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Tonidoplug
by mark fernandes (IFR) 25 Aug '09

25 Aug '09

With respect to small low powered linux servers - I did come across this beastie courtesy of LXer Linux News: "TonidoPlug is a tiny, low power, low cost home server based on 1.2 GHz Sheeva processor that allows you to access your applications, files, photos, music and media from anywhere (Powered by Tonido). TonidoPlug comes pre-installed with powerful Tonido Applications - Photos, Jukebox, Webshare, Workspace, Thots, Explorer, Torrent and Search - all running on top of embedded Ubuntu Jaunty Linux OS. Additionally, TonidoPlug can be extended by installing new applications from Tonido App store." It has a 512 Mb flash drive, Ethernet port and a USB port for additional storage for a $100. Website says currently shipping only to US :-( but shipping to other countries will open shortly (whatever that means). http://www.tonidoplug.com/tonido_plug.html http://www.linuxpromagazine.com/Online/Blogs/Productivity-Sauce-Dmitri-s-op… Hope that this is helpful, Mark

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Re: [ALUG] A low powered backup solution probably/possibly.
by James Elsey 25 Aug '09

25 Aug '09

If it were me I would certainly take the price into consideration, as it all depends on what you are backing up. If you are running a small business from home, or have documents that you can't lose then this would be a viable option. If its just personal files/photos/media, would it not be best to buy a spindle of CDs and come up with some rotation system for backup? It would have its benefits. 1. cheaper 2. less can go wrong 3. probably less prone to weathering (does the garage get extremely hot during the summer? 4. less enticing to any thieves 5. doesn't cost anything to run! Maybe I'm too naïve, but I'd favour CD/DVD media as backup over a server! J -----Original Message----- From: main-bounces(a)lists.alug.org.uk [mailto:main-bounces@lists.alug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Chris G Sent: 24 August 2009 13:39 To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk Subject: Re: [ALUG] A low powered backup solution probably/possibly. On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:36:36AM +0100, Chris G wrote: > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:34:17AM +0100, Chris G wrote: > > Synaptic, Qnap and IcyBox all offer NAS servers which handle NFS as > > Oops, that's Synology not Synaptic. > A little further research on Google (especially the reviews and comparisons found at www.smallnetbuilder.com) has led me to the Western Digital My Book World Edition II. Price for a 2Tb version of this is about £215, it has ssh access built in, no hacking needed, power consumption is 16 watts when active, 5 watts when idle. The performance is not quite as good as the top of the range Synology and Qnap ones but it's *way* cheaper. £215 for a low powered Linux box with 2Tb of storage seems excellent value to me. So I'm off to buy one and will report back when I've played with it a little (if anyone is interested). -- Chris Green _______________________________________________ main(a)lists.alug.org.uk http://www.alug.org.uk/ http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above! __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4362 (20090824) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4362 (20090824) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

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A low powered backup solution probably/possibly.
by Chris G 24 Aug '09

24 Aug '09

After all my recent maundering about there being no low powered systems suitable for backup servers I did a bit of lateral thinking and looked at NAS servers again (I had looked a couple of years ago). They have got a lot cheaper now and there seem to be two or three which offer what I'm after (specifically Linux/NFS support). Synaptic, Qnap and IcyBox all offer NAS servers which handle NFS as well as SMB shares. Synaptic and Qnap go beyond that and offer SSH access to the server, a web server, PHP/mySql and python even! It may be that the IcyBox servers do as well but I haven't investigated in detail. Power consumption is pretty low, the Synaptic DS209 for example, with two 750Gb disks claims 25 watts when active, 10 watts when idle. Prices are in the £100 to £200 range without disk drive, adding a big SATA disk will only be £70 or so. I think there will be one replacing my garage linux box quite soon and I can use the garage system as my general purpose test bed. -- Chris Green

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Any experience of the "Fit PC 2" here?
by Chris G 23 Aug '09

