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Fax modem
by James Freer 12 Jun '08

12 Jun '08

using ubuntu 7.10 fax modem chipset HSFi CX11252-41 I bought this modem from ebuyer a few months ago as someone had found drivers for it on opensuse ver 9... so i thought there was a good chance it would work in ubuntu. So far i have tried: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupAndFax installed following sl-modem-daemon gtk-efax gfax (as alternative) gnome-ppp https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto installed the scanmodem tool james@james-desktop:~$ sudo wvdialconf [sudo] password for james: Editing `/etc/wvdial.conf'. Scanning your serial ports for a modem. ttyS0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- failed with 2400 baud, next try: 9600 baud ttyS0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- failed with 9600 baud, next try: 115200 baud ttyS0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- and failed too at 115200, giving up. ttyS1<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- failed with 2400 baud, next try: 9600 baud ttyS1<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- failed with 9600 baud, next try: 115200 baud ttyS1<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- and failed too at 115200, giving up. Modem Port Scan<*1>: S2 S3 ttySHSF0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- OK ttySHSF0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 Z -- OK ttySHSF0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 -- OK ttySHSF0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 -- OK ttySHSF0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 -- OK ttySHSF0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 -- OK ttySHSF0<*1>: Modem Identifier: ATI -- 56000 ttySHSF0<*1>: Speed 4800: AT -- OK ttySHSF0<*1>: Speed 9600: AT -- OK ttySHSF0<*1>: Speed 19200: AT -- OK ttySHSF0<*1>: Speed 38400: AT -- OK ttySHSF0<*1>: Speed 57600: AT -- OK ttySHSF0<*1>: Speed 115200: AT -- OK ttySHSF0<*1>: Speed 230400: AT -- OK ttySHSF0<*1>: Speed 460800: AT -- OK ttySHSF0<*1>: Max speed is 460800; that should be safe. ttySHSF0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 -- OK Modem Port Scan<*1>: SHSF2 SHSF3 SHSF4 SHSF5 SHSF6 SHSF7 Found a modem on /dev/ttySHSF0. Modem configuration written to /etc/wvdial.conf. ttySHSF0<Info>: Speed 460800; init "ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0" james@james-desktop:~$ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Conexant http://linux.dell.com/files/ubuntu/gutsy/modem-drivers/hsf/ installed the .deb file - all seemed ok and entered in synaptic. The fax program is trying to use /dev/ttyS1 which is most likely a default when my modem is on /dev/ttySHSF0. Thus necessary to edit wvdial.conf [Dialer Defaults] Init1 = ATZ Init2 = ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 Modem Type = Analog Modem Baud = 460800 New PPPD = yes Modem = /dev/ttySHSF0 && before ttyS1 ISDN = 0 Phone = <Target Phone Number> ;08456091350 && this is a telephone number for an isp dial-up - also failed ; Password = <Your Password> ; Username = <Your Login Name> Tried to send a fax and have pasted the window (above "SEND FAX" button) info in gtk-efax Socket running on port 9900 efax-0.9a: 11:48:00 opened /dev/ttySHSF0 efax-0.9a: 11:48:02 Error: can't determine fax modem class support efax-0.9a: 11:48:02 failed page /home/james/Desktop/JF-CV.pdf.001 efax-0.9a: 11:48:02 finished - invalid modem response It would seem the modem can't select its class... recommends AUTO [from the choice of class 1, class2, class3]. Tried all three CAN'T BE FAR OUT!.... Also tried gFax and that didn't work either or should i use hylafax? Be grateful if someone could put me right. thanks james

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Fedora 9 startup scripts
by Dan Hatton 12 Jun '08

12 Jun '08

Dear All, Before I upgraded from Fedora 8 to 9, the script /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit used to run hwclock --rctosys at boot time. Now it doesn't any more - but presumably something else does. And I'd like to fiddle with the options that "something else" passes to hwclock. So does anyone have any idea what "something else" is, please? -- Thanks, Dan Hatton

