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Monitoring HTTP redirects from Firefox
by Mark Rogers 24 Jan '08

24 Jan '08

Does anyone know of a way from within Firefox that I can capture a sequence of redirects and work out what's happening? I can use wget and see a sequence of 301/302 redirects that way, but I need to do this within a session so I really need to follow it in Firefox. Or Opera/IE I suppose (all on Ubuntu 8.04). Something obscure is happening on one of my sites when I follow an HTTPS link which is causing it to redirect back to HTTP, which is probably something to do with something in the session that I'm not getting chance to investigate. Therefore the ability not just to capture the sequence but also to step through it would be helpful. -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0845 45 89 555 Registered in England (0456 0902) at 13 Clarke Rd, Milton Keynes, MK1 1LG

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Scanners - 'manual scan'?
by James Freer 21 Jan '08

21 Jan '08

http://www.ebuyer.com/search/?strSearch=&bolShowAll=true&intStoreID=7&intCa… I'd be very grateful if someone could advise if any of these HP scanners are what i'd call manual scan. I've had an HP PSC500 which allows me to darken or lighten the scan. I wanted to replace this PSC500 as she's large and costs 2 pairs of ink cartridges per year. I bought a Canon Canoscan LIDE 90 last year to find that it only did 'auto scan' and for some things i tested it on it wasn't that good. There was a fault with it so i could return it thankfully. Looking at the specs i can't see if any are a 'manual scan' - be grateful for help. It may be they are all auto scan these days, which is fine for photos but not so good for scanning b/w drawings i've found. james

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Asus EEE PC Stock
by Martin Collins 20 Jan '08

20 Jan '08

Hi, Anyone managed to find stock on-line of the 4GB babies?? Clove tech (www.clove.co.uk) site doesn't say whether they have stock or not and the site is throwing up all sorts of errors. When you finally get to the checkout my little padlock has a red-line through it indicating it's not secure, so I'm staying well clear! Rgds, Martin

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Default sort order for KDE applications
by Chris G 19 Jan '08

19 Jan '08

Is there any way to set the default sort order for files/directories in KDE applications? I don't run KDE but I'm using some KDE programs (digikam in particular) and I'd like to know if it's possible to change the sort order of directories in pearticular. I'm not talking about within digikam, I'm talking about a general configuration parameter for all applications, there may not be such a thing of course but I was just hoping. -- Chris Green

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Web interface to apt-get upgrade
by Mark Rogers 19 Jan '08

19 Jan '08

Are there any web interfaces to "apt-get upgrade", or any other ways I can keep a system up to date simply but not automatically? The target is Linux based servers provided for clients which need to be kept up to date (eg because they'll be web facing) where they need a simple interface to allow them to apply updates which is no more complex that Windows Update. Otherwise I'll be under pressure to install the applications under Windows instead, something I'm keen to avoid! If none exist it doesn't sound too hard to implement other than ensuring it is secure (a minor detail!). I believe I can use the sudoers file to allow the apache user to run 'apt-get upgrade' as root without allowing it to do anything else? -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0845 45 89 555 Registered in England (0456 0902) at 13 Clarke Rd, Milton Keynes, MK1 1LG

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Re: [ALUG] Web interface to apt-get upgrade|ubuntu upgrades! testing?
by Bev Nicolson 18 Jan '08

