August 2003 - main

[Alug]Norwich meeting schedule.
by Syd Hancock 17 Sep '03

17 Sep '03

I would like to have regular sunday meetings in Norwich every two months, held regularly on the last weekend of the month (i.e. roughly mid-way between the mid-monthly evening meetings). 1. Syleham is planned for every third month so every six months there would be a possible overlap. But, provided we don't choose the same date, I suggest that it is worth trying out since the extra mileage means that for some people Syleham is just that bit too far south of Norwich and for others Norwich is a little too far north compared to Syleham. 2. Use of UEA facilities with bandwidth would be great if it could be arranged regularly and reliably. If not then a reasonable venue that happens is better than a great venue that doesn't. **If there is anyone on the list who is able to book a room at UEA please contact me.** Can people who work at UEA book rooms? As has been said before, you don't need to do anything except make the booking. No organising, no responsibility to take, nothing... unless you want to do more of course :-) Any comments on these suggestions? Syd

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RE: [Alug]External modem on laptop
by Jenny Hopkins 03 Sep '03

03 Sep '03

Chris Glover wrote: >Doesn't the laptop have a PS/2 port for the rodent? I'll check this out at home - or I could get a USB mouse as there is one USB port. Daniel Silverstone wrote: > If you're *extremely lucky* you won't have fried your modem > or your parallel port. > > *very different power levels and pinouts there* > > If you need to use this serial modem, get a USB<->serial doobry Er, oops :-) I have very little luck with modems (ongoing sagas) so it may be fried. I did only have the one brief attempt. I'll try either a USB or PS2 mouse then to free the serial port, or see if I can easily get the usb-serial doobry. (Then I'll go and get another unfried modem......) Thanks all, Jen

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[Alug]"From Boot to Halt" talk, Norwich sunday 28th September.
by Syd Hancock 02 Sep '03

02 Sep '03

At the last meeting it was suggested that we have the 'From Boot to Halt' talk at the next Norwich sunday meeting (2pm Sunday 28th September, Nelson Room, The Billy Bluelight, Hall road) MJR has offered to start it off: " I'm happy to give an overview/introduction talk (kernel startup, hand-off to init, types of init, runlevels, common tasks, that sort of thing) and present a poster on some aspect no-one else wants to do." It would be great if there are one or two other people who are willing to join in with information on other aspects of the boot process, especially anyone involved in development or doing any other "fun stuff with start-up and shutdown". An A3 or 2xA4 poster would be helpful too. Some useful and interesting topics would include ways to handle power management/UPS, particularly as more people move to using laptops. Something on APM/ACPI for example? Anyone who is interested, please respond either to the list or privately to either myself and/or Mark. In any event, the introductory talk on the boot process will take place at this meeting - further details and announcement to follow. Syd

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[Alug]Do Different Computer Show
by Tarquin Mills 02 Sep '03

02 Sep '03

Hi The Do Different Computer Show that was discussed on IRC has been cancelled. However as a replacement a Spectrum and SAM Coupé computer Show called ORSAM 2003 is to be held in Norwich. For details see: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/speccyverse/orsam.htm You are all warmly invited to come. At the show I would like to have a computer (Linux?) with a webcam and irc server running so that people in North America and others who could not turn up could take part in the show. Maybe a Spectrum or SAM could be connected to it take part in the IRC chat. I could provided a broadband connect only a few metres from the venue, a webcam, a computer and a spectrum. What I do not have is Wireless hardware, knowledge or much time on the day, though I will give what I can. Any help would be much appreciated. -- Tarquin Mills Bring back YS (Then you can ZIP to the Stars with YS, hurrah. Ed) http://www.planet14.sonow4u.co.uk/

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[Alug]Norwich evening meet August 14th Forum 8.00pm
by Syd Hancock 01 Sep '03

01 Sep '03

Next Norwich evening meet on the second thursday of the month i.e. 14th August at 8.00pm in the Forum coffee bar. Syd

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[Alug]Linux IP Camera... Ideas on a postcard
by Michael Sage 31 Aug '03

31 Aug '03

All, I have often looked in awe at IP Cameras, and we have recently done a job for a customer involving some, but they are sooo expensive, well more than £150. I like the Dlink DCS 1000 et al. I would like to build one using a spare miniITX box I have and a Logitech Web Cam Pro I have USB. Couple of questions! 1. Does Linux support Logitech Web cam pro 2. Is there console web cam software that I coule use to upload to a local apache server? 3. Is there a premade distro designed for this use, or could I make one somehow? I guess the ITX box needs to do the following! 1. Support the webcam 2. Have a NIC 3. Run apache for the images 4. All run off a compact flash card, no moving parts and all that! err, I think thats it. Any how, let me know what you think. Regards, Michael