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GNU/Linux App to make a screen saver from flash
by Steven Rose 10 Jun '08

10 Jun '08

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Essentially something that would allow creation of screen savers from flash that would then work on GNU/Linux operating systems. - -- Regards, Steven Rose www.stevey.eu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFITSqoOZpkWR2o6LERApndAJ0bP0D/3cXTmzXBwOGYsp0eH67CFACdFnoc sRA38BxLQHCH7OWWnZ8YVYc= =ZWMn -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Computing History Museum
by Ted.Harding＠manchester.ac.uk 09 Jun '08

09 Jun '08

Hi Folks, I've just become aware of the relatively recently set up Centre for Computing History, at Haverilll: http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/ See also the 3 June article in the EADT: http://www.eadt.co.uk/content/eadt/features/ story.aspx?brand=EADOnline&category=Features& tBrand=EADOnline&tCategory=features& itemid=IPED02%20Jun%202008%2015%3A17%3A12%3A937 [all one line; also at: http://tinyurl.com/3lj2u9 ] I landed on it while doing a Google search for "Sharp MZ-80B", which was my first serious personal computer (the one before that being a Sinclair ZX-81, which was capable of a surprising amount of real work). It's on our patch, and I plan to make a visit! [Perhaps, if I can still find them, I could donate the 20 or so floppies on which I obtained my first Linux system - SLS, back in August 1992, 0.92 kernel] Best wishes to all, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding(a)manchester.ac.uk> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 09-Jun-08 Time: 17:37:30 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------

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[ALUG Announce] 2nd Thurs Pub Meet 12th June
by Richard Lewis 09 Jun '08

09 Jun '08

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- Dear ALUG, The monthly second Thursday social meeting of ALUG will take place on * Thursday 12th June * at The Reindeer (10 Dereham Road, Norwich, NR2 4AY; tel. 01603 762223). It's very near the junction of Dereham Road and the Norwich inner ring road (Grapes Hill) and serves a selection of real ales, nice pub food (if you fancy going early to eat) and coffee. I intend to be there from about 20:00. Others may be there earlier. We should have a table reserved at the back of the pub just to the left of the bar. We look forward to seeing you there. Cheers, Richard -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Richard Lewis http://www.richard-lewis.me.uk/ JID: ironchicken(a)jabber.earth.li -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- +-------------------------------------------------------+ |Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.| |http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html | +-------------------------------------------------------+ ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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Re: [ALUG] eeePC
by Steve Button 09 Jun '08

09 Jun '08

> Anyone else in the group got an eeePC? Hi, Yes I've been using mine with Ubuntu Hardy for a couple of weeks now - see http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewforum.php?id=43 and it's working really well. Spinning cubes and wobbly windows too with Compiz Fusion, which work surprisingly well. http://wiki.eeeuser.com/ubuntu:eeexubuntu:compiz_on_eeexubunto But you should also run the Ricey script at ... http://eee.ricey.co.uk/ Also, Hi to the group. I've been lurking for a month or so and had nothing useful to add so far. (and little time) My next "project" will be to get my Orange mobile broadband USB thingy working with the Eee... which will arrive from Orange this week. After that I want to get it working with my Bluetooth GPS module and see what it's like as a Sat Nav. (pretty poor I guess by looking at the free maps available, but could be a fun project). A great little hobby machine, reminds me of my Amiga 15 years ago (or so). Steve Button. -- http://angelsdaycare.co.uk - Natural daycare with tasty wholesome organic food, secure webcam and fingerprint door entry system. - 01449 726082

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Font not defined for emacs on Fedora 9
by Dan Hatton 09 Jun '08