23 Aug '09

Does anyone here have any experience of the Fit PC 2 ? They are getting almost reasonably priced now - CPC have the Linux one for £285 (plus VAT) which for a really tiny and low powered machine isn't at all bad. Power consumption is 5 watts, it has 1Gb of memory and a 160Gb hard disk and Gigabit ethernet. It would thus seem to be quite a good basis for various Linux based "boxes on the network". It comes with Ubuntu 8.04 installed. -- Chris Green

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Maintaining music libraries in various formats
by Jon Dye 20 Aug '09

20 Aug '09

Hi all, I currently have my music collection as a bunch of mp3s, oggs or flacs on a fileserver on my home network. That's fine for me using linux to play them back but we have several devices (including Windows machines and iPods) at home that don't support either ogg or flac. I also don't really want to copy the files as flac to my mps player (my mobile phone) as they take up a lot of space so I currently transcode them to ogg or mps. Ultimately I'd like to keep everything as flac as I have lots of space so I will be gradually re-ripping stuff to flac. Because file space is cheap I had a crazy idea to keep a directory of originals on the network and then to run a periodic script to build a directory of mps3 or oggs from the originals. This would save time transcoding and would support the various devices on the network better. Has anyone heard of a scheme like this or knows of any software designed to do this. Ideally the update script would: 1. Create/Update the corresponding mp3/ogg file whenever a file in the originals directory changes (i.e. I rip a new CD) 2. Update the metadata in the originals directory whenever the metadata in a mp3/ogg directory changes. 3. Support all file formats in the originals directory (as I won't have only flacs there at the start). I suppose hard linking mp3s/oggs where relevant is therefore a good option here. I had an idea to somehow use SCons to "build" the mp3s/oggs from the flac files but that only supports requirements 1. The other option was to write a custom python (or similar) script to do it. My question is, does anyone have any suggestions for existing tools that do something similar or for ideas of how to implement what I want. JD

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Iceweasel plugin selection
by Richard Lewis 19 Aug '09

19 Aug '09

Hi ALUG, So I'm trying to get a WAV file to play in an HTML document in Iceweasel. I have an <object> with an <embed> inside it: <object classid="clsid:02BF25D5-8C17-4B23-BC80-D3488ABDDC6B" codebase="http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab" type="audio/wav" width="1" height="1" class="griller" id="griller"> <param name="AUTOPLAY" value="False" /> <param name="src" value="AK_2049_AR_12318-1.wav" /> <embed width="1" height="1" type="audio/wav" qtsrc="AK_2049_AR_12318-1.wav" src="AK_2049_AR_12318-1.wav" AUTOPLAY="False" name="griller" enablejavascript="true" /> </object> This works on Safari with the Quicktime plugin, but not on Iceweasel. I'm guessing the problem may be with the plugins Iceweasel is using. In Edit | Preferences | Applications, I can select the plugin to use for "WAV audio", but the options are only "Use Movie Player (default)", "Use Windows Media Player Plug-in (in Iceweasel)", or "Use other..." (which browses for an executable). about:plugins tells me that I have the VLC plugin installed and that it knows how to handle content of MIME type "audio/wav" or with ".wav" suffixes. I also have the mplayer plugin installed which (AIUI) pretends to be WMP and also knows how to play .wav files. Why does VLC not appear in my list of available plugins in the Preferences | Applications dialog? Is this true for others? Best, Richard -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Richard Lewis ISMS, Computing Goldsmiths, University of London Tel: +44 (0)20 7078 5134 Skype: richardjlewis JID: ironchicken(a)jabber.earth.li http://www.richard-lewis.me.uk/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- +-------------------------------------------------------+ |Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.| |http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html | +-------------------------------------------------------+

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Upsizing mdraid array
by Mark Rogers 18 Aug '09

18 Aug '09

I have a server which has 1 drive holding the O/S, and 4-off 500GB drives as two pairs of RAID1 (mdraid) arrays. I want to replace the 500GB drives with 1TB drives. What is the best way to do this? Ideally I'd do it offline, just copy (and resize) the partitions across and then put the disks back into the machine and boot it. But I don't know if there's any software that would allow me to do that. So all suggestions welcome. (I don't recall now why I have 2-off RAID1 arrays; a single RAID 5 array might be a better use of the drives, in which case the same question arises: how do I migrate to that configuration?) -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0845 45 89 555 Registered in England (0456 0902) at 13 Clarke Rd, Milton Keynes, MK1 1LG

