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RE: [ALUG] PCI-E graphics cards
by Chris Glover 17 Nov '05

17 Nov '05

On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 10:31 +0000, Peter Onion wrote: > > On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 10:00 +0000, Peter Onion wrote: > > > Does anyone have any experience with PCI-E graphics cards ? > > > > > > I've purchased a ATI X800-GTO to put in my new AMD 64 box, but I'm > > confused > > > by what it says on the box ... "Mother board must support specialized > > 12V > > > connector for graphics cards" (Or words to that effect). > > > > > > Now there is space on the graphics card for a 6 pin (2x3) socket but > > there > > > is not one mounted there, so I'm guessing that I don't need to provide > > this > > > particular version of the card with any additional power (other than > > what it > > > can draw from the PCI-E connector). > > > > > > Any thoughts ? > > > > > > Peter > > > > Hi Peter, > > > > On both of my PCI Express equipped machines, there is a Harddrive style > > power connector right next to the PCIE slot which needs a power cable > > plugged in. This is in addition to the square 4pin connector that gives > > 12v to the processor. > > > > Hope that helps > > Mine has both of them as well, but it's obvious what to plug into them ! :-) > > My problem is the box for the graphics card seems to suggest there should be > a power connector on the card itself, yet the space is unpopulated. > > Peter It varies from card to card. You'll find the babies of the range don't have it, yet the more powerfull cards do. I have an Nvidia 6200 card, which has the solder points on the board for the socket, but no socket. It works perfectly without it. So if the manufactures never fitted the socket to the board, chances are you wont need it! HTH Chris -- Chris ---------------------------------- E Mail: chris(a)glovercc.plus.com SIP: 84411389(a)voiptalk.org IAXTEL: 17003366726

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Fat Cat Meeting, Tomorrow Night
by Simon 17 Nov '05

17 Nov '05

Hi, Due to the fact a number of Alug members weren't able to make the meeting at the Reindeer last thursday, another extra meeting is being organised for tomorrow night. (Wednesday 16th Nov) Meeting at about 8pm till close. The Fat Cat, if you've not been there before is located on the corner of West End Street and Nelson Street, just off Dereham Road. (Map: http://tinyurl.com/c5sl7 ) Expect the usual mix of open source and beer! Hope you can make it. -Simon

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Window managers, changing, choosing, etc.
by Chris Green 16 Nov '05

16 Nov '05

Why is it always so difficult to change Window Managers! :-) I currently use xfwm but I'm considering moving to an alternative because xfce is getting too 'clever' for my liking. However, because I'm using xfce's session manager it's almost locked me in to xfce. How can I disentangle things a bit? Currently I use wdm to start things up and that in turn executes my .xsession which, currently, runs xfce. wdm offers a menu of window managers but this has no effect, I'm not clear how it works, it would be nice to make it work. Alternatively where can I find a .xsession file suitable for starting other window managers? I'm quite happy to switch between window managers by simply changing the .xsession file. I can at least understand what's going on then! -- Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk) "Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence."

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Re: [ALUG] Good Evening Everyone! New member here!
by Peter 16 Nov '05

16 Nov '05

Tried to install amyedit, which looks quite interesting, but on configure, it turns out to be dependency hell! Various gtkmm bits are not in the path, or not installed, so I tried installing them (this is Mandriva), they seemed to go in ok, but still can't configure. I do have apt-rpm installed, but that doesn't seem to find gtkmm... Oh well. I'll keep trying, but one question: why, in the FAQ, does it answer the question why not use GEDIT instead? Am I missing something about GEDIT? It looks like any other very stripped down text editor, and not at all to be an alternative to Kile or Lyx or anything like that. There must be more to it, if people use it to create LaTex? Peter

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NFS via crossover cable networking problem
by stelmack＠nwlink.com 15 Nov '05

