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Re: [Alug] glutton for punishment.... (debian)
by Ricardo Campos 27 May '02

27 May '02

> I've just added some stuff to http://www.alug.org.uk/contrib/?TipsTricksAndWorkarounds > YAY!!!!! Another contributor! I was just checking about the nv drivers, since I wasn't sure if the deb way was much different, and whether nv was supported in a separate server package (like S3 is). I'm hoping to scp some of the packages from one machine to the new one. In the meantime, I can complain all about it on IRC tonight (haa haa). Now all I have to do is figure out the partitioning and mounting... ick. Do people think it's worth having /usr/ on a separate partition? I already have /home/ on a different one (so I can chown it if I change distro-which is exactly what I'm doing). -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Licensing for possibly orphaned Deb
by Alexis Lee 27 May '02

27 May '02

I've always had a sig generator, but until recently it was raw homebrew stuff. Then I found the Signify package, but it didn't do quite what I wanted, so I hacked another feature into it. I emailed the author to tell him about the change, but he didn't respond. The other thing is that the package is public domain, and I'd rather have my work under a license. My understanding of public domain is that anyone can do anything they want with it, including add their own license to it. So, although I realise this is untenably rude if the author is still out there, I'm considering GPL'ing and adopting the package. Is this legal, first of all? Am I breaking the 'all linked code must be GPL' in reverse? I don't think I am, because his code will be available more freely than GPL. Second, what criteria need to be met for a package to be orphaned? Bear in mind I've only just started USING Debian, let alone packaging, so all advice and webpages welcome. Alexis -- Failure- When your best just isn't good enough. For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong. - H L Mencken

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Re: [Alug] glutton for punishment.... (debian)
by Ricardo Campos 27 May '02

27 May '02

> I avoid the stock 2.4.* kernels (but use the kernel-source-) because I'm > not a fan of initrd, and I prefer the serious stuff compiled-in rather > than as modules. make-kpkg is well worth using. I remember compiling from source a while back, and not using a ramdisk. The system wasn't a great fan of that... It would hang indefinitely if I tried to copy large files... yuk. Still, this time I'll have a dmesg from a 2.4.9 kernel to use as a guide. Anyone know which x package a geforce2mx videocard (usually nv driver)will need? (Seeing as it will probably need to be gotten manually). Also, is there a virtual package for gnome? i.e. to set up a whole gnome desktop, without individually d/l loadsa different packages. -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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glutton for punishment.... (debian)
by Ricardo Campos 27 May '02

27 May '02

I have decided to completely remove Windows from my machine and install Debian. (yay). Problem: I need a 2.4.x kernel to support my hardware (USB stuff, I also like iptables). I noticed that there is a kernel-image-2.4.18-k7 package, although I'm not sure whether to just d/l the source and use make-kpkg. Anyone have any hints? -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 27 May '02

27 May '02

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.openprojects.net in the #alug channel, you can take a look at www.openprojects.net to get more info on the openprojects network. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server uk.openprojects.net" or "/server eu.openprojects.net" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Re: [Alug] OKIOFFICE 84
by MJ Ray 26 May '02

26 May '02

> Oh dear, this does pose a problem. Well tried the generic PCL and PS no > luck, then tried oki4w still no luck. This could be the deciding point of > not using Linux as my desktop :( I will plod on trying to find a solution, > which may be hard as a newbie. Any thoughts guys please shout, and no one > say buy a new printer, it ain't a possibility. Cheers for your time Mark. I assume it's too late to return the thing as "not fit for purpose" or some such? I see you're already active on the linuxprinting.org lists. I guess you probably checked cups.org and found no drivers available there either. Are you able to see on the device or in the manuals if the printer part is the same as any other standalone printer? What bad output did you get with your tests? If no output, are you sure it's actually communicating with the printer? Worst case scenario, does anyone know if it's possible to talk to this thing via a Windows system? It's a shame, but I'd hate to see it stop you using GNU/Linux at all. Actually, it's not a shame: it's a bloody nuisance. You should be very very angry about these devices. It's not like we're short of printer protocols. -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] debian upgrade woes-FIXED! (ish)
by Ricardo Campos 26 May '02

26 May '02

>Unfortunatly, stable softwares are way behind the > latest. So the > path goes like this: > > Stable > Testing > Unstable Can I rename them Stable > ConfuZing > Unusable ???????? teehee ;-) OK, so I'm typing this on my now half-testing, half stable debian box. It's taken me 12 hours!!! I NEVER want to go through that again. Anyhoo, this is what I did: I looked at www.moof.org.uk, it gave me some ideas. It wasn't the config at all. dist-upgrade had removed various packages, seeming almost f***ing randomly. The clue was all the "rc"s dpkg -l gave. I actually totally reinstalled stable, and tried again. This time I just updated bits and bobs, I kept the output of my old dpkg -l on a floppy, and compared to the new (also broken) system. To cut a very long story short, I manually installed all the "rc"d packages beginning with the letter x! It also removed all gnome packages, xdm etc. grrr and humbug. But now I have x working. :D Now to get some apps working... Many thanks to all& their suggestions! -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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OKIOFFICE 84
by Jamie French 25 May '02

25 May '02

Well guys, I am defeated. I found some drivers for GDI printers, OKI4LINUX, but I could not get my printer to even blink. So back to windoze :( Take Care, J

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Mandrake with Nvidia
by Jamie French 24 May '02

24 May '02

Hi All, I heard someone saying they where experiencing issues with mdk and nvidea at the Sylham meeting, I think it may on been BJ's son? I have attached a URL which may or may not help. http://www.linuxnewbie.org/nhf/intel/distros/mandrake/mdk_nvidia.html Take Care, J

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Install day 2k2 - first report
by MJR-mobile 24 May '02

24 May '02

We've just counted up & we think we had 12 people. One install took place and there were at least 2 new faces. More when I get home! MJR -- MJR

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