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Backup solutions wanted
by Chris G 07 May '08

07 May '08

I currently use a mix of rsync and rdiff-backup to backup my home system. The basic backup is an rdiff-backup of all of /home to the NAS server in the garage. *However* (and it's a big however) this has one huge hole in it, rdiff-backup does *not* copy the 'contents' of symbolic links. All it does (if you tell it to) is to copy the symbolic link leaving it on the resulting backup as a symbolic link which points at nothing. This is all very well if you live in a perfect world where all of your system resides in one neat partition etc. but my home directory has symbolic links to old (and not so old) data on other filesystems and partitions. Thus rdiff-backup doesn't back these up. I'm looking around for something like rdiff-backup that does incremental backups but *also* copies *everything* that is part of /home/chris whether it's via a symbolic link or not. Can anyone recommend anything? -- Chris Green

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[ALUG Announce] 2nd Thurs Pub Meet 8th May
by Richard Lewis 07 May '08

07 May '08

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- Dear ALUG, The monthly second Thursday social meeting of ALUG will take place on * Thursday 8th May * at The Reindeer (10 Dereham Road, Norwich, NR2 4AY; tel. 01603 762223). It's very near the junction of Dereham Road and the Norwich inner ring road (Grapes Hill) and serves a selection of real ales, nice pub food (if you fancy going early to eat) and coffee. I intend to be there from about 20:00. Others may be there earlier. We should have a table reserved at the back of the pub just to the left of the bar. We look forward to seeing you there. Cheers, Richard -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Richard Lewis http://www.richard-lewis.me.uk/ JID: ironchicken(a)jabber.earth.li -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- +-------------------------------------------------------+ |Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.| |http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html | +-------------------------------------------------------+ ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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upgrading to 8.04lts
by Barrys linux mail 02 May '08

02 May '08

Hi just upgraded to Ubuntu 8.04 from 7.10 all seems ok thanks for your help. since this version seems to be supported for 3 years it will last the life of this laptop.

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Re: [ALUG] OT: Recovery of data from dead HDDs in RAID array
by Mark Rogers 02 May '08

02 May '08

Robert Tillyard wrote: > [...]I was annoyed that we had already supplied them with enough > information for them to know they couldn't help and yet they still > asked us the send the disk and charged us for the work (if any). Thanks for the heads-up on that. I'll keep an eye out for that kind of thing. How long ago was it? -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0845 45 89 555 Registered in England (0456 0902) at 13 Clarke Rd, Milton Keynes, MK1 1LG

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Ubuntu upgrade
by Barrys linux mail 02 May '08

02 May '08

Hi I am thinking of upgrading from 7.10 to 8.04 Lts, but not sure if it will work on my laptop which has 380 meg memory and Pent 3 processor, also when I upgraded from 7.06 to 7.10 it lost all the wireless wep settings. How do I avoid this this time if I upgrade? Has anyone upgraded yet? Also see that new version better with utube video, which seems to broken on my system know even though it did work. something to do with Adobe flash ! Barry

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Re: [ALUG] OT: laptop repairer near Ipswich?
by Dave Cooper 30 Apr '08

30 Apr '08

Thanks Wayne, that'll be great. I think this laptop's been lying around in an 'apparently dead' state for a month so there's no enormous urgency. I'll pass this on to Andy this evening and he'll bring the machine along. thanks again, Dave Cooper Wayne Stallwood wrote: > Hello Dave, > > We take in laptops for repair on a no success no fee basis and also have > access to HP service info and spares. At the moment the workshop is > pretty full so I can't promise a great turnaround time but we would do > what we can to get a quote to him ASAP. > > We have an office in Stowmarket so I am sure we can arrange something > regarding getting it dropped off..Give your friend my office email > address and I can arrange with him direct. > > wayne(a)crimsontechnology.com > > Kind regards > Wayne > > >

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OT: Recovery of data from dead HDDs in RAID array
by Mark Rogers 30 Apr '08

30 Apr '08

Hopefully someone here will have some recommendations.. I have a customer with a Dell server, 4 disks in a RAID5 array, with 2 "dead" disks (I believe they have suffered hardware failures). As they have no backups and need the data (doh!) they've asked me for advice. As far as I am concerned it's a specialist job, but my experience of specialists is that I'd rather go by recommendation than random website claims of competence. So does anyone here have any recommendations? If they were my own disks I'd have a play with some Linux data recovery tools, but they're not so I had better not! -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0845 45 89 555 Registered in England (0456 0902) at 13 Clarke Rd, Milton Keynes, MK1 1LG

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Re: [ALUG] [Fwd: Re: OT: laptop repairer near Ipswich?]
by Dave Cooper 29 Apr '08

