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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 22 Jul '02

22 Jul '02

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.openprojects.net in the #alug channel, you can take a look at www.openprojects.net to get more info on the openprojects network. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server uk.openprojects.net" or "/server eu.openprojects.net" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Re: [Alug] DVD Playing
by Ricardo Campos 22 Jul '02

22 Jul '02

> I remember a discussion at the last meet about playing DVDs and someone > recommending Xine as a player. I have had a go at setting this up and it > complains saying it won't play encrypted DVDs even with libdvdcss > installed. > > Has anyone else got this working? If so what did you have do do? I found xine hokey, personally. I found OGLE to be far more reliable in it's support for DVD's, menus, etc. But then again it doesn't play mpegs or avi's. Maybe try an older version of libdvdcss- for some reason the newest one doesn't work for me, but the old one does! Also, your DVD might need to be set rw, I can't play encrypted DVD's without it being rw for the user in question. Hope that helps. Ricardo -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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DMA and Bus Hogging?
by Steve Fosdick 22 Jul '02

22 Jul '02

Thanks for the info on DVD playing. I now have another issue for people to ponder... I have a SCSI CD-Writer and if I run digital audio extraction on that at the same time as trying to do something with the hard disk, programs trying to use the hard disk seem to be made to wait for the CD Writer, i.e wait until the end of the track being extracted, and in syslog I get a series of messages like this: Jul 21 23:04:29 pelvoux kernel: hdb: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy } Jul 21 23:04:34 pelvoux kernel: ide0: reset: success My initial guess as to what is happening is that the SCSI card is hogging the PCI bus and preventing any commucication withe IDE controller. This is the second time I have come accross problems with things getting in each other's way - the other one was with video capture. In that case I thought turning on DMA so hard disk writes would be faster wold improve vide capture but actually resulted in many more lost frames than driving the hard disk in PIO mode. So, can anyone confirm from the little information I have here that this indeed a PCI bus sharing problem or suggest what it might be instead. Either way can anyone think of a software solution to it? Steve.

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Re: [Alug] DVD Playing
by Ricardo Campos 21 Jul '02

21 Jul '02

> So in your opinion ogle is a better alternative? Or are there other players I > should be looking at? For DVD playing, I think Ogle is best. I personally use xine, but just for divx, avi and mpeg. (you could also check out mplayer too) -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] DVD Playing
by Ricardo Campos 21 Jul '02

21 Jul '02

> I have had a go at setting this up and it > complains saying it won't play encrypted DVDs even with libdvdcss > installed. Just been looking at my notes- I found that although the make install went 'OK' it HADN'T copied the files to /usr/lib/ (on Debian). Perhaps check that. If not, run xine from the terminal and give us some error messages! --in fact, I'm just rebuilding my machine after my HD crash. I need to add dvd support... --back! I needed to: 1.download libdvdcss-0.0.3-ogle3 from: http://cambuca.ldhs.cetuc.puc-rio.br/~jcm/skyblade/XINE-0.9.06/source.TAR.B… 2.apt-get install ogle-mmx ogle-gui 3.bunzip2 libdvdcss; tar -xvf libdvdcss ; ./configure ; make ; make install 4. cd libdvdcss/lib/ 5. cp * /usr/lib 6. chmod 666 /dev/hdc 7. mount /cdrom 8. open ogle, open /cdrom and watch Crounching Tiger. Unfortunately, xine still doesn't play them. Maybe you need to put the .so 's elsewhere. -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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DVD Playing
by Steve Fosdick 21 Jul '02

21 Jul '02

I remember a discussion at the last meet about playing DVDs and someone recommending Xine as a player. I have had a go at setting this up and it complains saying it won't play encrypted DVDs even with libdvdcss installed. Has anyone else got this working? If so what did you have do do? Steve.

