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wi-fi smugness :-)
by Syd Hancock 31 Jan '04

31 Jan '04

Finally, after a lot of faffing about [1] - sending from Norwich station using the BTOpenzone free trial. It's great when things finally work, isn't it! [1] mainly because the username and password that was sent to me a few days ago proved not to work... ho hum. Good ol' BT... Fortunately I was able to connect to the BTOpenzone site and re-register to get a new trial ID online. Bit faster than Home Highway, too - pity the battery is running out - oh the joys of mobile computing:-) Syd

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a wi-fi question
by Syd Hancock 31 Jan '04

31 Jan '04

Is 'Managed' mode the same as 'infrastructure' ? Syd

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Freeserve
by beneboy 31 Jan '04

31 Jan '04

Has anyone been having problems with freeserve recently? For the last week or so, some mail sent to me from another list has been bouncing with the message... The SMTP Server program > <mail(a)psychoferret.freeserve.co.uk>: site destination queue overflow Which google suggests is due to FS's spool being full up. Some of my outgoing mail hasn't turned up either, could that be the same problem? Tech support's first guess was that it was the other servers spam filter, so I've now replied explaining that it was incoming mail not outgoing...ho hum BenE (a rumour has sprung up that freeserve has implimented a swearing filter which has caused one person I know to send a nasty e-mail and cancel her acount. How I laughed)

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Hardware Modem problem
by Richard Lewis 31 Jan '04

31 Jan '04

Hello List, Ages ago I started a thread saying that I was trying to get a modem for an MDK machine; well I bought one off eBay the other day but I'm having problems setting it up and wondered whether anyone might be able to help. I've got a Lucent Venus 56KFlex Hardware PCI modem in a low spec (P166, 64Mb RAM) machine running MDK9.2 (kernel 2.4.22-10mdk). I called: # less /proc/pci and got: 00:0f.0 Communication controller: Lucent Microelectronics Venus Modem (V90, 56KFlex) Subsystem: Actiontec Electronics Inc: Unknown device 0480 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 9 Memory at ffbeb800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256] I/O ports at f800 [size=256] I/O ports at f400 [size=256] I/O ports at fff0 [size=8] Capabilities: [f8] Power Management version 2 and called: # lspci -nv and got: 00:0f.0 Class 0780: 11c1:0480 Subsystem: 1668:0480 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 9 Memory at ffbeb800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256] I/O ports at f800 [size=256] I/O ports at f400 [size=256] I/O ports at fff0 [size=8] Capabilities: [f8] Power Management version 2 So I took this information and called: # setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart 16550A port 0xf400 irq 9 and # setserial /dev/ttyS0 and got: /dev/ttyS0, UART: 16550A, Port: 0xf400, IRQ: 2 This all looked quite hopeful so I fired up KPPP (pppd version 2.4.1) and asked it to query the modem. It just said that the modem would not respond. Any ideas what might be going on? Cheers, Richard

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Norwich evening meet: thursday 12th February 2004
by Syd Hancock 31 Jan '04

31 Jan '04

The next 'second thursday' Norwich evening social meet will be on Thursday 12th February from 8pm. The venue is still being decided - more news soon with the next reminder. Syd

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For sale, sending or skipping
by MJ Ray 30 Jan '04

30 Jan '04

The following items are surplus to requirements. They are available for a small price or postage (any profit on postage will be donated to the Association For Free Software). More details on request. - Phone/modem line sharer, rings while online : 10 pounds - Printer, Canon BJ-1000, colour or mono, 720dpi IIRC, sheet feeder : 15 pounds - Speakers, unbranded, with PSU : 5 pounds - Trackball, Radioshack, serial 3-button : 10 pounds - Cables, SCSI and IDE, various : POSTAGE - Case, Microland, tower, 150W PSU, 2 drive bays and 1 caddy : POSTAGE - Covers, Belkin USB devices, various colours : POSTAGE - Heatsinks, 2 genuine Athlon MP, 1 K6/2, unused but unboxed : POSTAGE - Monitor, 12" Samtron SC-428VSL(E), can do >800x600 IIRC : COLLECT (K.Lynn) - Mouse, Logitech, serial 3-button, very robust : POSTAGE - Mouse mats, 1 black plastic and 1 grey cloth top : POSTAGE - Mouse, unbranded, PS2 5-button : POSTAGE - Printer, Canon BJ-10e, battery or mains, 360dpi IIRC : POSTAGE - Telephone, can do indirect access, 9 memories : POSTAGE - Telephone number bank, Casio DC-200, 50 number memory, antique? ;) : POSTAGE Any items still here in a month get skipped or given to charity, as appropriate. Maybe much sooner. -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and possibly not of any group I know. Please http://remember.to/edit_messages on lists to be sure I read http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ gopher://g.towers.org.uk/ slef(a)jabber.at Creative copyleft computing services via http://www.ttllp.co.uk/