18 Jan '08

Firefox has certainly been upgraded through the updates although we have yet to reach version 2. Bev. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wayne Stallwood" <ALUGlist(a)digimatic.co.uk> > To: ALUG <main(a)lists.alug.org.uk> > Subject: Re: [ALUG] Web interface to apt-get upgrade|ubuntu upgrades! testing? > Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 14:04:05 +0000 > > > > On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 11:44 +0000, James Freer wrote: > > > The question i would raise is "how much" testing do they do - > > i'd say not enough. They seem to put themselves under a lot of > > pressure to provide a new version every 6 months - why not just > > each year and thoroughly test. From what i have understood the > > upgrade is for security only. But then as i've noticed with 6.04 > > Firefox wasn't upgraded. > > > To be honest most migration problems will be relating to either out of > package meddling (strange configs, hand installed software conflicting > with registered packages, packages from third party resources etc) or > specific to some particular hardware (in itself hard to test against due > to the diversity of the x86 platform) Firefox in 6.06 was upgraded from > 5.10 I am sure. > > 1 yearly upgrades would mean that people would spend a lot of time > running out of date packages due to ubuntu's policy of not incrementing > software versions generally for ongoing updates to an existing > installation. This is I feel important as it provides a degree of > predictability in that if you say you are on Ubuntu 6.06 I can > reasonably safely make the assumption of kernel version x and gnome > version y etc. The LTS versions are an alternative of 6 monthly updates > at the cost of running older software..you takes your choice. > > Also...and this IMO is key. > > If you update yearly then really the software versions you are going to > want to include aren't going to be even released until the last half of > the existing Ubuntu versions lifetime..so what do you do for the first 6 > months given that some of the software versions you plan to include > don't even exist ? You can't test properly unless you are running the > shipping versions of the included packages. > > in answer you your individual points > > a] not something I have ever seen..sorry. Sounds like the Bios on both > machines was reporting 2 floppies as I cannot understand otherwise how > this would happen, did they have zip drives or something else that may > have been miss identified ? > > b] 6.06 surely ? In what way did the update get confused ? tbh a general > problem here would be all over the net considering the number of people > with machines still on LTS (me included) > > c] There always are problems on the forums with a new version I can't > remember if 7.04 was any worse or better than previous or latter > versions, I ran it for 6 months+ so it couldn't have been all bad, in > fact I remember updating to 7.04 a little bit earlier before official > release than I usually do..again hardware diversity and people only > posting when there is a problem and not when it works just fine distort > results. A place used by and large as a support forum isn't a great > place to gauge software quality because how do you know how many people > aren't having problems ? > > d] Never heard of this or experienced any synaptic problems with any of > the 5 or 6 7.10 systems I have used..again it would be interesting to > see linkage or specifics. > > e] This I want to see..a ps2 keyboard that provides a USB interface ? > Sounds hardly standard to me in fact I am not even sure how this would > work. Have you submitted a bug or asked for help in the forums as if > this keyboard is reasonably common I would expect a lot of interest. > > It sounds like I am defending Ubuntu rather aggressively here..it is not > my intention to suggest that Ubuntu is the best option always. If > another distro works out better for you or you prefer a 1 year release > schedule then the beauty of linux is that you are free to try it. Maybe > Debian's release strategy would be a better fit for you as you can make > a choice as to how "bleeding edge" you want your system and then have > rolling upgrades rather than a fixed "new distro" cycle. > > Kind Regards > Wayne > > > > _______________________________________________ > main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > http://www.alug.org.uk/ > http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main > Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above! > -- _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [ALUG] Modem permissions problem
by Dave Cooper 18 Jan '08

18 Jan '08

MJ Ray wrote: > Dave Cooper <dave(a)accuramatic.co.uk> wrote: > >> As su, chmod 777 /dev/ttyS0 fixes it, but only until it happens >> again. ttyS0 appears to be owned by root. It seems to me maybe it >> should be owned something/someone else to fix this permissions >> problem but I don't have a clue who. Can anyone put me right on this >> please? >> > > Look at what group ttyS0 belongs to. Try ls -l /dev/ttyS0 > The group name will probably be just after the "root". Then, add your > user(s) to that group with the command > usermod -a -G whatevergroupnameitsaid username > > Yes! That works! Thanks Paul, thanks MJ (hope your head's still above water in the soggy south-west?). Just one supplementary question? How does that usermod -a -G whatevergroupnameitsaid username work? Why doesn't it need to include any mention of ttyS0?? thanks, Dave > or if that doesn't work, edit /etc/group to add the username to the > end of the line starting with whatevergroupnameitsaid. > > Alternatively, change the permissions on /dev/ttyS0 forever. These > days, that's often done by udev, so grep -r /etc/udev/rules ttyS > to try to find where the MODE is set. > > Hope one of those works for you, >

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[ALUG Announce] 3rd Monday Monthly Ipswich Social Meeting : The Milestone, Woodbridge Road
by samwise 17 Jan '08