29 Apr '08

Yes Andy, and they understand about email addresses as well! Sorry, everyone! Thank you, Keith! Dave Andy Turner wrote: > > Hi Dave - gosh they speak a different language don't they? I presume he > is saying its not economic to repair? I'll bring it tomorrow anyway. > > Attached are the pics we took at Medemblik and a brief report of the > event. See you tomorrow at Wells SC 7pm. > > Andy > > > > Dave Cooper wrote: >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Subject: >> Re: [ALUG] OT: laptop repairer near Ipswich? >> From: >> <keith.jamieson(a)bt.com> >> Date: >> Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:31:54 +0100 >> To: >> <main(a)lists.alug.org.uk> >> >> To: >> <main(a)lists.alug.org.uk> >> >> >> Dave >> >> I had a friend who had the same on their Christmas Present, a Melidon >> (SP?) which I put the disk into their sisters laptop and pulled off his >> info before they took it back under warrantee. If they don't have their >> info off the disk then I have had success using an external USB 2.5" >> disk caddy to copy off other laptop info. >> >> Can you get into the BIOS ok? Will it boot of a CD ? This will eliminate >> some issues, ie memory and cpu >> >> I would volunteer but I'm very busy ATM and with older laptops its not >> economically viable to repair them. I know its only 2 years old in this >> instance. >> >> Regards >> >> Keith >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> main(a)lists.alug.org.uk >> http://www.alug.org.uk/ >> http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main >> Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above! >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >

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OT: laptop repairer near Ipswich?
by Dave Cooper 29 Apr '08

29 Apr '08

Hi, sorry this is off-topic, but I wonder if any of you Ipswichers can recommend anyone to fix a laptop in the your area? A friend has a 2 year old Hewlett Packard that starts to boot when it's switched on and then just powers down again. He was talking about taking it to PC W*rld, so he definitely needs our help! Thanks, Dave Cooper

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re blue tooth
by Barrys linux mail 28 Apr '08

28 Apr '08

Hi just a line to say thanks for the help with blue tooth,i downloaded a blue tooth file transfer program and now i can get the photos from my phone to the computer. thanks again. Barry

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Perl problems
by Ruth Bygrave 28 Apr '08

28 Apr '08

Am trying to install some Perl modules for creating/modifying mobipocket files. Perl version returns 5.8.8, which is apparently correct. On trying any install package I get perfectly correct ftp &c messages from CPAN, followed by a failed make with no explanation. The following is the final set of messages from the Palm::PDB package: "WARNING: LICENSE is not a known parameter. Checking if your kit is complete... Looks good 'LICENSE' is not a known MakeMaker parameter name. Writing Makefile for Palm -- NOT OK Running make test Can't test without successful make Running make install make had returned bad status, install seems impossible" so it apparently happens perfectly correctly up to the make pass, which chokes it. Regards, Ruth

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For Sale: Blackmagic Decklink PCI SD
by Richard Bensley 26 Apr '08

26 Apr '08

Hey All I am gutting one of my G5's and I have this decklink card going spare. Great for any Final Cut users who want to start using hardware based keying, ripping from things like digidecks or just for the sake of haivng access to fast affordable 10bit uncrompressed footage. This however does NOT include the breakout cables as I bought two of these originally OEM and I only bought one set of cables. This card barely saw, I only used it go gain access to the features it was providing on my main machine. This is PCI, not PCIe or PCI-X. I don't know if it will work n a G4 chassis. I am looking to get £80 including delivery. Or £70 with pickup, I live about 15 miles outside Norwich in Loddon. Email me or call me (number in signature). For a connection diagram see page 27 of this pdf manual: http://www.blackmagic-design.com/downloads/manuals/decklinkmacmanual.pdf For a wee piccy see here: http://www.creativevideo.co.uk/public/product_images/18_08_2005blackmagic_d… Cheers Rich -- Richard Charles Bensley richardbensley(a)gmail.com http://www.richardbensley.co.uk 07846466530

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Does anyone have any use for "thin ethernet" hardware?
by Chris G 25 Apr '08

25 Apr '08

I have quite a lot of old "thin ethernet" computer networking hardware, e.g.:- Lots of 50 ohm coaxial cable (originally 100 meters, but in pieces now, some quite long pieces though) Lots of 50 ohm BNC connectors, T pieces, terminators, etc. One or two PC network cards with BNC connectors. An Axis print server with BNC connector. A hub with a BNC connector (and RJ45 connectors). Free to a good home if anyone wants it, I'm near Ipswich, might be able to deliver in the area. -- Chris Green

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Re: [ALUG] Curiosity Collective Ipswich Exhibit Tomorrow
by samwise 25 Apr '08

25 Apr '08

On 25/04/2008, Simon Elliott <alug(a)sionide.net> wrote: > samwise wrote: > > They have re-imagined > > semaphore for the 21st Century, music made with Nintendo GameBoys > > > > Different artist but sounds a lot like what Bitshifter does... > > http://www.last.fm/music/bitshifter Yes, the guy doing the game boy music under the Curiosity Collective banner this week is Pixelh8 who has collaborated with a number of ppl doing similar work online ... Peter.

