February 2005 - main

Tentative Kit Meet Arrangements - 20th March @ UEA
by Brett Parker 24 Feb '05

24 Feb '05

Helllllooooo List! Right, we (me, kirsten and elisabeth) have just been talking in IRC and noted that we have not had a kit meeting in *forever*, so, on that note we thought we should start planning one. How does Sunday March the 20th at the UEA sound to everyone? Cheers, -- Brett Parker web: http://www.sommitrealweird.co.uk/ email: iDunno(a)sommitrealweird.co.uk

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Yet more cheeky blagging
by Joe Button 24 Feb '05

24 Feb '05

Hi. Don't suppose anyone's got a copy of O'Reilly's Perl Cookbook they don't use, available for free or cheap? Any edition will do... Cheers, Joe x

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Slackware 10.1 and Kword
by John Seago 24 Feb '05

24 Feb '05

Has anyone else noticed an annoying little bug in the version of Kword that comes with 10.1? I print my A4 letterhead ranged, (lined up on), the right hand side of the paper, (it means that when the letter is filed in a ring binder the letter head is on the outside edge and thus more easily visible). The problem is that the last letter on each line is cut in half, this does not happen in the body of the letter, just with the heading. I've never had a bug which needed reporting to date so I'm asking if anyone else has seen it before I report it. (I've also got a spare set of 10.1 which has the same problem). -- John Seago GNU/Linux User #219566 (http://counter.li.org) AFFS (http://www.affs.org.uk/)

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Forgotten...
by Anthony Anson 22 Feb '05

22 Feb '05

Thought I'd try once more to get Wine flowing in Debian. Clicked the falling-over wineglass in the KDE menu. "You have started Wine, but we cannot find a Wine configuration file. This is normal if you have never run Wine before. If this is the case, select the 'Configure Wine' option, below, to create a configuration file." So I did. "Error: unable to find winesetup tool, please install the "winesetuptk" Debian package" I click 'okay'. "You have started Wine, but we cannot...... <mode="thinks"> Haven't we been here before? </mode> So, (please make a careful mental not of the next action...) I open the CD ROMdrawer by pressing its 'open/close' buttonand feed it the 'binary 1' CD, which fires-up nicely. Then I have have a look at what's on offer. There are two likely-looking wineglasses (toppling) in sight, both of which (but separately) I offer Debian, and both of which are declined. Any idea where I ought to look, pretty please? (And what I might have to type into a text terminal?) However, the above isn't the point of this emu: when I came to remove the CD, pressing the 'open/close' button on the drive resulted in a sullen refusal to do anything. So, I tried the CD icon in Gnome, to be told that Debian had lost the driver - and the drawer still would not open. (Kept telling me that the drive was 'busy' or similar when I clicketty-clicked its icon in the Desktop. [Do we call it 'desktop'?] ) I had to close Debian down before the CD drive would operate again. So, for a change, the 'Forgotten...' does not refer to my own dreadful memory, but to Debian's. Any thoughts, gang? -- Tony http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ The only way to tell when a Finn is in love with you is that they look at your feet instead of their own.

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Website meeting updates.
by Jonathan McDowell 22 Feb '05

22 Feb '05

Can't remember who other than Mark can make these changes, so being lazy and sending them to the list 'cos I know he's always busy. Updates for http://www.alug.org.uk/meetings/2004/ and http://www.alug.org.uk/venues/norwich.html Though actually someone wants to move /2004/ to /2005/ and have the new meetings there. Not easy to represent in a diff without knowledge of the site though. J. -- Hello.. Incontinence Hotline.. | .''`. Debian GNU/Linux Developer Can you hold? | : :' : Happy to accept PGP signed | `. `' or encrypted mail - RSA + | `- DSA keys on the keyservers.

