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Re: Using NTL Broadband with Linux
by tom potts 01 Aug '02

01 Aug '02

It might be worth digging a bit deeper into the 'contract' The reason why they dont like you to use Linux is becaus Linux tends to use Masquerading rather than the Proxy that is common with W$. With Proxy they can tell how many PC's you are using on the inside at any time. Its not so easy with Linux routing/firewall so you may actually be in breach of their T&C's using it and you may be cut off as a result! That may be 'urban paranoia' but, as Laurie said, they all seem to insist on w$ on the inside. This may be due to the fact the sales staff are taps but with consume.net ramping up I think not. Can anybody get copies of the contracts for these things - they're not easy to find online? Tom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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DVD Hardware Decoders
by Daniel Simpleman 31 Jul '02

31 Jul '02

I have a P821 DVD Decoder card which is based on the ALI M3309 chipset and I was wondering if its compatible for linux its old (1999) and they dont make anymore drivers for it. They did not even make any linux drivers. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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Using NTL Broadband with Linux
by Ian Douglas 31 Jul '02

31 Jul '02

Are there any ALUG members on the list who have their Linux network connected to the internet via NTL Broadband? An NTL sales rep rang me last night trying to get me to sign up for their broadband service. Unfortunately I think he was just reading a pre-prepared script as he was unable to answer many technical questions. In particular he was adamant that their cable modem box needed to be connected to a PC running Windows 98 or higher (*NOT* Linux). Has anyone managed to get round this as I would prefer my firewall (the PC on my network which will actually be connected to the NTL box) to continue to be Linux based rather trying to find a Windows based solution. Ian.

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OFTC down?
by John Woodard 29 Jul '02

29 Jul '02

I cannot get any response from the OFTC web site or irc server, does anybody know something that I don't? -- Cheers, BJ

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installing from cover CDs
by Glen Tyler 29 Jul '02

29 Jul '02

Hi All, I know that cover CD's seem to cause much furrowing of brows but..... Although I have been toying with linux for nearly a year, I have just used RedHat up until now. So I thought that I might get a lightweight distro from the covers of Linux Format. Gentoo and The LRS distros look interesting, but how are they installed? If I burn the iso image onto CD what do I do next?. When I installed RedHat I remember that I had to make a floppy with the boot image to launch the installer, but where would I get that from for these OSs? Although I've looked at the disc and mags there does not seem to be an idiots guide to this (which is what I need). I like to find things out for myself if possible - but don't know where to go from here. what I need is a simple instruction list something like.. 1) burn the gentoo iso image file onto a CD 2) get *****.*** file onto a floppy from??? 3) boot using floppy 4) mount CD 5) start install can anyone help? Thanks Glen

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 29 Jul '02

29 Jul '02

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.openprojects.net in the #alug channel, you can take a look at www.openprojects.net to get more info on the openprojects network. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Some networking questions
by John Woodard 28 Jul '02

28 Jul '02

The story so far.... OK so as some of you are aware I have a multi box, multi OS network at home running various Unix, Win 3.11, 9x and NT systems which consists of between 2 and 8 nodes at any one time at the moment. The network will never have more than 10 boxes (rash statement I know). I have loads of questions about the best way to get this up and running so here is some info to give some background on what I have and what I need. The LAN is connected to the outside world via an ISDN router which has a fixed IP address of 192.168.0.50 the rest of the nodes have fixed addresses in the range 192.168.0.0 to 192.168.0.10 and a sub net mask of 255.255.255.0. The Win boxes can all see each other and can print to each others printers via MS file and Printer sharing. One Linux box can be seen the Windows boxen via a very rudimentary Samba set up but Linux cannot see, share files or print to the Win boxen. The *nix boxes can all ping one another but I don'tknow how to share files or printers between them. What I'd like to do is have one Linux box as my gateway to the net acting as a mail server, firewall and maybe a web cache for all the other nodes on the LAN and to be able to print and share files from/to any box or printer. I'm presuming that because its just a small workgroup peer to peer network that I won't be needing a DNS server an will keep the IP addresses staticly assigned. What is the best way to setup a mail server, I have multiple accounts? Fetchmail/sendmail or are there better alternatives? What is the easiest way to share files between Linux boxes? -- Cheers, BJ

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xterm meta key
by Adrian F. Clark 26 Jul '02

26 Jul '02

Please save from tearing out what little hair I have left! I'm trying to make a Debian (woody) installation let me delete the previous word in an xterm (using tcsh) by typing meta-backspace, i.e. just like the Emacs keystroke. But it's not playing ball. It's actually pretty weird as I've never had this trouble under RedHat or SuSE (or SunOS, come to that). Relevant information: o xrdb -query reports (among other things) xterm.eightBitInput: true o I have no bindkey commands in my .cshrc and no ~/.tcshrc file o A short Tk script shows that backspace generates keycode 22 I thought I'd just need to say bindkey "M-^H" backward-delete-word in my .cshrc but that doesn't work. Any suggestions? ..Adrian -- Dr Adrian F Clark WEB: http://esewww.essex.ac.uk/~alien/ EMAIL: alien(a)essex.ac.uk TEL: +44 1206 872432 FAX: +44 1206 872900 PAPER: VASE Lab, Dept ESE, University of Essex, Colchester, CO4 3SQ, UK

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Re:
by Kelly Ash 26 Jul '02

26 Jul '02

On Wednesday 24 July 2002 12:21 pm, you wrote: > Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:21:37 +0000 > From: Alexis Lee <lxs(a)sdf-eu.org> > To: Kelly Ash <LadySpudz(a)HotPop.com> > Subject: Re: [Alug] Seeing double > Message-ID: <20020724112137.A12040(a)sdf-eu.org> > Reply-To: lxs(a)ikitten.co.uk > > Hi Kelly, > > Try right clicking the applet. If that doesn't work, hold down CTRL or > ALT and try it. > > Your questions have hit the list three times now... please don't do > this. We do have lives of our own (of a sort, anyway), so we won't > always reply immediately. > > > Alexis Have right clicked and tried both Ctrl and Alt but none of those give me the option to delete/remove the panel. I apologize for the questions showing up 3 times. I must have missed a list somewhere in changing my email address. I wasn't expecting immediate answers from anyone, I hadn't received a list that showed my posts and thought I may have typed the 'Main' address incorrectly or had a problem with my connection and it hadn't gotten sent at all. Put a black mark by my name in the club book and I'll try my best to see it doesn't happen again ;-) Kelly

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Mandrake install
by Russell Ward 26 Jul '02

26 Jul '02

During my latest attempt to install Mandrake Linux, I mistakenly opted for KDE, which my old system doesn't seem to handle (lots of harddrive noises and takes ages for anything to show). It automatically tries to load a GUI when I login, and I can't see how to revert to a command-line to try and edit some config file. Ctrl-Alt-Bckspc eventually closes the GUI but it then loads up again before I can key in anything else. I would like to use IceWM or Sawfish (less resource demanding? and WMaker didn't appear to be offered during the install). Any ideas please? (The GUI never loads fully so I can't access any config tools that way.) I would prefer not to reinstall (about 5 times now), and feel I am getting somewhere, at least in terms of basic Linux knowledge(ie noway am I going to revert to a previous OS). Fuller report on my experiences as a newbie when I get the machine to do some work! Cheers Russell _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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