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Re: [Alug] Locked directories - Sympathy
by Edenyard 25 Oct '01

25 Oct '01

Sorry - sent this to the wrong place first time around! For what it's worth (probably not a lot...), I ended up with Slackware 8.0 and Mandrake Freq on one machine for comparison. Speaking as a complete non-Linux-expert, I found the only saving grace of Mdk was that it worked my borrowed USB camera, whereas Slack wouldn't. Some of Mdk's MORE frustrating habits included secretly writing to my OKI LED printer and re-arranging settings that I perfected years ago and then claiming that it was something it wasn't, and also inviting me to select what packages I'd like installed and then not bothering to install them. Slack, on the other hand, went in, got on, and generally did its bit. Thanks to John Seago's timely intervention, I discovered that early problems I was having were due to duff disks from Crazy Penguin. Linux Emporium did me much better!! I elected to install KDE on Slackware but soon began to hate its bloat. Then I discovered ICEWM and there was no looking back. Partly due to the very good documentation on how to configure ICEWM files, even I was able to get it to work and add my own favourite functions. If I can, anyone can. And ICEWM is FAST, even on an ex-skip P166! So Slack+ICEWM gets my vote (speaking as a beginner, remember). One or two people are gradually trying to steer me down the path of recompiling a kernel to get USB to work with Slack. I lay awake at night worrying about that, but at least I've got a Linux that works, enables me to run Netscape, Acrobat, Xv and things and start the learning process. Oh, yes - and ALWAYS have MC installed. Darned useful for poking about to see how Linux works. Hope this helps someone! Please delete it if it doesn't.... Gerald.

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Re: [Alug] Locked directories - Sympathy
by MJ Ray 25 Oct '01

25 Oct '01

Adam Bower: > I've just had it pointed out that I have now indeed completely lost the > plot. That should read "luser attitude readjustment tool" never mind, the > correct authoritys have been informed that I am now completely mad. Or drunk amazingly early in the afternoon? ;-) Anyway, for more definitions, try http://www.foldoc.org/ (I think... offline just now, so haven't verified http://foldoc.doc.ic.ac.uk/ for sure?) MJR

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Re: [Alug] ALUG Meeting.. problem..
by MJ Ray 25 Oct '01

25 Oct '01

Simon Parkes: > But I have a cunning plan, we can use the Cinema at my parent place in > Cheveley (5 mins down the road), all organised if everyone is ok with > that... Bonus, in true Linux tradition, it's free (and there's a sauna and > pool available if anyone wants to refresh themselves)... Anyway over to you > guys. Sounds like a bonus to me. Can we have new directions, etc, please? Now, you see, I hadn't updated the ALUG web site because I knew something like this was going to happen... honest! MJR, lying through his teef.

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Re: [Alug] Locked directories - Sympathy
by Ricardo Campos 25 Oct '01

25 Oct '01

> I am using Mandrake 8.0 .I thought it might have >something to do with the auto mounting facility >(supermount) but can't find anything Well, I'm trying on MDKexpert, but I'm not holding my breath. I've seen more probs with MDK on e-lists and forums than any other distro, but then I spose it *does* attract newbies. >I am literally at the point of changing back to Suse At the moment in other browser windows, I am looking at Slackware and Debian on Cheeplinux.com . If you want something done properly, do it yourself. (stop sniggering you lot- at least I'll LEARN how to do it properly) >(you're right, I don't have any patience) My reasoning for Deb or Slackware is that the more you're hand is held along the way, the less able you are to fix it when it goes wrong. >(read- I'm afraid of making myself > look a pratt!)!!!!!!!!!!! :<)) I already have! :) But then I have no shame, and besides, that's the only way I learn. It makes the experts look good too! ;) Luckily there have been some people on-list who have given me some excellent pointers- not just RTFM, but "this is how to find the manual, and this is how to read it". So... thanks y'all for your patience!!! Linux is a minefield of distro's, each with their own peculiarities, and I have found almost guaranteed that things are never where they are meant to be- even in distro-specific documentation. (although my experience is only RH6.1 and MDK8.0) > I'd be grateful to know if you do 'sort' the problem. I'll try disabling supermount, and mount manually. Other than that.... ?????????????? :) "There are several codes, and I know several of them." -Mr. Precise. http://www.rscampos.net -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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by tom potts 25 Oct '01

25 Oct '01

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Locked directories - Sympathy
by KEV＠hartmann.dk 25 Oct '01

25 Oct '01

Hi Ricardo, I can't help you but I can offer sympathy. I have almost precisely the same problem as you and have hunted hi and low for a resolution without success. I am using Mandrake 8.0 and have even gone so far as to reload the whole system but still with the same problem. I thought it might have something to do with the auto mounting facility (supermount) but can't find anything that supports that theory either. I am interested to note Adam's comments and will have a look this evening to see if I can change the owner of my devices. I am literally at the point of changing back to Suse (you're right, I don't have any patience) as I know I can at least use that without fundamental problems like this. I wonder how many other people experienced the same problem. Mandrakes web site doesn't seem to make any mention of it or even tell you what a locked directory is! I suppose I may have changed something inadvertently but as a 'newbie' I tend to be very careful when 'tinkering' as I know I won't be able to rectify the result if I do screw up. I am saving my requests for help from the list until I really can't get my head round something (read- I'm afraid of making myself look a pratt!)!!!!!!!!!!! :<)) I'd be grateful to know if you do 'sort' the problem. Cheers Kevvy

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Re: [Alug] locked directories -please help!
by Ricardo Campos 25 Oct '01

25 Oct '01

> what distro are you using ?? > If Mandrake try : supermount disable > > and mount manually That I will, back to the man pages! :) <mini-rant> MDK8.0 is a pile of poo :P . </mini-rant> Ricardo "There are several codes, and I know several of them." -Mr. Precise. http://www.rscampos.net -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] locked directories -please help!
by Ricardo Campos 25 Oct '01

25 Oct '01

> Try the 'dmesg' command after trying to access one of these > device as check the output of lsmod. If these don't give you > the answer then please post the output here so we can take a gander. Ok... (brace yourself!) - these are just the hdc entries, there were none for fd0. lsmod gave 'command not found'. hdc: TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-M1222, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive hdc: ATAPI 32X DVD-ROM drive, 256kB Cache, UDMA(33) hdc: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } hdc: command error: error=0x51 end_request: I/O error, dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 64 isofs_read_super: bread failed, dev=16:00, iso_blknum=16, block=32 Any help? (full o/p on request) -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] locked directories -please help!
by MJ Ray 25 Oct '01

25 Oct '01

> Ok... (brace yourself!) - these are just the hdc > entries, there were none for fd0. lsmod gave > 'command not found'. > hdc: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady > SeekComplete Error } > hdc: command error: error=0x51 > end_request: I/O error, dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 64 > isofs_read_super: bread failed, dev=16:00, > iso_blknum=16, block=32 Oh dear oh dear oh dear. The last time I saw that, the back of the drive had burnt out. Sorry. MJR

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default window manager
by Ricardo Campos 24 Oct '01

24 Oct '01

I'm trying to get X up and running on my 20MB RAM, (512kb video RAM) laptop, and thinking of maybe using blackbox as a WM (although I suspect most of my work will be done in console mode). It's a RedHat 6.1 box, and currently defaults into Gnome for it's GUI. I want to ditch that in favour of a more lightweight GUI. Where is the file that determines the default GUI when you log into X? Ricardo "There are several codes, and I know several of them." -Mr.Precise. http://www.rscampos.net -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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