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RE: [ALUG] Tentative Kit Meet Arrangements - 20th March @ UEA
by Keith Watson 22 Feb '05

22 Feb '05

Sounds good to me too. Venue as per the ALUG web site? Regards, Keith ____________ Those who seek the easy way do not seek the true way. - Dogen

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Re: [ALUG] Installing Linux mail
by Leon Stedman 21 Feb '05

21 Feb '05

On Sat, 19 Feb 2005, MJ Ray wrote: > > Yes this is part of what I wanted. BUT the main problem is to get it > > (Mandrake 10.1) to work at all. I used wvdial to connect to the ISP thus: > > Sorry, I can't help with that. It didn't look like it's > connecting, unless your have a very fast ISP. 3 seconds? > I think it should even log the dial attempt and it looks > like it's not even attempting. Is the modem on COM1? > > I used ppp-config in debian to set up my dialup connection > when I first installed it and have copied or edited the files > from /etc/ppp pretty much ever since. Then it's just a case of > getting the correct permissions on files in /etc/ppp/ (readable > by users, writeable only by root) and on /usr/bin/pppd (owner > root, permissions start -rws). Finally, either "pon" or "pppd > call provider" (to use details from /etc/ppp/peers/provider) > It appears (from the log) that pppd is attempting to negotiate compression with the server, which it won't accept. I will attempt to stop this when I have the time. I already use Linux to send e-mails, and use the same hardware (grub dual boot), so most things are correct. This distro is RedHat 9, and I am attempting to configure Mandrake 10.1. Many thanks. Leon.

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RE: [ALUG] Forgotten...
by Keith Watson 21 Feb '05

21 Feb '05

> From: Anthony Anson Sent: 21 February 2005 10:45 > > However, the above isn't the point of this emu: when I came to remove > the CD, pressing the 'open/close' button on the drive resulted in a > sullen refusal to do anything. So, I tried the CD icon in Gnome, to be > told that Debian had lost the driver - and the drawer still would not > open. (Kept telling me that the drive was 'busy' or similar when I > clicketty-clicked its icon in the Desktop. [Do we call it > 'desktop'?] ) > > I had to close Debian down before the CD drive would operate again. > This happens to me every now and then. I find that opening a command shell and su'ing to root then issuing "eject /cdrom" (or whatever the CD mount point is) usually works. Regards, Keith ____________ People would rather sleep through life than stay awake for it. - Edward Albee

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RE: [ALUG] Forgotten...
by Keith Watson 21 Feb '05

21 Feb '05

> From: Anthony Anson Sent: 21 February 2005 11:42 > <63F7A21F1CA18143AFDBF28E2A7D6BBAE5E132(a)endor.kewill-europe.com> > from "Keith Watson" <keith.watson(a)kewill.com> contains these words: > > > > I had to close Debian down before the CD drive would > operate again. > > > > > > This happens to me every now and then. I find that opening a command > > shell and su'ing to root then issuing "eject /cdrom" (or > whatever the > > CD mount point is) usually works. > > The words have a familiar ring to them - but I'm not up to speed at > using terminals yet, so... Easy-peasy if you're using Debian (or any one of half a dozen other distros). hold down alt and then press F1 (or F2, F3, F4.....) and a command session will appear (to get back to the desktop just hold down alt and press F7 - if you're using Debian that is :o) ). Then at the logon prompt type 'root' and at the password prompt type your root password (which I assume you know?) Type 'df' to get a list of what is mounted where. one of the lines will say something like; \dev\hdd [a number] [a number] [a number] 100% /cdrom where the first bit refers to the CD rom device (it might be hde, hdf depending on how many HDDs you have or it might be emulated as a SCSI device e.g. /dev/scd0 or /dev/scd1) the last bit on the line is the directory where your CD is mounted. so you can then enter 'eject /dev/hdd' (or 'eject /dev/scd0' or whatever depending on which device the drive is set up as) or you can enter the mount point e.g. 'eject /cdrom' (I prefer this as I can never remember what device the CD drive is but I can remember where it's mounted :o) ) then when you're finished just type 'logout' (or hold down ctrl and press D) and then alt+F7. et voila! PS when you've done this successfully at least once you can save pressure on your memory by using 'history | grep eject' to get a list from the command history where you've used this command before. Note the number before one of the commands (one that worked that is :o) ) and just type an exclaimation mark ( ! ) followed by the number to re-execute the command eg. if you get; 5 eject /cdrom 12 eject /cdrom 24 eject /cdrom you can type !5 or !12 or !24 to re-execute the command. Regards, Keith ____________ Stand still. - The trees ahead and the bush beside you are not lost. - Albert Einstein

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RE: [ALUG] Forgotten...
by Keith Watson 21 Feb '05

21 Feb '05

> From: Brett Parker Sent: 21 February 2005 15:43 > using fuser in a terminal as root. Handy tool to have laying Yes, I've often heard root users muttering "fuser" to themselves ;-) Keith

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