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[Alug]ADSL and security
by bsamuels＠beenthere-donethat.org.uk 31 Aug '03

31 Aug '03

My local telephone exchange is becoming broadband enabled at the end of September and I am working on the assumption that I will be able to use it (BT's site says I MAY). I have a firewall running (Endoshield - very easy to set up) and have just changed it to Bastille which seems to be working (grc.com) Bastille recommends 'psad' which is also now installed. I had Snort and Samhain installed but do I need these? Do I need Packet Mangling enabled in the Kernel which it isn't at present? Advice would be appreciated Yours paranoidly Barry Samuels http://www.beenthere-donethat.org.uk The Unofficial Guide to Great Britain

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[Alug]Software Patents /. story
by Paul Russell 31 Aug '03

31 Aug '03

There's a story on /. at the moment which talks about a letter sent by one John Salin to the USPTO regarding software patents. The author of this article suggests mentioning this to MEPs. Does anyone know enough about the way the anti-SP movement is run here in the UK to make this happen in a coordinated fashion? http://slashdot.org/articles/03/08/29/2136238.shtml?tid=155&tid=99 Paul -- Paul Russell work(a)paulrussell.org

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[Alug]Announce digest, Vol 2 #14 - 5 msgs
by announce-request＠lists.alug.org.uk 30 Aug '03