17 Jan '08

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- The monthly "Third Monday" ALUG Ipswich Social Meeting is back next week (Monday 21st January) at 20:00: The Milestone Beer House 5 Woodbridge Road IPSWICH IP4 2EA Tel: 01473 252425 Map/Directions URI: http://maps.google.co.uk/?q=IP4+2EA The Milestone pub is in the centre of Ipswich, near the now-defunct Odeon cinema and not far from The Regent Theatre. There is more information on the venue, including car parking info, on the ALUG wiki: http://www.alug.org.uk/wiki/moin.cgi/Meetings All are welcome, novices and experienced users. Hopefully, it shouldn't be too hard to find the pack, look for those huddled around a laptop! Feel free to ask for further information on the Main ALUG mailing list. This month's meeting is the 1st anniversary of the Ipswich ALUG meets since we re-started them last year! Well, the first meeting last year, wasn't widely publicised as I tried to gauge some interest, but it was technically a meet with an agenda, notes and everything! Anyway, this month will be a time for reflection and the bringing up of the amusing anecdotes of where it didn't quite go according to plan over the year (PeteT starting his GIMP tutorial without having any pictures to work with, Joe angering both Tracy and the RSPB in one fowl swoop etc.). If anyone has any feedback or suggestions for our group over the coming year, this'll be a good time to bring them up. Oh, and we've added Unreal Tournament and more playable ScummVM games to the list for anyone who wants to be anti-social. Might even get Doom3 or UT2004 up and running by then, too. Hope to see you there, Peter. ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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Modem permissions problem
by Dave Cooper 17 Jan '08

17 Jan '08

Hi. I'm trying to set up a class 2.0 US Robotics modem to handle faxes. I'm using efax-gtk on Mandriva Free 2008. The modem connects ok, but periodically I get the error: 'efax-0.9a: 19.30.27 Error: can't open serial port /dev/ttyS0: Permission denied efax-0.9a: 19.30.32 finished - unrecoverable error' As su, chmod 777 /dev/ttyS0 fixes it, but only until it happens again. ttyS0 appears to be owned by root. It seems to me maybe it should be owned something/someone else to fix this permissions problem but I don't have a clue who. Can anyone put me right on this please? Dave Cooper

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Synergy & Java
by James Taylor 17 Jan '08

17 Jan '08

Hey all, Has anyone here had any problems with Synergy and Java applications - My "server" is a Vista machine, and the clients are various, including XP and a knoppix box. If I open up a Java program on the "server", and give it focus (i.e. Netbeans or Eclipse) then the roll-over to other screens stops happening - I have to give focus to another app (thunderbird or firefox suffice) that then allows the rollover to occur. Has anyone else had anything like this happen to them? JT

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iPods & Linux
by Greg Thomas 17 Jan '08

17 Jan '08

My birthday present has arrived; an iPod Nano. I've a whole load of Music ripped from CDs over the years in various formats. What I'd like to do is rip them to a lossless codec now that disk space is so cheap. If I stuck to Windows, the choice would be easy; simply use iTunes, rip to ALAC, and sync with my iPod. What would the denizens of ALUG recommend to use with Linux? Ideally, I'd like a tool that would treat my lossless source library (FLAC?) as a master, and then re-encode that more can fit on to my iPod. Lets face it, I'm no audiophile, and probably can't tell the difference between a native CD and whatever the default codec/bitrate is for WIndows Media Player. Thoughts welcome, Greg [With apologies if this came up recently. I'm sure I've seen stuff on this before, but couldn't see anything in the archives]

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rsync & sudo
by Mark Rogers 17 Jan '08

17 Jan '08

Consider: rsync -avz user@host:/var/lib/mysql /var/lib/mysql Assuming the files I want to transfer are owned by mysql (both locally and remotely), and are not world-readable, how do I achieve this? I can use sudo at the local end: sudo rsync -avz user@host:/var/lib/mysql /var/lib/mysql .. to give me the necessary write access to /var/lib/locally, but how do I give rsync read access to the files at the remote host? The mysql user does not have login rights and therefore does not have a password, so I can't just use mysql@host, and there is no root user at the remote host either; if I wanted read access at that end I'd use sudo to get it. Local end is Ubuntu, remote host is FC4, if that's relevant. -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0845 45 89 555 Registered in England (0456 0902) at 13 Clarke Rd, Milton Keynes, MK1 1LG