09 Jun '08

Dear All, Since upgrading from Fedora 8 to 9, I've been having the font problem exemplified by this terminal session: [dan@seagull ~]$ emacs Font `-Adobe-Courier-Medium-R-Normal--12-120-75-75-M-70-ISO8859-1' is not defined <and no emacs window appears> [dan@seagull ~]$ ps Uroot | grep -i 'xfs' 304 ? S< 0:00 [xfslogd/0] 305 ? S< 0:00 [xfsdatad/0] 306 ? S< 0:00 [xfs_mru_cache] [dan@seagull ~]$ grep -i 'Adobe-Courier-Medium-R-Normal--12-120-75-75-M-70-ISO8859-1' /usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi/fonts.dir courR12-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz -adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--12-120-75-75-m-70-iso8859-1 courR12-ISO8859-14.pcf.gz -adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--12-120-75-75-m-70-iso8859-14 courR12-ISO8859-15.pcf.gz -adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--12-120-75-75-m-70-iso8859-15 [dan@seagull ~]$ ls -l /usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi/courR12-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4108 2008-01-14 18:01 /usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi/courR12-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz [dan@seagull ~]$ su Password: [dan@seagull dan]# /etc/init.d/xfs stop Shutting down xfs: [ OK ] [dan@seagull dan]# /etc/init.d/xfs start Starting xfs: [ OK ] [dan@seagull dan]# exit exit [dan@seagull ~]$ emacs <emacs now runs with no problem and no error message> Any ideas why the fiddling with xfs is necessary, and how I can avoid it, please? -- Thanks, Dan Hatton

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Re: [ALUG] GNOME/X problems
by Greg Thomas 08 Jun '08

08 Jun '08

2008/6/1 Tim Green <timothy.j.green(a)gmail.com>: > On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Greg Thomas <Greg(a)thethomashome.co.uk> wrote: >> So any ideas from the readers as to the best way to restart my >> windowing environment without restarting the whole box? > > Which X are you using? My Intel 945G (i810 driver) doesn't do this. It's an Intel 945GM chipset. Regarding "which" X, I thought there was only one, nowadays? i.e. the one from X.Org. Greg

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GNOME/X problems
by Greg Thomas 08 Jun '08

08 Jun '08

I'm running Ubuntu 8.04, which 95% of the time works just great. The other 5% if the time, the screen will just go grey when in use [It may actually be black, but with nothing else on the LCD to contrast it against it looks grey], and I'm unable to do anything (*). Ctrl-Alt-Backspace will rattle the disk, and I can hear the Ubuntu drumbeat that happens when GNOME starts, but nothing actually changes on screen. Ctrl-Alt-F1 will drop me to a command line; restarting gdm from here doesn't do anything other than re-present me with a back/grey screen. So any ideas from the readers as to the best way to restart my windowing environment without restarting the whole box? Thanks, Greg (*) Someone is bound to ask; If I look in syslog it has the following ... Jun 1 13:15:20 greg-server gdm[5655]: WARNING: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0 Jun 1 13:16:18 greg-server gdm[5652]: WARNING: main daemon: Got SIGABRT. Something went very wrong. Going down! Jun 1 13:16:18 greg-server gdm[5652]: GLib-CRITICAL: g_hash_table_lookup_extended: assertion `hash_table != NULL' failed Jun 1 13:16:18 greg-server gdm[5652]: WARNING: Request for invalid configuration key xdmcp/Enable=false Jun 1 13:16:18 greg-server gdm[8494]: WARNING: Didn't understand `' (expected true or false) Googling suggests to me that this is a fairly recent, err, feature, of the current packages ...

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Local Feed Aggregation in Ubuntu 8.04 LTS?
by Steven Rose 08 Jun '08

08 Jun '08

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I have use of a Google Reader account, but am looking for something lightweight to use locally on my laptop. Any suggestions ALUG? - -- Regards, Steven Rose www.stevey.eu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFISqn9OZpkWR2o6LERAj9yAKCbErSEzk1LYkjN1WtFlkqgHy62cQCfZV9c t2JoBjjBnJU9JraaJIBe2Ho= =dZrZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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eeePC
by Ruth Bygrave 08 Jun '08

08 Jun '08

Great fun, small & cute. Think it runs Xandros. How do I get a shell prompt on it, also perl? Regards, Ruth