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Re: [ALUG] Surprised by Microsoft
by MJ Ray 18 Aug '09

18 Aug '09

Wayne Stallwood <ALUGlist(a)digimatic.co.uk> [...] > I remain to be convinced that MS want to control content for it's own > sake, at the heart they are still a software giant not a media one so > their key interest is leveraging content delivery to make their software > the most attractive option. [...] One way to do that is to present yourself as the best friends of content delivery services - or broadcasters, in oldspeak. A good tactic would be to let one of your trusted leaders go work for them for a while, then appoint them back to high office in your organisation and let them give interviews saying things like "There is a growing consensus something can be done. We have to protect IP for the health of our economy. We need implementable anti-piracy measures. We can do a lot more [than the Digital Britain report proposes] if there is a will to do it." -- http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/aug/17/microsoft-ashley-highfield-inte… wouldn't it? The push for free and open source software is fast becoming about more than FOSS for the sake of freedom of computing. It's becoming a struggle between public and private benefit in access to everything from Department for the Environment presentations to BBC and ITV shows. Where is this debate happening next? -- MJ Ray (slef) LMS developer and webmaster at | software www.software.coop http://mjr.towers.org.uk | .... co IMO only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html | .... op

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Surprised by Microsoft
by Mark Rogers 18 Aug '09

18 Aug '09

I just visited a site which required Microsoft's Silverlight plugin (Ryanair's route checker). Given that I was running Firefox 3 on Ubuntu I wasn't expecting much but I clicked the "install silverlight" link anyway, and was redirected first to Microsoft and then on to the open-source Mono project and Moonlight. I knew that Moonlight existed, but I wasn't expecting that kind of endorsement from Microsoft. If this is the kind of thing that the deal between Novell (who sponsored/developed Moonlight) and Microsoft leads to then maybe my thoughts on that process have shifted a little. -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0845 45 89 555 Registered in England (0456 0902) at 13 Clarke Rd, Milton Keynes, MK1 1LG

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Does anyone get random long waits on Google?
by Chris G 17 Aug '09

17 Aug '09

For quite a while now I occasionally get a very long wait when I do a Google search. Tonight I decided to see if I could diagnose the problem at all but I haven't got very far. It seems to happen pretty randomly, every few Google searches I do I get one that takes a very long time, like a minute or more. If I hit the Firefox Stop button and try again it usually works instantly. Just now when trying to diagnose the problem I repeatedly did the same Google search, every so often (random intervals, usualyy every six or seven searches or so) it took a long time. I have the Tamper Data add-on installed in Firefox so I used that to look at the times. Most of the Google searches return in 150mS or so without much variation but the occasional slow ones vary from ten seconds or so up to a minute or so. I've tried hammering other web sites to see if I can provoke similar symptoms but I can't, it seems to be only Google that does this to me. Can anyone suggest a reason why this might be happening? (Or a way to diagnose it, all that Tamper Data is telling me is that GET is occasionally taking a very long time) -- Chris Green

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Re: [ALUG] Suspend/hibernate on a desktop system, easy?, possible?
by James Elsey 17 Aug '09

17 Aug '09

Hi Chris, You could always have a look at "Wake-on-LAN", if your garage PC is only used for backups you could leave it switched off and wake it up over LAN when you need to do a backup, either manually or via some scheduled scripts. Its worth a read if your bored! ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wake-on-LAN J -----Original Message----- From: main-bounces(a)lists.alug.org.uk [mailto:main-bounces@lists.alug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Chris G Sent: 17 August 2009 11:10 To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk Subject: [ALUG] Suspend/hibernate on a desktop system, easy?, possible? Is it possible to get a normal desktop system to suspend or hibernate when there is no activity? I'd like to get my garage backup system to use less power when it's not doing anything (which is most of the time). If specific hardware is good/easy for doing this then I'm quite happy to build a new system as I'm thinking of creating a new system for test and upgrade purposes so I could use my exisiting garage system for that. -- Chris Green _______________________________________________ main(a)lists.alug.org.uk http://www.alug.org.uk/ http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above! __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4341 (20090817) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4341 (20090817) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