30 Aug '03

Send Announce mailing list submissions to announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to announce-request(a)lists.alug.org.uk You can reach the person managing the list at announce-admin(a)lists.alug.org.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Announce digest..." --------------.--------------------------------------------.------------ alug-announce | Newsletter of the Anglian Linux User Group | Weekly(ish) --------------'--------------------------------------------'------------ ** Please send articles for this letter to announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk ** *** Please send replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk, not announce... *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Today's Topics: 1. [SB] Linux Accessibility Event -19 November 2003 - Birmingham (fwd) (MJ Ray) 2. [Fsfe-uk] McCarthy report withdrawn (fwd) (MJ Ray) 3. [Alug]"From Boot to Halt" talk, Norwich sunday 28th September. (fwd) (MJ Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 00:36:46 +0100 From: MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> To: announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Organization: My own Subject: [Alug Announce][SB] Linux Accessibility Event -19 November 2003 - Birmingham (fwd) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jeremy.Ali(a)rnib.org.uk To: sb(a)mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: [SB] Linux Accessibility Event -19 November 2003 - Birmingham Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 10:49:48 +0100 Hi I work for the Royal National Institute of the Blind in a role where I n= eed to facilitate access to computer systems by blind and partially sighted people in education and employment. *Generally* the need is to make a Windows desktop system accessible. We run an annual conference on technology for blind and partially sighted people where IT and disabilit= y professionals and users attend from many different countries. This year= we have a pre-conference workshop on Linux accessibility to blind and parti= ally sighted people. Details, and a link, follow. ...... "Linux Accessibility Step-by-Step - 10.00 - 16.00 Janina Sajka, Director - Technology Research and Development, American Foundation for the Blind, USA Overview of workshop This day long session will demonstrate the process of installing and configuring Linux for use by a blind individual. The current Red Hat distribution will be installed and augmented with speech and braille interfaces. Additional configuration will include Ethernet and modem bas= ed networking and ssh for secure remote login. The Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (ALS) will be installed to support voice over IP, and Real media streaming, wav, MP3, and ogg creation and playback. Basic terminology will be covered, as well as the basics of installing, updating, and removing software using the Redhat Package Manager (rpm). Participants will be introduced to several available options for text editing, email, and web serving and browsing. In all cases the emphasis = will be on strategies for resolving problems and getting help using both the installed system and on line resources. Participants will receive a CD R= OM with applications and documentation. Anticipated audience Users, trainers and educators. Participants need not have any experience= of Linux (or Unix), but should be comfortable with basic computer concepts = and hardware. Price: =A3120 early bird (Until 1 October), =A3150 full price Further Information The venue will be: RNIB Conference Centre 58-72 John Bright Street Birmingham B1 1BN United Kingdom A buffet lunch will be provided with each workshop." ........ Info on pre-conference workshops can be found at http://www.rnib.org.uk/xpedio/groups/public/documents/PublicWebsite/publ= ic_p reconfworkshops.hcsp and details of the Techshare conference itself (20-= 21 Nov) can be found at www.techshare.org.uk and the email contact is techshare(a)rnib.org.uk Cheers --Jeremy Ali, RNIB Education & Employment Centre, 58 - 72 John Bright Street, Birmingham B1 1BN, United Kingdom tel: +44 (0)121 665 4210 fax: +44 (0)121 665 4201 - NOTICE: The information contained in this email and any attachments is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that you must not use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this email's content. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and then delete the email and any attachments from your system. RNIB has made strenuous efforts to ensure that emails and any attachments generated by its staff are free from viruses. However, it cannot accept any responsibility for any viruses which are transmitted. We therefore recommend you scan all attachments. Please note that the statements and views expressed in this email and any attachments are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of RNIB. RNIB Registered Charity Number: 226227 Website: http://www.rnib.org.uk --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 17:51:06 +0100 From: MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> To: lugmaster(a)lug.org.uk, announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Organization: My own Subject: [Alug Announce][Fsfe-uk] McCarthy report withdrawn (fwd) Rejoice, rejoice, rejoice and get ready to help with the next steps... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: 2003-08-28 16:52:29 +0100 From: Ciaran O'Riordan <ciaran(a)member.fsf.org> Subject: [Fsfe-uk] McCarthy report withdrawn The McCarthy report HAS been withdrawn! (forwarded mail at bottom) I've confirmed this with a phone call to the European Parliament Office in Ireland. They said that this happens when a directive is very contraversial or when too many amendments are proposed. The directive will go back to the committee stage for some more work, and a new version will go to the plenary on either 22nd of September, or early October. October is more likely. On the phone, she said that it is *definitely* withdrawn. This situation can be reversed but it's highly unlikely. we kick ass. ...and have more work to do :) Ciaran O'Riordan On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 02:42:24PM +0200, Sarah Sheil wrote: > we have received indications that the McCarthy report has been > withdrawn from next week's European Parliament agenda. No further > details at the moment but the most likely explanation is that it > requires further examination at committee level. > > best wishes > > > > Sarah Sheil > European Parliament Office in Ireland > 43 Molesworth Street > IRL - Dublin 2 _______________________________________________ Fsfe-uk mailing list Fsfe-uk(a)gnu.org http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/fsfe-uk -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and possibly not of any group I know. http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ jabber://slef@jabber.at --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 09:05:59 +0100 From: MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> To: announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Organization: My own Subject: [Alug Announce][Alug]"From Boot to Halt" talk, Norwich sunday 28th September. (fwd) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: 2003-08-26 20:24:06 +0100 From: Syd Hancock <syd(a)toufol.com> Subject: [Alug]"From Boot to Halt" talk, Norwich sunday 28th September. At the last meeting it was suggested that we have the 'From Boot to Halt' talk at the next Norwich sunday meeting (2pm Sunday 28th September, Nelson Room, The Billy Bluelight, Hall road) MJR has offered to start it off: " I'm happy to give an overview/introduction talk (kernel startup, hand-off to init, types of init, runlevels, common tasks, that sort of thing) and present a poster on some aspect no-one else wants to do." It would be great if there are one or two other people who are willing to join in with information on other aspects of the boot process, especially anyone involved in development or doing any other "fun stuff with start-up and shutdown". An A3 or 2xA4 poster would be helpful too. Some useful and interesting topics would include ways to handle power management/UPS, particularly as more people move to using laptops. Something on APM/ACPI for example? Anyone who is interested, please respond either to the list or privately to either myself and/or Mark. In any event, the introductory talk on the boot process will take place at this meeting - further details and announcement to follow. Syd _______________________________________________ main(a)lists.alug.org.uk http://www.alug.org.uk/ http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above! -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and possibly not of any group I know. http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ jabber://slef@jabber.at Creative copyleft computing services via http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ *UPDATED* Kit for sale at http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ads.html --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Announce mailing list Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce End of Announce Digest

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[Alug]Norwich evening meet
by Syd Hancock 28 Aug '03

28 Aug '03

A small but perfectly formed gathering - Keith, Syd, Mark and Paul. Very interesting and enjoyable natter ensued. Because of many and various other monthly events (NPCUG, RUNG, PLUG), I propose that the meets be on the seconfd thursday of each month from now on. Next Norwich evening meet on thursday 10th July. Still some debate about the venue - to be confirmed. Regards Syd

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