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Perl
by Ruth Bygrave 08 Jun '08

08 Jun '08

...cannot get 'make' to work on either the Mac or the eeePC. Possibly I should have a /usr/bin/make but there's no sign of it. Oops. I get up to "Checking if your kit is complete. Looks good" and then I get: Writing Makefile for [whatever] -- NOT OK Running make test. Can't test without successful make. Running make install make had returned bad status, install seems impossible How do I get perl modules to do anything? Regards, Ruth

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[ALUG Announce] Fw: LUG Radio Live 2008 19th/20th July Wolverhampton
by MJ Ray 08 Jun '08

08 Jun '08

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- I'm forwarding this on request of Tony Whitmore:- LUG Radio Live UK 2008 will be happening on the 19th and 20th July at the Lighthouse Media Centre in Wolverhampton. This self-styled "rock conference" is always a-buzz with interesting ideas and is renowned for its laid-back social atmosphere combined with a diverse range of speakers and exhibitors. Speakers and Exhibitors confirmed so far include: Chris DiBona (Google) Max Spevack - The Fedora Project James Hooker Kevin Sandom Barbie Daniel James - The Indamixx project Emma Jane Hogbin Bruno Bord Ben Thorp Rufus Pollock Sam Birchall John Carr Christian Schaller Edward Hervey William J Giddings Rob McQueen Agostino Russo Steve Lamb - Microsoft Robert Collins Benjamin Otte Matthew Garrett William Anderson Matthew Walster Bytemark Icculus Ubuntu UK Open Rights Group www.tinker.it KDE Linux Outlaws 64 Studio Linux Emporium Find out more about the venue, schedule, hotels etc. at http://lugradio.org/live Tony Whitmore ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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iptables - old rules?
by Barry Samuels 05 Jun '08

05 Jun '08

Debian Testing (uptodate) - kernel 2.6.24 If I list my Iptables rules they include rules which contain the domain names of two of my previous ISPs but I can't find what is generating these rules. I use Firestarter at present and previously used Guarddog. I think that it was Guarddog which generated these rules but I have long ago uninstalled (purged) that package and nothing of it remains. If I use Firestarter to stop the firewall all I'm left with is: Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination If I then restart the firewall all those old rules re-appear even though there is nothing in the Firestarter configuration to generate them. I find the iptables syntax a complete mystery which is why I use packages like Guarddog and Firestarter. Where can I look to try and find where these rules are coming from? -- Barry Samuels http://www.beenthere-donethat.org.uk The Unofficial Guide to Great Britain

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Any Evolution+Compiz users out there
by Wayne Stallwood 04 Jun '08

04 Jun '08

On my last machine and to an even greater extent on my new one I have a strange cursor artifact problem with the compose message box in evolution. (both machines are using a nvidia card and the non-free drivers) an 8800GT and Quadro FX500 respectively. I think it started to occur when I started using Compiz, on my old machine it only appeared after gnome had been up for some time..on the new one it appears most of the time. The effect is that copies of (or copies of portions of) the cursor get "stuck" in the message window. This happens most frequently when cutting or pasting text or moving the cursor position with the arrow keys but it can also happen when typing in which case the bottom few pixels of the cursor remain in previous positions within the text..also sometimes when a line wraps a copy of the cursor remains at the end. Moving the window will remove the existing ones, so I was thinking it was a graphics/windowmanager glitch but it only seems to happen in Evolution. It also appears in any screenshots I take as below. http://digimatic.plus.com/evolution.jpg Anyone here experienced the same problem ?

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Re: [ALUG] Anyone of the Ipswich inclination happen to have a PS2 keyboard I could borrow for a day or so?
by Adam Reid 03 Jun '08

03 Jun '08

Cheers - this is for the new tower though, not the laptop ... and that'd be a bit much to lug to and fro (as I don't drive, unsure if you recall). :) Hopefully the adaptor will cut the Ubuntu mustard, but as I need to wait until next *week* for CCL to send me RAM that doesn't have faults (just sent the dicky stuff back today), it'll be a while before we find out. :\ Thanks for the offer though, ~Adam > Bit late now, but I have a USB -> PS/2 converter you can borrow. My > wireless USB keyboard has a PS/2 dongle which you could also try - but > as it's my main keyboard, I can't lend it for an extended period of > time - you're welcome to bring your machine round here, tho. > > Let me know if you're other options don't pan out. > > Sam.