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My mind is going .. ethernet rubber hood thingies
by Martyn Drake 16 Jan '08

16 Jan '08

Can somebody please remind me what the official name is for those little rubber hood things that cover the connector of an RJ45 ethernet cable is called? Regards, Martyn -- Phone : +44 (0)7866 450 752 Skype : mbdrake

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Re: [ALUG] Router
by John Seago 15 Jan '08

15 Jan '08

Thank you so much to all who replied to my message 'Router'. I am grateful for all the help freely offered. -- John Seago GNU/Linux Registered User No. #219566 http://counter.li.org/ () ascii ribbon campaign - against html mail - against microsoft attachments /\

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Router
by John Seago 15 Jan '08

15 Jan '08

I am connected to the internet via a Netgear DG834 Router, which has four outlets. Up until now I have been the only user. (thus I have never had any need to even consider the matter of more than a single user). My wife's god-daughter is due to vist shortly with her laptop, can I just plug her lap-top into one of the three vacant outlets and assign her the next number in the 192.168.0.X series? Do I need to turn the router off to plug in an extra outlet? As she is using Microsoft I presume there will be some kind of 'Wizard' that will take us through the necessary steps. -- John Seago GNU/Linux Registered User No. #219566 http://counter.li.org/ () ascii ribbon campaign - against html mail - against microsoft attachments /\

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Re: [ALUG] Router
by samwise 15 Jan '08

15 Jan '08

On 15/01/2008, John Seago <seago.john(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > I am connected to the internet via a Netgear DG834 Router, which has four > outlets. Up until now I have been the only user. (thus I have never had any > need to even consider the matter of more than a single user). My wife's > god-daughter is due to vist shortly with her laptop, can I just plug her > lap-top into one of the three vacant outlets and assign her the next number > in the 192.168.0.X series? Do I need to turn the router off to plug in an > extra outlet? > > As she is using Microsoft I presume there will be some kind of 'Wizard' that > will take us through the necessary steps. If you're running a DHCP server on the router (most do, out of the box) and the laptop is configured to ask for an IP by DHCP (most Windows installations are, out of the box), you should just be able to plug in the network cable and boot the laptop - it'll auto-configure everything when it notices the network is connected. Of course, if you're network is configured differently, you may need to do more work ... Peter.

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Laptop networking problem
by Barry Samuels 14 Jan '08

14 Jan '08

My brother has been given a Dell Inspiron laptop on which he has installed SUSE 10. He has 2 USB wireless adapters both of which are recognised by SUSE but he cannot get access to either his local network or the Internet. The laptop does gets an IP address from the wireless router via DHCP and he can traceroute to the router and his desktop. He cannot ping either the router or his desktop - there are no replies. He can, however, ping the laptop from his desktop and get replies. He cannot connect to any sites on the network using a browser. The router address is given as the default gateway on the laptop for wlan0 which is the wireless interface. SUSE is also using Network Manager to run things and complains about commands such as ifup or ifdown and ignores them. Configuration files on SUSE are not where I'd expect to see them on Debian so I'm at a bit of a loss and I've run out of ideas. -- Barry Samuels http://www.beenthere-donethat.org.uk The Unofficial Guide to Great Britain

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Re: [ALUG] Givernment consultation
by Christopher Dawkins 12 Jan '08

12 Jan '08

The Government would like your views on how children should be provided with IT. The e-consultation questionnaire at http://www.dcsf.gov.uk/consultations/conDetails.cfm?consultationId=1522 has a comment box at the end where you might care to suggest which operating systems might be most suitable for them. -- Christopher Dawkins Garnetts Corner, Braintree Road, Felsted, Dunmow, Essex CM6 3DS cchd(a)pjcd.org 07816 821659 01371 821076

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Re: [ALUG] main Digest, Vol 31, Issue 12
by mbm 11 Jan '08