15 Nov '05

Greetings, This is an old 233MHZ "box1" or 192.168.1.1 set to be the client. It is connected to another 1GHZ "box2" or 192.168.1.2 via a crossover cable. As you can see I am able to ping the client from the client (no big excitement there), and I am able to ping the server (after much experimentation and research). (Don't ask me ALL the things I did wrong and the BIOS setting when there two NIC's installed --- whew!!!) Now I am trying to set up a NFS to gain access of files from either box. I am unable to mount the file system for use in either direction. I've read every "HOW-TO" and believe I've got it set up right, but I'm stuck. Both systems are versions of RedHat (7.3 for the older and 8.0 for the newer box). Anything I should check, do or change? I'm fairly new to Linux so I may have done something basically wrong. Cheers, Bob Stelmack ====================================================================== 192.168.1.1 "box1" details ====================================================================== [root@ramjet stelmack]# hostname ramjet [root@ramjet stelmack]# more /etc/exports 192.168.1.1(rw) 192.168.1.2(rw) [root@ramjet stelmack]# cd /mnt [root@ramjet mnt]# ls cdrom cdrom1 floppy floppy.directory home zip100.0.drectory [root@ramjet stelmack]# mount 192.168.1.2: /home mount: RPC: Unable to recieve; error = Connection refused [root@ramjet stelmack]# /sbin/ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:C0:4F:CF:10:B1 inet addr:192.168.1.1 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 02:00:07:E3:67:38 inet addr:192.168.1.4 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:212 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:212 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 RX bytes:14404 (14.0 Kb) TX bytes:14404 (14.0 Kb) [root@ramjet stelmack]# ping 192.168.1.1 PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) from 192.168.1.1 : 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=780 usec Warning: time of day goes back, taking countermeasures. 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=1.811 msec 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=255 time=276 usec 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=255 time=262 usec 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=255 time=268 usec --- 192.168.1.1 ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/mdev = 0.262/0.679/1.811/0.599 ms [root@ramjet stelmack]# ping 192.168.1.2 PING 192.168.1.2 (192.168.1.2) from 192.168.1.1 : 56(84) bytes of data. Warning: time of day goes back, taking countermeasures. 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=2.513 msec 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=387 usec 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=398 usec 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=397 usec --- 192.168.1.2 ping statistics --- 4 packets transmitted, 4 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/mdev = 0.387/0.923/2.513/0.918 ms [root@ramjet stelmack]# /usr/sbin/rpcinfo -p localhost program vers proto port 100000 2 tcp 111 portmapper 100000 2 udp 111 portmapper 100024 1 udp 32768 status 100024 1 tcp 32768 status 391002 2 tcp 32769 sgi_fam [root@ramjet stelmack]# /usr/sbin/rpcinfo -p 192.168.1.1 program vers proto port 100000 2 tcp 111 portmapper 100000 2 udp 111 portmapper 100024 1 udp 32768 status 100024 1 tcp 32768 status 391002 2 tcp 32769 sgi_fam [root@ramjet stelmack]# /usr/sbin/rpcinfo -p 192.168.1.2 rpcinfo: can't contact portmapper: RPC: Remote system error - Connection refused [root@ramjet stelmack]# cd /etc [root@ramjet etc]# more host.conf order hosts,bind [root@ramjet etc]# more hosts # Do not remove the following line, or various programs # that require network functionality will fail. 127.0.0.1 ramjet localhost.localdomain localhost 192.168.1.1 box1 192.168.1.2 box2 [root@ramjet etc]# more hosts.allow # # hosts.allow This file describes the names of the hosts which are # allowed to use the local INET services, as decided # by the '/usr/sbin/tcpd' server. # [root@ramjet etc]# more hosts.deny # # hosts.deny This file describes the names of the hosts which are # *not* allowed to use the local INET services, as decided # by the '/usr/sbin/tcpd' server. # # The portmap line is redundant, but it is left to remind you that # the new secure portmap uses hosts.deny and hosts.allow. In particular # you should know that NFS uses portmap! [root@ramjet sysconfig]# more network NETWORKING=yes HOSTNAME=ramjet [root@ramjet sysconfig]# cd networking/ [root@ramjet networking]# ls devices ifcfg-lo profiles [root@ramjet networking]# cd profiles [root@ramjet profiles]# ls default [root@ramjet profiles]# cd default [root@ramjet default]# ls hosts ifcfg-eth0 ifcfg-mybtinternet network ifcfg-bt ifcfg-eth0.bak ifcfg-ppp0 resolv.conf ifcfg-bt internet ifcfg-eth1 junk [root@ramjet default]# more hosts # Do not remove the following line, or various programs # that require network functionality will fail. 127.0.0.1 ramjet localhost.localdomain localhost 192.168.1.1 box1 192.168.1.2 box2 [root@ramjet default]# more network HOSTNAME=ramjet [root@ramjet default]# more ifcfg-eth0 DEVICE=eth0 ONBOOT=yes BOOTPROTO=static TYPE=Ethernet USERCTL=no PEERDNS=no BROADCAST=192.168.1.255 NETWORK=192.168.1.0 NETMASK=255.255.255.0 [root@ramjet default]# more resolv.conf nameserver 192.168.1.1 [root@ramjet default]# more /etc/rc.d/rc.local #!