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Re: [ALUG] Anyone of the Ipswich inclination happen to have a PS2 keyboard I could borrow for a day or so? (Martin Collins)
by Adam Reid 03 Jun '08

03 Jun '08

Allo, and no worries. The option is on by default - I've tried it on and off, with and without USB2 support. It's fine in the BIOS and the original stages, but as soon as the second prompt to choose language appears ... pff. not a sausage. Google says I'm not the only person who's hit this issue, but none of the suggested fixes are working / possible (ie they involve changing BIOS options I don't have). Someone here has rather generously offered a keyboard, but somebody else (from elsewhere) has already posted an adaptor - which was unexpected, as I was just asking them for advice on the matter. So will wait until that arrives, on the off chance that does the trick. :) Cheers, ~Adam > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 02:57:52 +0100 > From: "Martin Collins" <mobile.sea(a)googlemail.com> > Subject: Re: [ALUG] Anyone of the Ipswich inclination happen to have a > PS2 keyboard I could borrow for a day or so? > To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > Message-ID: > <ef2346e00806021857o194d12bfyc798e992e74704db(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Not wanting to tell someone who has just built their PC how to suck > eggs, but just checking to see if turning legacy usb support on in the > bios fixes this?? Never used a usb keyboard before so this is not the > voice of experience!! > > Rgds, > > Martin > > On 02/06/2008, Adam Reid <thesilverhornet(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> to start the Ubuntu-ing process... but my USB keyboard is magically >> forgotten about as soon as I enter the install process proper (I'm using >> the alternate installer). >>

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Waves. (And the Eee PC)
by Anthony Anson 03 Jun '08

03 Jun '08

After a very long absence I've a huge number of ALUG items to look through, so now I'm back online (c/o a Vodafone broadbean dongle) I'll be going through the backlog of more than two years and maybe asking questions which have been covered before if they come up before I get to their discussion. The first of these questions is, has anyone written a script to drop into Linux of any flavour to allow it and the aforementioned Vodafone dongle to talk to each other? I have an Asus Eee, and am not overly chuffed with their dumbed-down version of Linux - 'My Network Places', 'My Computer', 'My this, that and the other'. Yeeuch! And MSN? I ask you! And the book of destructions states that 'Removing the pre-installed software is not allowed' Hmmm. We shall see about _THAT_! I shall be investigating the specially developed version of Ubantu, and a script that will mate that with Vodafone would be most useful innit. -- Tony http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

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Aptitude manual
by James Freer 03 Jun '08

03 Jun '08

Is it possible to print out the aptitude manual [aptitude~>help~>user's manual] in ubuntu or debian. I just find it a pain trying to take in reading .txt just from a screen. I've got aptitude(8) from man aptitude in terminal. I was hoping it might have been transferred to a pdf somewhere. thx james

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Anyone of the Ipswich inclination happen to have a PS2 keyboard I could borrow for a day or so?
by Adam Reid 03 Jun '08

03 Jun '08

Hello again all, I've now built said PC (with the card suggested, many thanks for that, although haven't been able to test it yet), and have finally found time to start the Ubuntu-ing process... but my USB keyboard is magically forgotten about as soon as I enter the install process proper (I'm using the alternate installer). I lack either a PS2 keyboard or the USB=>PS2 adapter, so to save buying another keyboard (apparently using an adapter won't always solve this issue, otherwise I'd just fork out for one of those) would anyone be willing to let me give a spare one of theirs a change of scenery for a day or so? Or I could bring it along to the meet for collection (along with a beverage of your choice) if it's not direly urgent that it's returned ASAP? :) Cheers all, ~Adam