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Re: [ALUG] main Digest, Vol 50, Issue 8
by Sam Tuke 17 Aug '09

17 Aug '09

I have just got back from visiting the Reindeer. I arrived there at about 20.40 and it was all closed up. Where did you chaps get to? Sam. > From: main-request(a)lists.alug.org.uk > Subject: main Digest, Vol 50, Issue 8 > To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:00:02 +0100 > > Send main mailing list submissions to > main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > main-request(a)lists.alug.org.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > main-owner(a)lists.alug.org.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of main digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. 2nd Thurs Pub Meet 13th August 2009 (Was: Re: [ALUG Announce] > 2nd Thurs Pub Meet 9th July 2009) (Srdjan Todorovic) > 2. Re: No network every time (Chris Walker) > 3. [ALUG Announce] 2nd Thurs Pub Meet 13th August 2009 (Was: Re: > 2nd Thurs Pub Meet 9th July 2009) (Srdjan Todorovic) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 09:21:35 +0100 > From: Srdjan Todorovic <todorovic.s(a)googlemail.com> > Subject: [ALUG] 2nd Thurs Pub Meet 13th August 2009 (Was: Re: [ALUG > Announce] 2nd Thurs Pub Meet 9th July 2009) > To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > Cc: Alug Announce <announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk> > Message-ID: > <a59829110908120121q33ef3e68kc0327ca2011ea0b0(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hello everyone, > > It looks as if no one has posted a message about it this month.... > > ALUG pub meet this Thursday 13th August 2009 at the usual place. > Details are as below. > > Thanks and hope to see you there, > Srdjan > > On 06/07/2009, David Reynolds <david(a)reynoldsfamily.org.uk> wrote: > > ALUG Announce > > > > Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk > > Unsub, change settings via > > http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce > > ----- > > Dear ALUG, > > The monthly second Thursday social meeting of ALUG will take place > > on 9th July 2009 at The Reindeer (10 Dereham Road, Norwich, > > NR2 4AY; tel. 01603 762223). It's very near the junction of > > Dereham Road and the Norwich inner ring road (Grapes Hill) > > and serves a selection of real ales, nice pub food (if you fancy > > going early to eat) and coffee. > > > > There are generally people there from 20:00 onwards and we tend > > to sit to the left of the main entrance. > > > > We look forward to seeing you there. > > > > Cheers, > > David > > > > -- > > David Reynolds > > david(a)reynoldsfamily.org.uk > > > > ----- > > Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) > > Unsub, change settings via > > http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:57:12 +0100 > From: Chris Walker <cdw_linux(a)the-walker-household.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [ALUG] No network every time > To: Chris Walker <cdw_linux(a)the-walker-household.co.uk> > Cc: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > Message-ID: <4A805F78.4050605(a)the-walker-household.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Chris Walker wrote: > > I've no idea what I've done recently to provoke it, but every time I > > power on my machine, it tells me there's no configured network > > interface. All I have to do to fix it, is give the root password, and > > then click ok several times until I get to 'finish'. It remembers all > > the static ip details but I can't persuade it to remember to start. > > > > All I can recall doing recently is trying to persuade the box to talk to > > my Nokia phone but I'm not sure if that's the cause. I mention it just > > in case. > > > > I've tried googling for the solution but got nowhere. Anybody any ideas? > > More by luck than judgement, I've fixed this. > > It stopped happening when I switched off fastboot. I've no idea what it > is - I can guess what it does! - but courtesy of a google suggestion, I > made the change and for the past couple of days, it's worked. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 09:21:35 +0100 > From: Srdjan Todorovic <todorovic.s(a)googlemail.com> > Subject: [ALUG] [ALUG Announce] 2nd Thurs Pub Meet 13th August 2009 > (Was: Re: 2nd Thurs Pub Meet 9th July 2009) > To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > Cc: Alug Announce <announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk> > Message-ID: > <a59829110908120121q33ef3e68kc0327ca2011ea0b0(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > ALUG Announce > > Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk > Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce > ----- > Hello everyone, > > It looks as if no one has posted a message about it this month.... > > ALUG pub meet this Thursday 13th August 2009 at the usual place. > Details are as below. > > Thanks and hope to see you there, > Srdjan > > On 06/07/2009, David Reynolds <david(a)reynoldsfamily.org.uk> wrote: > > ALUG Announce > > > > Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk > > Unsub, change settings via > > http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce > > ----- > > Dear ALUG, > > The monthly second Thursday social meeting of ALUG will take place > > on 9th July 2009 at The Reindeer (10 Dereham Road, Norwich, > > NR2 4AY; tel. 01603 762223). It's very near the junction of > > Dereham Road and the Norwich inner ring road (Grapes Hill) > > and serves a selection of real ales, nice pub food (if you fancy > > going early to eat) and coffee. > > > > There are generally people there from 20:00 onwards and we tend > > to sit to the left of the main entrance. > > > > We look forward to seeing you there. > > > > Cheers, > > David > > > > -- > > David Reynolds > > david(a)reynoldsfamily.org.uk > > > > ----- > > Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) > > Unsub, change settings via > > http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce > > > > ----- > Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) > Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > http://www.anglian.lug.org.uk/ > http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main > > > End of main Digest, Vol 50, Issue 8 > *********************************** _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Messenger: Happy 10-Year Anniversary—get free winks and emoticons. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/