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Webmail/IMAP etc.
by Chris Green 30 Jan '04

30 Jan '04

Well I'm still exploring my options. Neomail seems to be a quite reasonable Webmail program which will read one's mail from a local mail spool. I hav installed it and it's nearly working but I seem to have an issue with the perl installation at the moment. I'm waiting for my subscription to the Neomail list to become live to ask a question about it. I'm also playing on my home system. I now remember why I have previously steered away from using IMAP4, the problem is that each MUA seems to have its own view of how IMAP4 should work such that it's well nigh impossible to use an IMAP4 server with different MUAs. It turns out that the remote system where I read my mail by ssh'ing in with mutt runs an IMAP4 server, it looks like it's the same one as I have on my Slackware 9.1 system at home. I can't work out what IMAP4 server it is as the manual page doesn't tell you. I got my home one working just now by simply uncommenting the line in /etc/inetd.conf and kicking inet. Using mutt I can access all my mail perfectly, down through quite a deep hierarchy of folders, currently maildirs. This works the same from localhost and the remote system. Mozilla mail fails miserably to access the same mail, it allows me to login to the IMAP server and displays the top level folder of the hierarchy and that's it, no mail messages are visible at all. It also creates a non-existent mailbox/folder called inbox Balsa is just disastrous, it does say it's still experimental and that's the way it looks. -- Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk)

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Norwich thursday evening venues.
by Syd Hancock 29 Jan '04

29 Jan '04

Two were suggested on sunday. Both are Weatherspoons pubs so have a reasonable selection of beers, no music and good non-smoking areas. The City Gate - corner of Dereham road and the inner ring road. Large pub, tends not to get too full. Plenty of parking nearby. The Glasshouse on Magdelen street. Parking may not be so good but there is some nearby. Has a balcony and garden for the summer. Sounds very pleasant. Does it get packed out? Any comments on these two venues or preferences between them? General rumblings amongst the beer drinkers is that it's time for a change away from the Forum. Not an issue for me but quite happy to move venue to somewhere else that is suitable in the other ways after suitable discussion. Syd

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free wi-fi access this week
by Syd Hancock 29 Jan '04

29 Jan '04

BT is having a promotion this week, offering free wi-fi access at many hot spots. There are a 14 listed in Norwich alone, including the railway station (but not the library). Details and sign-up here: http://www.wirelessbroadbandweek.com/ Syd

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Why are do so many WebMail apps. use IMAP?
by Chris Green 29 Jan '04

29 Jan '04

I've been pottering about some ideas I have for making my mail systems work better together and one of the areas I've been looking at is WebMail applications. Why is it that so many of them use IMAP as the source of the mail they allow you to access? It seems pointless as the whole idea of IMAP is to provide remote access to your E-Mail. If you have a mail client which can read mail using IMAP then you don't need WebMail at all do you? Apart from anything else WebMail tends to be slower and is an unfamiliar interface. Some E-Mail clients even handle POP3 mailboxes 'remotely' quite successfully. (I think it's either xfmail or xcmail that does this) It would make much more sense if WebMail applications allowed you to access mailboxes that *aren't* normally readable remotely. I suppose that a WebMail application means it's easier to access your mail from somewhere that doesn't have your own MUA but that's about all it does. What I'd find really useful is a WebMail application that will let me read a tree of mbox mailboxes on a remote server. -- Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk)

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