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backups for the very unsophisticated...?
by Peter Alcibiades 30 May '08

30 May '08

Any thoughts or experience on a backup tool for a very unsophisticated user? Like, one who cannot really be trusted to copy in the right direction from a hard drive to a usb stick? Who is quite capable of thinking that the way to get rid of a file on usb stick is to move it to the desktop. A brilliant and intelligent person but with a tech blind spot who on the previous machine was used to backing up folders to floppies labelled with the same name as the folder, which worked fine for years, but the new machine has no floppy drive... And of course fewer and fewer external people will accept data on floppies now. I'm considering the following: One usb stick labelled backup, with instructions to only use it for backups and keep it in the same reasonably secure place. This would back up the /home/user directory in its entirety. The instruction would be: do this every Friday, or more often if lots of revisions have been done. kde keep for the actual backup tool. It seems simpler than the gnome one, pybackpack, though he is running Gnome. We need as few options as possible! A second usb stick to be used for carrying files around and transferring them to other people (in addition to email). Any other thoughts appreciated. These are mostly text files with some graphics, ie the volume is not huge. The home directory will fit on a 2G usb drive for the forseeable future. Al

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Moving firefox passwords between machines
by Ted.Harding＠manchester.ac.uk 30 May '08

30 May '08

Hi Folks, I've had an oldish firefox running for a few years one one machine, and have accumulatd a few dozen login username/passwords for various websites. I'm now doing most of my browsing using iceweasel on a new machine, and I'd like to "copy" all those passwords over to the new setup. Passwords are stored in encrypted form in a file signons.txt (old machine) or signons2.txt (new machine), and each is in a directory ~/.mozilla/firefox/xxxxxxxx.default, where the "xxxxxxxx" is a random-looking string (different between the two) and presumably serves as an encryption key. So I can't just copy signons.txt to signons2.txt -- it doesnt work! (tried it). One way, of course, is to trek through edit>preferences>passwords in firefox on the old machine, and get them up in the browser, unencrypted, and read them off when I need them. This of course is tedious! Any suggestions for how to port the lot from firefox to iceweasel? (I had no problem simply copying my bookmarks.html from one to the other; but then that's just plain text). With thanks, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding(a)manchester.ac.uk> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 29-May-08 Time: 10:46:45 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------

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Re: [ALUG] Bash commands
by Bev Nicolson 30 May '08

30 May '08

<<While I'm at it, though, if you type the bash command 'help' on the command-line, you'll get a useful summary of what's available. Then typing 'help <keyword>' for any of the keywords that come up will give a detailed breakdown of its usage.>> Thanks Ted. This is the sort of thing I'm after. I don't think I have the appitude to become a real geek! :¬) bev. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ted.Harding(a)manchester.ac.uk > To: "Bev Nicolson" <bnicolson(a)operamail.com> > Subject: RE: [ALUG] Bash commands > Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 21:15:54 +0100 (BST) > > > On 29-May-08 19:25:16, Bev Nicolso'll get a usefuon wrote: > > Still on the nursery slopes as far as bash commands I'm afraid > > but have, once again, realised how very useful they can be. How > > do you learn what to type in in any given situation, though? (I'm > > asking > > generally, not for any specific problem I have now.) > > Bev. (Ubuntu user.) > > Bash is quite a complex thing (as indeed are even the simpler > shell languages), though most usage will be fairly basic. > > And 'man bash', while useful for looking up something you know > you're wanting to use, isn't all that helpful for suggesting > what to do to perform a given type of task. > > While I'm at it, though, if you type the bash command 'help' > on the command-line, you'll get a useful summary of what's > available. Then typing 'help <keyword>' for any of the keywords > that come up will give a detailed breakdown of its usage. > > E.g. try > > help > help alias > > However, it looks as though you might need a "bash tutorial" > so enter that into Google (including quotation marks) and > you'll get several helpful-looking results. > > I thought that the one at > > http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html > > looked pretty good for the day-to-day stuff; and it has a > big brother at > > http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ > > for more advanced stuff. > > Hoping this helps! > Ted. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding(a)manchester.ac.uk> > Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 > Date: 29-May-08 Time: 21:15:47 > ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------ > -- _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [ALUG] main Digest, Vol 35, Issue 34
by James Hayes 30 May '08