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Curiosity Collective Ipswich Exhibit Tomorrow
by samwise 25 Apr '08

25 Apr '08

Hi, I don't know if anyone is interested, but the Curiosity Collective that we've discussed at the Ipswich meets a few times is coming up to the last day of their exhibit. They are a local technological arts group who have set up in St. Mary's on the Quay church, on Key Street in Ipswich. They're in there all-day tomorrow, and have some really cool exhibits - I've been to one of their preview meetings. They have re-imagined semaphore for the 21st Century, music made with Nintendo GameBoys, mysterious hybrid-portrait-photographs and interactive-kaleidoscopic-video! http://curiositycollective.org/ Anyway, if you've not got anything on, I reckon it's well worth a walk down if you're around Ipswich town centre. Peter.

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PostPost problem with PlanetPlanet
by Ben Francis 24 Apr '08

24 Apr '08

I've been wondering (probably for years now). Why do all my blog posts get repeated twice in Planet ALUG? The RSS feed looks OK. Ben -- Ben Francis http://tola.me.uk

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Re: [ALUG] upgrading from 6.06 LTS to 8.04 LTS
by Bev Nicolson 24 Apr '08

24 Apr '08

<<Oh yes, and is there anything important I need to do, that I have forgotten, before upgrading?>> > > Backup ? Yes, that might be a good idea! Thanks. Bev. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wayne Stallwood" <ALUGlist(a)digimatic.co.uk> > To: ALUG <main(a)lists.alug.org.uk> > Subject: Re: [ALUG] upgrading from 6.06 LTS to 8.04 LTS > Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:46:08 +0100 > > > On Thu, 2008-04-24 at 16:53 +0100, Bev Nicolson wrote: > > I've done what the Ubuntu website says and gone to system > admin > > > update manager and installed the last batch of updates but it > > doesn't mention anything about the new version when I click on > > 'upgrade' again. Am I a) being a bit impatient or b) is there > > another (simple!) way round this? Oh yes, and is there anything > > important I need to do, that I have forgotten, before upgrading? > > Backup ? > > > > > _______________________________________________ > main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > http://www.alug.org.uk/ > http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main > Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above! > -- _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com Powered by Outblaze

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Router conundrum
by Chris G 24 Apr '08

24 Apr '08

iIn the past several weeks I have upgraded our home ADSL (which is also our small business internet access) to make it more robust. We have two telephone lines so I got ADSL enabled on the second one so now if one goes down we can still connect. (OK, I know if someone takes the wires out between us and the exchange we probably lose both but there are limits to what's worth doing). The second ADSL is a BT business connection and a free BT Business Hub router comes with it, actually a 2Wire 2700HGV. When it came it installed without fuss and worked, I made its IP address 192.168.1.254 with our original ADSL router as 192.168.1.1. I "shared" access by setting up Maxine's computer to use 192.168.1.254 as its default route and mine to use 192.168.1.1. So far so good, it worked fine, but of course I'd have to manually change things if either ADSL connection went down. So, my next improvement was to get a new Draytek Vigor 2820n router for the not-BT ADSL. I mainly got this for the better (or at least easier to configure) firewall but it offers sharing facilities for two WAN connections and this is where the fun starts. WAN1 on the 2820n is the ADSL connection (EntaNet), WAN2 is an ordinary ethernet connection which can be connected to another router/modem. So I removed the 2Wire router from the 192.168.1.x subnet and plugged it into the WAN2 port of the 2820n. I have set the WAN2 'subnet' to be 192.168.13.x and the 2Wire router is 192.168.13.254. After a few hiccoughs I have got it working but the 2Wire router is causing some issues. For some reason the 2wire router sets itself up so you can access it as http://gateway.2wire.net/ rather than just its IP address (or a name you put in /etc/hosts) on the local LAN. This initially caused some fun and games when I tried to access it but after a while it asked if I wanted to set 192.168.1.x (or maybe 192.168.13.x) as a DMZ and all was well. However I now have another issue caused by this http://gateway.2wire.net/ thing. I want to be able to set up the routers remotely, rather than opening their browser interface to the outside world I'm creating an ssh tunnel to my home machine and port forwarding the router IP. E.g. for the 28820n I do:- ssh -L 50080:192.168.1.1:80 home.isbd.net and it works perfectly, Firefox at work connects to localhost:50080 and sees the 2820n web interface. Similarly I can connect to our DECT SIP phone set up web pages and configure that. The problem is that if I do:- ssh -L 50080:192.168.13.254:80 home.isbd.net and try connecting to localhost:50080 it gets a page not found error because it's trying to connect to http://gateway.2wire.net/xslt?PAGE=HURL00 Can anyone suggest a way around this problem? (Sorry for the long winded explanation) -- Chris Green