/bin/sh # # This script will be executed *after* all the other init scripts. # You can put your own initialization stuff in here if you don't # want to do the full Sys V style init stuff. /sbin/ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.1 broadcast 192.168.1.255 netmask 255.255.255.0 up /sbin/ifconfig eth1 192.168.1.4 broadcast 192.168.1.255 netmask 255.255.255.0 up touch /var/lock/subsys/local ====================================================================== 192.168.1.2 "box2" details ====================================================================== [root@dell stelmack]# hostname dell [root@dell stelmack]# more /etc/exports 192.168.1.2(rw) 192.168.1.1(rw) [root@dell stelmack]# cd /mnt [root@dell mnt]# ls cdrom floppy home [root@dell mnt]# mount 192.168.1.1: /home mount: RPC: Port mapper failure - RPC: Unable to receive [root@dell mnt]# /sbin/ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:06:5B:70:C0:C3 inet addr:192.168.1.2 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:20 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:24 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:1650 (1.6 Kb) TX bytes:1918 (1.8 Kb) Interrupt:11 Base address:0xec80 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:72 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:72 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:4694 (4.5 Kb) TX bytes:4694 (4.5 Kb) [root@dell mnt]# ping 192.168.1.2 PING 192.168.1.2 (192.168.1.2) from 192.168.1.2 : 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.124 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.071 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.060 ms --- 192.168.1.2 ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% loss, time 2002ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.060/0.085/0.124/0.027 ms [root@dell mnt]# ping 192.168.1.1 PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) from 192.168.1.2 : 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=0.307 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=255 time=0.298 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=255 time=0.296 ms --- 192.168.1.1 ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% loss, time 2000ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.296/0.300/0.307/0.014 ms [root@dell mnt]# [root@dell mnt]# /usr/sbin/rpcinfo -p 192.168.1.2 program vers proto port 100000 2 tcp 111 portmapper 100000 2 udp 111 portmapper 100024 1 udp 1024 status 100024 1 tcp 1024 status 391002 2 tcp 1025 sgi_fam [root@dell mnt]# /usr/sbin/rpcinfo -p 192.168.1.1 rpcinfo: can't contact portmapper: RPC: Remote system error - Connection refused[root@dell mnt]# [root@dell mnt]# [root@dell mnt]# cd /etc [root@dell etc]# more host.conf order hosts,bind [root@dell etc]# more hosts # Do not remove the following line, or various programs # that require network functionality will fail. 127.0.0.1 dell localhost.localdomain localhost 192.168.1.2 box2 192.168.1.1 box1 [root@dell etc]# more hosts.allow # # hosts.allow This file describes the names of the hosts which are # allowed to use the local INET services, as decided # by the '/usr/sbin/tcpd' server. # [root@dell etc]# more hosts.deny # # hosts.deny This file describes the names of the hosts which are # *not* allowed to use the local INET services, as decided # by the '/usr/sbin/tcpd' server. # # The portmap line is redundant, but it is left to remind you that # the new secure portmap uses hosts.deny and hosts.allow. In particular # you should know that NFS uses portmap! [root@dell etc]# [root@dell etc]# [root@dell etc]# cd sysconfig/ [root@dell sysconfig]# more network NETWORKING=yes HOSTNAME=dell [root@dell sysconfig]# cd networking [root@dell networking]# ls devices ifcfg-lo profiles [root@dell networking]# cd profiles [root@dell profiles]# ls default [root@dell profiles]# cd default/ [root@dell default]# ls hosts ifcfg-eth0 network resolv.conf [root@dell default]# more hosts # Do not remove the following line, or various programs # that require network functionality will fail. 127.0.0.1 dell localhost.localdomain localhost 192.168.1.2 box2 192.168.1.1 box1 [root@dell default]# more network HOSTNAME=dell [root@dell default]# more ifcfg-eth0 DEVICE=eth0 BOOTPROTO=none ONBOOT=yes USERCTL=no PEERDNS=no TYPE=Ethernet BROADCAST=192.168.1.255 NETWORK=192.168.1.0 IPADDR=192.168.1.2 NETMASK=255.255.255.0 [root@dell default]# more resolv.conf [root@dell default]# [root@dell default]#

