of: MJR A small fluffy penguin to sit on the table, so that you can find us. Discussion If you want to discuss this meeting, please [3]use the mailing list. [4]Back to the meetings index * Destinations 1. [5]Join ALUG 2. [6]FAQ 3. [7]Meetings * Local LUGs 1. [8]Peterborough 2. [9]Cambridge * Recent Donors 1. [10]PHP4Hosting 2. [11]Black Cat Networks 3. [12]Martyn Drake 4. [13]Turo Technology LLP You may think I'm a dreamer... but I'm not the only one [14]UK LUGs References 1. http://www.alug.org.uk/ 2. http://www.alug.org.uk/ 3. http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main 4. http://www.alug.org.uk/meetings/ 5. http://www.alug.org.uk/background/contacts.html 6. http://www.alug.org.uk/contrib/?AlugFaq 7. http://www.alug.org.uk/meetings/2003/ 8. http://www.peterboro.lug.org.uk/ 9. http://www.cam-lug.org.uk/ 10. http://www.php4hosting.co.uk/ 11. http://www.blackcatnetworks.co.uk/ 12. http://www.drake.org.uk/ 13. http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ 14. http://www.lug.org.uk/ --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Announce mailing list Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce End of Announce Digest

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[Alug]Norwich meet this evening
by Syd Hancock 19 Jun '03

19 Jun '03

Just a quick reminder - thursday 19th June (today) at the RBLH (Royal British Legion Hall), Aylsham Road, Norwich. 8-11pm in 'the TV room' immediately to your left as you enter the bar. Should be some sort of sign on the door ranging from a scrawled note to a multi-coloured Tux poster. Hope to see a few people there? Syd

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[Alug]Web cam
by John Woodard 19 Jun '03

19 Jun '03

Can anyone reccomend a Linux friendly webcam for use with Gnomemeeting. Usb 1.1 any suggestions? Also what other webcam apps are worth looking at? Cheers, BJ

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[Alug]Alug library
by Adam Bower 18 Jun '03

18 Jun '03

Hi all, I got some books from O'Reilly last week for us to review, If you would like a copy of a particular book then please mail the list to say so. The one thing you have to consent to doing (apart from promising to look after the book and return it when someone else wants it) is writing a review that I can return to O'Reilly so that they will be prepared to send more review copies in future. Unfortunatly I will not be able to make the meeting tomorrow night as I have other commitments, although if you want to collect books from me then I live in Cambridge. I will also be at the next weeked meeting although I currently have that down as the 17th of August in Syleham courtesy of Big John. (not including tomorrows meeting and further Norwich evening meetings) If anyone has a venue for July (or i have forgotten Julys meeting) can they please step forwards? One possibiliy for the next meeting would be a showing of the Revolution OS DVD, so somewhere with a projector or large tele screen would be really great. Revolution OS website here > http://www.revolution-os.com/ Anyhow the books currently available in the Alug library are (this will be online soon, I just need to get a box built and hosted to put the library system on) Building Embedded Linux Systems Learning Red Hat Linux (3rd edition) Using Samba (2nd edition) Linux server hacks Free as in freedom The Cathedral and the Bazaar The root of all evil (user friendly) Anyhow if you want one of these books or can help with a venue for next month (or remind me where Julys weekend meeting venue is) then I would be very greatful. Thanks Adam -- jabberid = quinophex(a)jabber.earth.li AFFS || http://www.affs.org.uk/ || Not a filesystem

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[Alug]Adding "shutdown" to xdm
by dan.hatton＠btinternet.com 17 Jun '03

17 Jun '03

I haven't tried any of this, just found the instructions with a Google. An obvious difference between the command you tried directly, which worked, and the command in the script, which didn't, is the "2" in kill -9 $pid 2>/dev/null. I don't know what purpose, if any, it serves, and maybe you'd be better off without it. -- Dan

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