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'selectors' for rsyslog, where are they documented?
by Chris G 23 Apr '08

23 Apr '08

I'm trying to log messages from my router, it can send messages to syslog. However I can't find anywhere any documentation on what 'selectors' should look like in /etc/rsyslog.conf, let alone how I would select messages from my router. Can anyone point me at anything useful please. -- Chris Green

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Blue tooth
by Barrys linux mail 23 Apr '08

23 Apr '08

Hi Has anyone successfully used a usb bluetooth dongle with Ubuntu 7.10. I can get it to pair with my mobile phone on the laptop, but when i try to send a photo from phone to laptop, the phone does not detect the laptop.Made both phone and laptop visible but still no connection. I must be doing something wrong but what? Not to clued up with blue tooth! All suggestions gratefully received. Barry

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Problem rebooting debian server after power down
by Jenny Hopkins 23 Apr '08

23 Apr '08

Hullo there List, I powered down a debian etch server yesterday, for the first time in several months. When powered back up, it is mounting the hard drive read only for some reason, with no hostname. The kernel is 2.6.18-5-amd64, if I boot into older kernels I get the same problem. I've run fsck several times and found no errors. I remounted the drive rw and started trying to manually start services. I tried setting the hostname thusly: jenny@(none):~$ sudo /etc/init.d/hostname.sh start /etc/init.d/hostname.sh: line 19: /lib/init/vars.sh: No such file or directory jenny@(none):~$ Looking in /lib/init, there are no files, only an empty rw directory, but on my other system there are a bunch of startup files. I see the package initscripts is supposed to provide these files, -dpkg says v. 2.86.ds1-38 installed. I went to remove and reinstall it but got such a scary warning i haven't dared yet. Has anyone any idea what on earth is going on? Thanks, any pointers appreciated. Jenny

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Further report on MSI Titan 700 NAS and USB drive
by Chris G 23 Apr '08

23 Apr '08

It's all done now. :-) I formatted the external USB drive as ext3 last night, it worked without a hitch. I have mounted the USB drive on the system in the garage and have exported it using NFS and mounted it on my desktop Fedora system. I changed my overnight backup script in /etc/cron.daily to write across the network to the USB drive on the MSI system and that ran flawlessly apart from one base directory I had forgotten to create. That works *much* better than trying to backup direct to the Freecom NAS drive (that is now the USB drive on the MSI system). Since the Freecom NAS only offered FAT32 lots of things failed to backup to it properly and I had to jump through hoops with rsync to get it to work at all. rdiff-backup just didn't want to know. -- Chris Green

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Can one force apt-get to download rather than use CD?
by Chris G 23 Apr '08

23 Apr '08

I'm finding my way slowly with Ubuntu Server, now I have a minor problem with apt-get. It wants me to put the Ubuntu Server CD into the machine which, since it's in the garage, is a bit of a pain. Can I force it *not* to use the CD but to always got to the internet to download packages I want to install? If so, how? -- Chris Green

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MSI Titan 700 via based system
by Chris G 22 Apr '08

22 Apr '08

Well the MSI Titan system I was talking about arrived yesterday, it's certainly very compact, but with all the 'bits' you could want. I have installed Ubuntu Server 7.10 on it, it installed without a hitch, not a single problem except that I somehow mis-typed my password during installation and couldn't log in when the system booted. Oops! However running 'rescue system' from the CD allowed me to run as root and modify the password file. It runs from a little 60 watt external power supply which is just luke warm after being on overnight so around 20 watts or so consumption seems about right. It's not incredibly quiet, the fan is quite noticeable with it sat on my desk, that's not an issue for me as it's going to be in the garage but it might be for some people. I've got an external disk drive sat on top of it at the moment so it may be a bit warmer than it should, the fan is CPU controlled. I've already got the external USB drive working with it, I haven't dared try and re-format it yet though (any answers on that front?). All in all I'm very pleased with it, exactly what I want at not too bad a price. -- Chris Green

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Lenovo Thinkcentre A61e USFF
by Tim Green 22 Apr '08

22 Apr '08

After Wayne's recommendation I bought one of those Lenovo Thinkcentre A61e USFF thingies. He's not kidding about expansion options - no PCI slots! I think there is a mico-PCI slot free next to the (laptop) memory slot, so WiFi is possible. On the back there are 3 audio ports, 4 USB, 1 Ethernet, one VGA and the DC power socket. That low price of £195.73 + VAT (=£229.98) also includes a sturdy keyboard, a very lightweight optical mouse, and an XP licence, but no CDs and no monitor. The concept is not far off a MacMini, but about three times larger, and black. I'll be installing Hardly Heroin when it's released at the end of the week, and I'll let you know how it goes. Regards, Tim Green.

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