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Being ordered to do silly things at work/passwords
by tom potts 22 Jan '02

22 Jan '02

> > I agree... but the power that be have decided!!! I think it's stupid, >> but a mere mortal.... >You do it, the server gets owned and you get >dismissed for incompetence. >You don't do it, you get a warning for disobediance. Which is better? --------------------------------------------------- e-mail boss with reasons for not doing it - keep copy for self. Make sure you get order to do it in some written form (this normally makes tham wake up to their stupidity). Do work as instructed. If the server gets owned and you get fired then a tribunal will be on your side for 'constructive dismissal' and you'll get a few pennies for a nice self-training course. --------------------------------------------------- On the subject of passwords there is almost no safe/achievable way of doing this. If theres money involved I'd ensure one to one communication via snail mail with signatures - get them to agree to your site terms and conditions before you let them use it - if you are providing passwords. Or let them register themselves but again you'll need paper proof of their ID before you match them to any 'account'. Digital Sigs are now legal in the EU but I doubt if anyone uses it yet Tom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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RE: [Alug] kppp
by Ricardo Campos 22 Jan '02

22 Jan '02

> On the other hand, on my Red Hat machine, the equivalent to kppp > is 'rp3' (which may be a GNOME thingy, though I suspect that "rp3" > is short for "Red Hat ppp"); and its config program is 'rp3-config'. > Once 'rp3' has been configured for any user, then that user can just > use it. However, configuring 'rp3' means running 'rp3-config' and > this will certainly ask for the root password (and quit if it > doesn't get it). > > All of which makes me wonder whether you're really using 'kppp': > maybe what you're getting is 'rp3'? Well, I'm writing this using my RedHat box.... I had no joy with Kppp. There were no man pages, and the KDE help didn't.;-) I then tried rp3. If I went thru rp3, I had no luck (I had ppp0 and loopback as choices). Going through the configurator through *that* didn't help, even if I added a new account. I then invoked rp3-config directly, set up a new interface and voila... seems that you have to do it directly! (it's the only thing I did different, and that's a bug IMO) So now all I need to do is put my favourite progs on the RH machine. Many thanks for the help! Ricardo _______________________________________________ "There are several codes, and I know several of them." -Mr. Precise. http://www.rscampos.net Check my online diary out: http://www.rscampos.net/blog.html -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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kppp
by Ricardo Campos 21 Jan '02

21 Jan '02

I'm trying out RedHat 7.2 and stumbled upon 2 problems relating to ppp, specifically kppp. 1) although I can connect using kppp from KDE, there appears to be no data transfer when I attempt to look at a website. (I suspect that I have to manually add my DNS servers' IP addresses, perhaps I accidentally put in my own IP address as the primary DNS server or something during installation-duh) 2) OK, if I do run kppp as someone other than root, it asks for root's password. How could I set it up so that I don't need to run a connection as root? It doesn't do it in Mandrake. I am actually gonna write a little report comparing my experiences with Mandrake and Redhat once I've given RH enough chance- all from the POV of a newbie and "Harry Home-User". (I'll post the URL when it is done). Initial thoughts on RH7.2: bloody hell, that's a bit slick!!! ;) Ricardo _______________________________________________ "There are several codes, and I know several of them." -Mr. Precise. http://www.rscampos.net Check my online diary out: http://www.rscampos.net/blog.html -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] Password script?
by MJ Ray 21 Jan '02

21 Jan '02

Ted Harding: > > $ for user in `cat usernames`; do usermod -p $user $user; done > Not sure this will help, since it looks as though the password > argument to usermod -p has to be already encrypted: Thanks to Adam: for user in $(cat usernames); do usermod -p $(mkpasswd $user aa) $user done -- MJR

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Password script?
by Simon 21 Jan '02

21 Jan '02

Hi, does anyone know of, or can help me. I need a script/prog to change about 3500 users passwords to their usernames ??? Please!!??? Simon

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Lzip (humour?)
by Ricardo Campos 21 Jan '02

21 Jan '02

LOL need an alternative to bzip2/ gunzip? Why not try Lzip-the lossy compression program- "On the reassuring side, it is important to note that the compression algorithm used by lzip only discards the unimportant data. And if it was unimportant before, what makes it so important now? Huh?" http://lzip.sourceforge.net/faq.html Ricardo _______________________________________________ "There are several codes, and I know several of them." -Mr. Precise. http://www.rscampos.net Check my online diary out: http://www.rscampos.net/blog.html -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] Password script?
by MJ Ray 21 Jan '02

21 Jan '02

Simon: > I agree... but the power that be have decided!!! I think it's stupid, > but a mere mortal.... You do it, the server gets owned and you get dismissed for incompetence. You don't do it, you get a warning for disobediance. Which is better? ;) -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] Password script?
by Lincoln, Michael C 21 Jan '02

21 Jan '02

NO NO NO NO NO NO.. I don't think you don't want to do that. And you certainly don't want to tell the world! Look at an automated password generator like apg. It will automatically generate passwords for you. You can then send them out the the users by whatever means you like. http://freshmeat.net/projects/apgd/ Mike On Mon, 2002-01-21 at 12:03, Simon wrote: > Hi, > does anyone know of, or can help me. I need a script/prog to change about > 3500 users passwords to their usernames ??? > > Please!!??? > > Simon > > _______________________________________________ > main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > http://www.anglian.lug.org.uk/ > http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main > Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above!

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Re: Re[2]: [Alug] My new machine (If anyone's interested)
by Ricardo Campos 21 Jan '02

21 Jan '02

> I've not seem them that cheap. Is it possible to get a hardware modem for > that price? I don't think so! I chose to spend more on an external, hardware modem in order to release some CPU. After all, it's only £20, which is translated into beer is only one night out. Besides, it's a groovy green colour. Ricardo -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 21 Jan '02

21 Jan '02

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.openprojects.net in the #alug channel, you can take a look at www.openprojects.net to get more info on the openprojects network. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server uk.openprojects.net" or "/server eu.openprojects.net" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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