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Anyone tried out Red Hat 8.0 or Mandrake 9.0 yet?
by Keith Watson 11 Oct '02

11 Oct '02

Both of these distro's seem to be getting good write ups wrt their ease of installation with some articles (see www.theregister.co.uk) even suggesting they are now serious challengers to MS Windows. I wondered if anyone in ALUG has any practical experience of these yet? By the way, spent an evening playing around with installing Woody last night. Very impressed, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone who didn't have at least a smattering of technical knowledge of unix or pc hardware, but, personally, I found it installed very smoothly except for insisting I should install ISDN support (even though I don't have ISDN!? or, at least, I don't think I have :o) ) and producing a very bizarre XF86Config file. Both of these were fairly easily dealt with and everything else ran quite happily, I suspect I'd unintentionally selected some unwanted options somewhere along the line. Keith ____________ A leader is not the leader, therefore he is called leader. D.T. Suzuki (par)

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Re: [Alug] NTL Broadband
by Ricardo Campos 11 Oct '02

11 Oct '02

ref: http://lists.linuxemporium.co.uk/pipermail/lbc/2001-October/008807.html I think that it is pump that is at fault here. That would explain why ipcop could connect fine. However, it doesn't explain why the debian box wouldn't work whilst routing through the ipcop machine. confusering. :/ -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] re microsoft invasion and NTL broadband
by Ricardo Campos 11 Oct '02

11 Oct '02

> I think the MAC address NTL want is the one on their > modem not the one in your PC - I now found out the > modem signal is 20db down so they're sending out an > engineer. I use a set top box! I think there may be a problem with the dhcp client I was using- but I have no time to check this, as it is the weekend, and time for fun rather than work! -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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re microsoft invasion and NTL broadband
by tom potts 11 Oct '02

11 Oct '02

Thanks for the broadband info. I think the MAC address NTL want is the one on their modem not the one in your PC - I now found out the modem signal is 20db down so they're sending out an engineer. Re M$ - I have slagged them off for years for lock-in but I would recommend anyone who does internet programming to have a very good look at .NET And then at http:\\www.go-mono.com If they (or someone else) can provide the .NET framework for apache2 and a nice IDE no workstation in any business with an IT aware staff will ever need to upgrade their workstations again. The last bit is a bit much to ask but M$ have produced the technology that will kill them! LOL Tom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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Meeting at London Linux Expo?
by MJ Ray 11 Oct '02

11 Oct '02

The London Linux Expo is next week, Wednesday and Thursday, probably http://www.linuxexpo.co.uk/ or similar. Previous years, ALUG people have met up around lunchtime for a (not so) swift drink in the pub over the road. Can I suggest that we continue the tradition and meet up at 1pm on the Thursday by the Association For Free Software and Debian stands? (If someone wants to arrange a Wednesday meet-up, feel free, but I can't as I'm not there...) MJR

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Re: [Alug] NTL Broadband
by Ricardo Campos 10 Oct '02

10 Oct '02

> I got round this by taking out my second Ethernet card so I only had the one. I only have 1 at the moment. > I then got all the software I needed ie. DHCPCD. Put the other ethernet card back in and it all stated to work. I tried dhcp-client, but that didn't get any info at all! :'( . Did you install dhcpd from source? I could always d/l source using windoze, and then mount the 'doze partition and get the source from there. This linux box (perhaps I'll worry about the ipcop one later) doesn't need to be a dhcp server, just a client. /me is confused, frustrated etc. -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] NTL Broadband
by Ricardo Campos 10 Oct '02

10 Oct '02

And to provide a little more info on the problem.... I use pump as it was (for whatever reason) installed with Debian Woody. Changing my dhcp client would require a net connection.... One thing I found out (by STFW: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/28208) was that Linux broadcasts it's MAC address in a different way to Windoze, so the suggestion was to reset the set top box, bring up the interface, then re-register on NTL. Fine, only there's a problem. I wish to use a dedicated router/firewall (www.ipcop.org). I'm fine with transferring NICs between computers, however the ipcop box *could* ping outside (having transferred the NIC, and resolve hosts. So that kinda throws that theory away. Unfortunately, clients on the internal network can't resolve hosts or ping outside going through the ipcop firewall. (also, ipcop has now browser capable of doing the register process anyway. in fact, it comes with no browser). I know the wordwrap is fscked, btw, as soon as I get connected in linux I'll use a proper mail reader. -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] NTL Broadband
by Ricardo Campos 10 Oct '02

10 Oct '02

> I've had NTL broadband installed and, for the life of > me, cant get anything other than W2K/IE5.5 to connect > to it properly. > The Linux box gives me an IP/DNS and gateway from DHCP > but doesnt seem to want to work. > Anybody got any clues? > Tom That's just plain spooky. Me too! lol Indeed, I get an IP address, DNS, and gateway, but it can't ping the external network, or resolve any hostnames. I've spent all day today doing this! What do you put in your hosts file when you use DHCP? i.e. my old one was something like: 127.0.0.1 localhost 10.0.0.1 pixiedust pixiedust But as I don't know my IP in advance- what should I do? Ricardo -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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NTL Broadband
by tom potts 10 Oct '02

10 Oct '02

I've had NTL broadband installed and, for the life of me, cant get anything other than W2K/IE5.5 to connect to it properly. The Linux box gives me an IP/DNS and gateway from DHCP but doesnt seem to want to work. Anybody got any clues? Tom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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Starting Open Office v1.0
by bsamuels＠beenthere-donethat.org.uk 09 Oct '02

09 Oct '02

Open Office takes one and a half minutes to start on my machine running Debian Testing. The machine has 1.3 GHz Athlons and 512MB RAM so I don't think that's the problem. Anyone else have a similar experience? Barry Samuels

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