11 Jan '08

Barry main-request(a)lists.alug.org.uk wrote: > The laptop does gets an IP address from the wireless router via DHCP > and he can traceroute to the router and his desktop. He cannot ping > either the router or his desktop - there are no replies. He can, > however, ping the laptop from his desktop and get replies. He cannot > connect to any sites on the network using a browser. If the laptop gets an address and can then reach locally connected devices, then networking is obviously up and running. The ICMP failure sounds to me like it could be a firewall issue. Try disabling the SUSE default firewall in YAST (SUSE's configuration tool) as a first step. Also fire up ethereal/wireshark and take a look at what is going where. And are you sure that the router and desktop are configured to respond to ICMP echo requests anyway? The ICMP behaviour may be a symptom of configuration elsewhere. Can he ping an external address (google) from 1) the desktop, 2) the laptop? Can the browser connect to a known web server's IP address (DNS issues?) > > The router address is given as the default gateway on the laptop for > wlan0 which is the wireless interface. SUSE is also using Network > Manager to run things and complains about commands such as ifup or > ifdown and ignores them. That confirms that the DHCP server is correctly dishing out the necessary routing details and the laptop is responding appropriately. SUSE offers two ways of handling networking setup: the traditional ifup/ifdown method, or user controlled with network manager. It looks as if you have the latter configured so SUSE /will/ ignore ifup/ifdown directives and will complain with something like "network interface is managed from network manager" if you try otherwise. > > Configuration files on SUSE are not where I'd expect to see them on > Debian so I'm at a bit of a loss and I've run out of ideas. Configuration files can be found in /etc/sysconfig/network. But I'd advise against manual edits because SUSE expects YAST to configure these (and other /etc/sysconfig files). Which version of SUSE 10 are you running? I used to use SUSE regularly up until about 9.3. When 10.0 came out, Novell managed to completely cock up what had been a good configuration tool (YAST) and I stopped using it. I still have copies of 10.0, openSUSE 10.1 10.2 and 10.3 which I can fire up and play with if necessary. and you get back to me with further details. Mick -- This is a Microsoft free zone. Please do not send me Microsoft Word Documents. For some reasons, see: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html http://www.goldmark.org/netrants/no-word/attach.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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How to make 'dynamic' web pages update when changed?
by Chris G 07 Jan '08

07 Jan '08

I'm sure there must be a very simple answer to this question but I can't see it at the moment. I have a number of web pages that are generated 'on the fly' by a python script which is basically a wrapper for rst2html.py with a few goodies of my own added in. I have added index.rst to the DirectoryIndex directive in my apache configuration file so that the index.rst file (if present) is automatically converted to HTML and displayed when you give the URL for a directory. However this means (at present anyway) that if I change the index.rst file apache doesn't refresh the display when you click on refresh, it only sees the change if you force update by holding shift down when clicking on refresh. Is there any way around this problem where the displayed file is 'virtual' and the originating file name is not in the URL? -- Chris Green

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Cambridge and East Anglian Python Users Group
by Richard Lewis 07 Jan '08

07 Jan '08

Dear ALUG, The Cambridge and East Anglian Python Users group will hold its third "first Tuesday" social meeting on Tuesday 8th January at the Carlton Arms (Carlton Way, Cambridge, CB4 2BY). Social meetings will be held on first Tuesdays from now on, but we decided to re-schedule January's meeting from New Year's Day to this week! People intend to arrive from around 20:00 and I will be going from Norwich by train if anyone would like to join me. Please feel free to contact me on- or off-list regarding this if you like. Cheers, Richard -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Richard Lewis - UEA, MUS PG http://www.richard-lewis.me.uk/ JID: ironchicken(a)jabber.earth.li -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

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[ALUG Announce] 2nd Thurs Pub Meet 10th Jan
by Richard Lewis 07 Jan '08