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Re: [ALUG] Suspend/hibernate on a desktop system, easy?, possible?
by MJ Ray 17 Aug '09

17 Aug '09

Chris G <cl(a)isbd.net> > There is then of course the question of whether turning the machine > on and off two or three times a day will wear it out more quickly than > leaving it permanently running. You may find help with suspend in the Linux Ecology HOWTO [ox.ac.uk LDP mirror] along with many other tips on how to reduce environmental damage from your computer. http://mirror.ox.ac.uk/sites/www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Ecology-HOWTO/index.html Simon Richter emailed me notes about the different types of disk - which I don't really understand so I've asked him to publish them himself at http://www.hogyros.de/?q=blog/1 - the gist seemed to be server disks don't like being power cycled repeatedly and yanking the power is very harmful to desktop disks. I've read articles that warn against powering down and up too often. They say that more frequent heating/cooling causing parts to fail, but I find the fans fail most often - which brings a different heating failure problem! I prefer to save some fan spin instead. (Edited repeat of http://mjr.towers.org.uk/blog/2006/lynn#howtonotmelt ) Hope that helps, -- MJ Ray (slef) LMS developer and webmaster at | software www.software.coop http://mjr.towers.org.uk | .... co IMO only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html | .... op

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Google Phone (T-Mobile/HTC G1)
by Alex Scotton 17 Aug '09

17 Aug '09

Hi guys, I'm a relative new comer to the world of linux, I use Ubuntu when I can, however have used Windows for most of my life :( .. love reading the newsletters and various problems and solutions that come up; however never find myself with the knowledge to answer coherently ha ha.. Anyways, with you all being people of the Open source persuasion; I wondered whether any of you had one of the Google Mobiles, as the OS it uses (Android) is completely open source, and there are reports of installing Ubuntu onto the device, and loads of alternative OS's. Have any of you had any experience of "modding" them, because I am planning to do so with mine when i feel comfortable enough to do so. This has all cropped up regards a phone call with T-Mobile's "Technical Support" this morning, because of course the phone has come brand new with the old version 1.0 OS, missing many of the features I got the phone for (Google Latitude, Increased share functions, and flash 10 support) telling me that the Update for the 1.5 version of Android (CupCake) will arrive at some point in the form of a question on the screen.. but they couldn't tell me when that'd be, it could take upto 3 months! Anyways, hi to all... and thanks for reading :)