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NewsForge presents free OpenOffice.org training videos
by Keith Watson 15 Nov '05

15 Nov '05

http://business.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/11/09/2044220 Regards, Keith ____________ Has anyone attained wisdom by pondering the experience of others? - Not since the world began, they must pass through the fire. - Norman Douglas

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Modem
by Bob Dove 15 Nov '05

15 Nov '05

Hi folks, I have a boxed hardly used fax modem that may do as a standby 'til summat better comes along. I don't have serial cable but the power brick is still with it. 14400 bps fax send and receive 14400 bps data. I might even be able to find the software (Delrina) for Win/Dos. let me know if any use... Cheers, BD.

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Timer-Based Power Management on Fedora
by Dan Hatton 14 Nov '05

14 Nov '05

I mentioned this in passing in a thread last week, so apologies to anyone who's heard it before: I'd like idle-timer-based power management on my FC4 machine, but can't get sleepd 1.2.14 to compile. Can anyone suggest how to make it work, please? The details: If I point my CPATH at the apm.h and acpi.h files provided by my kernel, running "make" in the sleepd directory fails with the series of messages cc -O2 -Wall -DACPI_APM -c -o sleepd.o sleepd.c In file included from sleepd.c:21: acpi.h:20: error: syntax error before ‘apm_info’ sleepd.c: In function ‘main_loop’: sleepd.c:132: error: ‘apm_info’ undeclared (first use in this function) sleepd.c:132: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once sleepd.c:132: error: for each function it appears in.) sleepd.c:132: error: syntax error before ‘ai’ sleepd.c:177: error: ‘ai’ undeclared (first use in this function) sleepd.c:179: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘apm_read’ sleepd.c: In function ‘main’: sleepd.c:307: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘apm_exists’ make: *** [sleepd.o] Error 1 whereas, if I point CPATH at the acpi.h and apm.h provided by sleepd, "make" fails with the slightly different series of messages cc -O2 -Wall -DACPI_APM -c -o sleepd.o sleepd.c In file included from ./apm.h:1, from ./apm.h:1, [repeated _many_times] from sleepd.c:20: ./apm.h:1:17: error: #include nested too deeply In file included from sleepd.c:21: acpi.h:20: error: syntax error before ‘apm_info’ sleepd.c: In function ‘main_loop’: sleepd.c:132: error: ‘apm_info’ undeclared (first use in this function) sleepd.c:132: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once sleepd.c:132: error: for each function it appears in.) sleepd.c:132: error: syntax error before ‘ai’ sleepd.c:177: error: ‘ai’ undeclared (first use in this function) sleepd.c:179: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘apm_read’ sleepd.c: In function ‘main’: sleepd.c:307: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘apm_exists’ make: *** [sleepd.o] Error 1 sleepd compiles out of the box on my Debian Testing machine, so it occurred to me to ftp the resulting binaries to where I want them. Unfortunately, once there, the sleepd binary refuses to run, with the error message sleepd: error while loading shared libraries: libapm.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory -- Thanks very much, Dan Hatton

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RE: [ALUG] Anyone got an old fashioned *thread hijack* *pcmcia* modemgoing spare?
by Keith Watson 14 Nov '05

14 Nov '05

> From: Steve Engledow Sent: 14 November 2005 11:54 > > >Has anyone got an old 56k capable external modem (that's serial not > >usb) lying around they'd be willing to part with for a suitable > >transfer of funds? > > I have a 56k external modem avec serial connection in a box > somewhere. > I'd tell you the make etc but I can't remember. It's blue ;) > Sounds good :o) Don't care about make or model as long as it works with GNU/Linux. Regards, Keith ____________ Whatever you turn your back on gets you in the end.

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Anyone got an old fashioned external serial modem going spare?
by Keith Watson 14 Nov '05

14 Nov '05

A friend of mine had her modem go kaput over the weekend. As her cash flow isn't the best in the world, she runs linux on an old spare parts system, hence the external modem. I've fixed her up with my old faithful modem for the time being but I'm having trouble getting a replacement. Has anyone got an old 56k capable external modem (that's serial not usb) lying around they'd be willing to part with for a suitable transfer of funds? Regards, Keith ____________ Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur. - (Whatever is said in Latin sounds profound.)

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