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RE: [Alug] Networking Problem
by Jonathan Dye 21 Jul '02

21 Jul '02

Looks like my first email never made it so i'll try again. > Hi folks, > > I got a new PC today and have been busy beavering away > installing Linux on > its hard disk and setting it up to dual boot. Everything > seems to have gone > smoothly apart from my ethernet connection (Realtek RTL8139). I had lots of problems with my RTL8139 based board under kernels 2.4.3 to about 2.4.16. It all seems to be fine now I'm running 2.4.18. > Jul 13 22:15:16 chocchip kernel: 8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.24 > Jul 13 22:15:16 chocchip kernel: eth0: RealTek RTL8139 Fast Ethernet at > 0xd4a16000, 00:10:dc:1f:95:78, IRQ 18 > Jul 13 22:15:16 chocchip kernel: eth0: Identified 8139 chip type > 'RTL-8139B' > Jul 13 22:15:16 chocchip kernel: eth0: Setting half-duplex based on > auto-negotiated partner ability 0000. I get this too even thought my card works fine. I got something slightly different with the broken drivers in the earlier kernels. Doing a diff between the earlier drivers and the one I have now shows that some code changed around this and the changelog says something about some cards being broken. JD _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service

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AHA!
by Kelly Ash 20 Jul '02

20 Jul '02

I am sending this from within LINUX!! Woooohoooo!! *bg* I had gone into the BIOS and made the first "boot-from" CD (It previously was floppy) in order to install from the CD's. When I couldn't get it to boot at all after the install (and it asked me to insert a non-existent floppy) I went back into the BIOS and changed to to boot first from the IDE and I am. Don't know if it was the right thing to do or not, hope someone tells me, but it worked and I'm now a happy camper 'cuz I can fiddle around with Linux the rest of this afternoon! I also had put the first CD back in before that and chose "Help" then picked re-install boot loader. But no, Steve, I don't know which one it uses (I'm guessing there's probably a way I can find out) it just goes along on it's own. In my reference book it says the two you mentioned, LILO and Grub but then tells me not to concern myself with it if I'm doing a 'recommended' install, which I did. Just off the bat, is there a way I can get another email address to use for Linux? I don't want to get my current mail here right at this point because of no HTML. Will get around to changing all that later. Steve- I'm in Caister (near Yarmouth)..... is there a "member" page on the ALUG site that I've missed where you could fill in this sort of info? I'm off to poke around **soo excited** and start my list of questions! Kelly

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Heeeelp!
by Kelly Ash 20 Jul '02

20 Jul '02

Anybody out there?? Hope so! It's me..Kelly...using an old hotmail addy for the moment. Did my install this morning, went smooth as far as I could tell. Got to the very end and I clicked "OK" to reboot. Supposedly I was supposed to get a choice of either Windows or Linux (If I haven't wiped out my Windows hd that is *g*). But all I get is a black screen with: MBR Error 3 MBR Error 3 MBR Error 1 Press any key to boot from floppy. As it zipped through the steps during the install it didn't ask me once to insert a floppy! If I click any key after the last bit up there I just get: 'MBR Error 2-Press any key to boot from floppy. I've got a number here somewhere that someone (would be nice if I could remember a name!) gave me in case of problems but will check back in email a couple times first even if I DO find it, lol. The cc's are to the only addy's I could find right now for ALUG, and ones I THINK I know. We'll see how close I get *g* Thanks! Kelly _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

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Meeting Report for 14 July 2002
by MJ Ray 19 Jul '02

19 Jul '02

ALUG met on Sunday 14th July at the North Lynn Discovery Centre in King's Lynn. Attendees included John Woodard, Jen Hopkins, johnboy(!?), Keith Watson, Dave Griffiths, Dennis Dryden, MJ Ray, Brett Parker, James Taylor & Karen Maltby. Kit Debugging --------------------- USB mice - can anyone help get a wireless Logitech iTouch black mouse working? Alug promo - what should we do different? --------------------- * Announce meetings to local papers * List more in linux mags * More themed meetings * Future meetings: - Bbq@Syleham - Edu or dev?@Elmswell: ask Rob - Install@uea: ask James or David * New venue? Watch this space Printing info --------------------- * MJR gave a short talk off the top of his head: details to be added to the web site contrib area. Ipaq speech synth demo --------------------- * Thanks to Jen for bringing the ipaq, and Dennis for use of his laptop Adjourned to a local(ish) beer garden for drink and chat =========================

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