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Suspend/hibernate on a desktop system, easy?, possible?
by Chris G 17 Aug '09

17 Aug '09

Is it possible to get a normal desktop system to suspend or hibernate when there is no activity? I'd like to get my garage backup system to use less power when it's not doing anything (which is most of the time). If specific hardware is good/easy for doing this then I'm quite happy to build a new system as I'm thinking of creating a new system for test and upgrade purposes so I could use my exisiting garage system for that. -- Chris Green

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Playing CDs on Linux - why is it so difficult, or is it me?
by Chris G 16 Aug '09

16 Aug '09

I'm trying to play a CD on my kubuntu 9.04 Linux box, without much success at the moment. The default "Listen Music Player" allows me to select one track and play it but once started the user interface is completely dead, I can't stop the track playing, select another track or anything. A quick Google search suggests that this is quite a common problem with "Listen Music Player". So I have downloaded Rhythmbox, I can't even get it to select and play tracks from the CD. Ah, yes I can, I need to add all the tracks to the "Play Queue" and then press play. Is there not an application that plays a CD without all this paraphernalia? Any suggestions for a bear of very little (audio) brain like me? -- Chris Green

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Re: [ALUG] Playing CDs on Linux - why is it so difficult, or is it me?
by MJ Ray 16 Aug '09

16 Aug '09

On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 01:20:32PM +0100, Chris G wrote: > I'm trying to play a CD on my [xubuntu] 9.04 Linux box, without much > success at the moment. [...] > Is there not an application that plays a CD without all this > paraphernalia? Any suggestions for a bear of very little (audio) > brain like me? Lately, I've put a CD into a Gnome laptop and it popped up a window that offered to let me play it. I think it used Totem. In the past, I've used cdtool, cdplay from the command-line and even grip I think. Most of my CDs that I listen to while at my desk have been copied to disk now, though. Fewer extra moving parts to go wrong. Good luck!

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[ALUG Announce] 3rd Monday Monthly Ipswich Social Meeting : McGintys, Northgate Street
by samwise 15 Aug '09

15 Aug '09

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- The monthly "Third Monday" ALUG Ipswich Social Meeting is back this coming Monday (17th August) at 20:00: P J McGinty & Sons 15 Northgate Street Ipswich Suffolk IP1 3BY Tel: 01473 251 515 Map/Directions URI: http://maps.google.co.uk/?q=IP1+3BY WWW: http://pjmcginty.moonfruit.com/ McGintys pub is in the centre of Ipswich, not far from our old haunt - The Milestone. It's directly opposite the town's central library and has a reputation for good Irish beer. All are welcome, novices and experienced users. Feel free to ask for further information on the Main ALUG mailing list. Remember to call or email me, if you're arriving later and want to ensure I don't wander off, which I have a tendency to do if the turn-out hits rock-bottom ... Hope to see you there, Peter. ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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Re: [ALUG] Really awkward text parsing shell script question
by Martijn Koster 14 Aug '09

14 Aug '09

Mephi wrote: > I need to add a value to the 25th item in each line. Other than knowing that value is > numeric and 10 characters long, I don't know anything more about it. > > running the command: > sed -n -e '/text/p' "log _20090814_162009" | awk '{print $25}' > gives: > 1363231555 > ... > > I need to able to make them look like: > 1000000001363231555 > ... Just prepend it to the field before printing them: awk '{$25="100000000"$25; print}' for example: mak@yoda:~$ echo "a 1363231555 c d" | awk '{$2="100000000"$2; print}' a 1000000001363231555 c d -- Martijn

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Really awkward text parsing shell script question
by Mephi 14 Aug '09