30 May '08

I have a Linoscan 1400 scanner(Umax 3400) that works with feisty fawn but refuses to work with Hardy Heron on my Apple G4 ppc any ideas 2008/5/30 <main-request(a)lists.alug.org.uk>: > Send main mailing list submissions to > main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > main-request(a)lists.alug.org.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > main-owner(a)lists.alug.org.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of main digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Moving firefox passwords between machines (Wayne Stallwood) > 2. Bash commands (Bev Nicolson) > 3. Re: Moving firefox passwords between machines (mbm) > 4. Re: Bash commands ( (Ted Harding)) > 5. Re: Moving firefox passwords between machines ( (Ted Harding)) > 6. Re: Export emails (chestep) > 7. Re: Moving firefox passwords between machines (Simon Elliott) > 8. Re: Moving firefox passwords between machines (Rob Page) > 9. Re: Moving firefox passwords between machines (Simon Elliott) > 10. Re: Moving firefox passwords between machines (James Freer) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 12:25:25 +0100 > From: Wayne Stallwood <ALUGlist(a)digimatic.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [ALUG] Moving firefox passwords between machines > To: ALUG <main(a)lists.alug.org.uk> > Message-ID: <1212060325.11243.13.camel@digimatic> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 10:46 +0100, Ted.Harding(a)manchester.ac.uk wrote: >> >> Passwords are stored in encrypted form in a file signons.txt >> (old machine) or signons2.txt (new machine), and each is in >> a directory ~/.mozilla/firefox/xxxxxxxx.default, where the >> "xxxxxxxx" is a random-looking string (different between the >> two) and presumably serves as an encryption key. >> >> So I can't just copy signons.txt to signons2.txt -- it doesnt >> work! (tried it). >> > > Look at this thread..any help ? > > http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=2767968 > > You will also need to move key3.db afaik > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 20:25:16 +0100 > From: "Bev Nicolson" <bnicolson(a)operamail.com> > Subject: [ALUG] Bash commands > To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > Message-ID: <20080529192516.7DBAE233D2(a)ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" > > Still on the nursery slopes as far as bash commands I'm afraid but > have, once again, realised how very useful they can be. How do you > learn what to type in in any given situation, though? (I'm asking generally, not for any specific problem I have now.) > Bev. (Ubuntu user.) > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: > Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com > > Powered by Outblaze > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 20:40:42 +0100 > From: mbm <mbm(a)rlogin.net> > Subject: Re: [ALUG] Moving firefox passwords between machines > To: ted.harding(a)manchester.ac.uk > Cc: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > Message-ID: <20080529204042.4a812202(a)door.rlogin.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > On Thu, 29 May 2008 10:46:50 +0100 (BST) > (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding(a)manchester.ac.uk> allegedly wrote: >> >> I've had an oldish firefox running for a few years one >> one machine, and have accumulatd a few dozen login >> username/passwords for various websites. >> >> I'm now doing most of my browsing using iceweasel on a >> new machine, and I'd like to "copy" all those passwords >> over to the new setup. >> >> Any suggestions for how to port the lot from firefox to iceweasel? >> > > I've not tried this, but I just stumbled across it when looking for a > replacement for my (now broken under 3.0) trashmail.net addon. > > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2848 > > Mick > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This is a Microsoft free zone. Please do not send me Microsoft Word > Documents. For some reasons, see: > > www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > www.goldmark.org/netrants/no-word/attach.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >

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Re: [ALUG] Export emails
by chestep 29 May '08

29 May '08

Hi James Thanks for your reply and link re exporting Thunderbird emails, James. Ann

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