14 Aug '09

Ok, I've got a shell script that parses some logfiles. It spits all the lines with an appropriate value using sed: for i in log_* do sed -n -e '/text/p' "$i" > "/home/mephi/logs/$i" done The problem I have is that the logfiles aren't quite right and I need to add a value to the 25th item in each line. Other than knowing that value is numeric and 10 characters long, I don't know anything more about it. running the command: sed -n -e '/text/p' "log _20090814_162009" | awk '{print $25}' gives: 1363231555 1363231555 1363231555 1363231555 1229014082 1229014082 1229014082 1229014082 I need to able to make them look like: 1000000001363231555 1000000001363231555 1000000001363231555 1000000001363231555 1000000001229014082 1000000001229014082 1000000001229014082 1000000001229014082 Can anyone offer any help? Cheers, Matt

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Norwich pubmeet tonight - venue change
by Steve 13 Aug '09

13 Aug '09

l337 gr33tz and all that. Having recently heard that the Reindeer has shut /again/, it's time to pick a different venue for tonight's pub meet. I propose any (or all - ALUG pubcrawl anyone?) of the following: The King's Head - Magdalen Street A fine selection of real ales, bar billiards, generally quiet. There is free parking on Fishergate iirc. Micawbers - Pottergate (near the Reindeer) Woodforde's beers, nice atmosphere. Parking probably on St. Gregory's. Not sure. Cider Shed - Sprowston Road Run by the same people as the fat cat - good selection of beers and local ciders. Parking is available on surrounding roads. The Fat Cat - Nelson Street It's the Fat Cat. Excellent beer but liable to be busy. Parking no problem. So... vote now :) King's Head suits me best as it's less than 10 minutes stagger from my house :D See y'all tonight. Steve

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Re: [ALUG] [ALUG Announce] 2nd Thurs Pub Meet 13th August 2009 (Was: Re: 2nd Thurs Pub Meet 9th July 2009)
by Fabian Howard 13 Aug '09

13 Aug '09

Hi Everyone, Is it just me or has the The Reindeer shut? http://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/content/News/story.aspx?brand=ENOnline&categ… Fabian Howard

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2nd Thurs Pub Meet 13th August 2009 (Was: Re: [ALUG Announce] 2nd Thurs Pub Meet 9th July 2009)
by Srdjan Todorovic 12 Aug '09

12 Aug '09

Hello everyone, It looks as if no one has posted a message about it this month.... ALUG pub meet this Thursday 13th August 2009 at the usual place. Details are as below. Thanks and hope to see you there, Srdjan On 06/07/2009, David Reynolds <david(a)reynoldsfamily.org.uk> wrote: > ALUG Announce > > Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk > Unsub, change settings via > http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce > ----- > Dear ALUG, > The monthly second Thursday social meeting of ALUG will take place > on 9th July 2009 at The Reindeer (10 Dereham Road, Norwich, > NR2 4AY; tel. 01603 762223). It's very near the junction of > Dereham Road and the Norwich inner ring road (Grapes Hill) > and serves a selection of real ales, nice pub food (if you fancy > going early to eat) and coffee. > > There are generally people there from 20:00 onwards and we tend > to sit to the left of the main entrance. > > We look forward to seeing you there. > > Cheers, > David > > -- > David Reynolds > david(a)reynoldsfamily.org.uk > > ----- > Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) > Unsub, change settings via > http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce >

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How to exercise a disk drive?
by Chris G 11 Aug '09

11 Aug '09

Are there any disk exercising/testing programs for Linux? Well, I'm sure there are, so does anyone have any recommendations? I want to stick a couple of old (as in I have used them in systems now defunct) IDE disk drives into my Linux box and make sure that there is nothing radically wrong with them. They're not *that* old, 160Gb and 200Gb respectively. Destructive (of data) teting is fine, I don't even know at the moment whether they're ex-Windows or ex_linux. -- Chris Green

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No network every time
by Chris Walker 10 Aug '09

10 Aug '09

I've no idea what I've done recently to provoke it, but every time I power on my machine, it tells me there's no configured network interface. All I have to do to fix it, is give the root password, and then click ok several times until I get to 'finish'. It remembers all the static ip details but I can't persuade it to remember to start. All I can recall doing recently is trying to persuade the box to talk to my Nokia phone but I'm not sure if that's the cause. I mention it just in case. I've tried googling for the solution but got nowhere. Anybody any ideas?

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