07 Jan '08

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- Dear ALUG, The monthly second Thursday social meeting of ALUG will take place on * Thursday 10th January * at The Reindeer (10 Dereham Road, Norwich, NR2 4AY; tel. 01603 762223). It's very near the junction of Dereham Road and the Norwich inner ring road (Grapes Hill) and serves a selection of real ales, nice pub food (if you fancy going early to eat) and coffee. I intend to be there from about 20:00. Others may be there earlier. We should have a table reserved at the back of the pub just to the left of the bar. We look forward to seeing you there. Cheers, Richard -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Richard Lewis - UEA, MUS PG http://www.richard-lewis.me.uk/ JID: ironchicken(a)jabber.earth.li -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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Re: [ALUG] Firefox
by Bev Nicolson 06 Jan '08

06 Jan '08

What happens now is that it crashes if I play a Youtube clip. Somewhere else it's suggested that you kill the application (is that the right term?) but how do I do that? (Seems a better idea than waiting for ages till it decides that Firefox is not responding and lets me know... sigh.) Thanks. Bev. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bev Nicolson" <bnicolson(a)operamail.com> > To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > Subject: Re: [ALUG] Firefox > Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 17:54:31 +0100 > > > Well if this is so I'll hang on and upgrade. I do hope so - it will > make it all much easier/less painful! Thanks, Mark. > Bev. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mark Rogers" <mark(a)quarella.co.uk> > > To: ALUG <main(a)lists.alug.org.uk> > > Subject: Re: [ALUG] Firefox > > Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 12:21:14 +0000 > > > > > > Wayne Stallwood wrote: > > > The main problem you have now is your upgrade path is pretty complicated > > > because the supported path would be Dapper>Edgy>Feisty>Gutsy which is a > > > lot of effort (in reality it may be possible to skip some of those but > > > the official upgrade instructions are pretty clear in stating that only > > > an upgrade from the previous version is supported). I am hoping that > > > there will be a direct upgrade path between LTS versions so you would be > > > able to do Dapper>Hardy next April..But I wouldn't hold your breath on > > > that being the case. > > > > > > > My understanding is that this is indeed the case - 6.06LTS -> 8.04LTS > > will be supported in a single step. > > > > I couldn't find anything "official" in a quick Google but this is a start: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com/msg00756.html > > > > "Hardy will be a special release in this respect since we'll be > > support upgrading from both 7.10 and 6.06. It is not trivial, but it's a > > high priority for us." > > > > -- > > Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0845 45 89 555 > > Registered in England (0456 0902) at 13 Clarke Rd, Milton Keynes, MK1 1LG > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > > http://www.alug.org.uk/ > > http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main > > Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above! > > > > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: > Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com > > Powered by Outblaze > > _______________________________________________ > main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > http://www.alug.org.uk/ > http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main > Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above! > -- _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com Powered by Outblaze

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Installing VYM version 1.10.0 |installing a .deb for the first time
by James Freer 05 Jan '08

05 Jan '08

Running ubuntu 7.04 - wishing to install vym-1.10.0 (came out sept 2007). I can only assume that it wasn't early enough to be included in gutsy... had a look in the archives and was hoping i could install gutsy. As it seems a number of folk have had problems with gutsy i thought i would just stay with feisty [which has been fine with no problems so far]! I'd be grateful if someone could check that i'm doing the correct procedure! http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=127802&package_id=139… downloaded to desktop the file vym-1.10.0-18.i586.rpm [or should i use vym-1.10.0tar.bz2 and not convert to debian?] installed alien in terminal type $alien -c vym-1.10.0-18.i586.rpm # -c tells it to remove any installation or removal scripts [Should then have a .deb package?] $sudo dpkg vym-1.10.0-18.i586.deb [it can't be that easy - i wanted to check before i mess up somehow! What about other dependencies] thanks james

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apache security
by Chris G 04 Jan '08

04 Jan '08

I am trying to tighten up my apache security a bit. Looking at the "Security Tips" page in the apache documentation doesn't help a *lot* because it's mostly talking about a multi-user system where you are trying to make apache secure against the local users. My situation (like a lot of other Linux users I suspect) is that I am the only user of the system so, apart from my stupidity, local users are not a serious risk. The only local user knows the root password anyway! :-) What I'm after is making it so that the outside world (my router allows access for http requests) can only see the web pages that I want them to see. I also want it to be arranged so that I'm unlikely to mess up this security inadvertently. The one thing that the apache Security Tips suggests that does seem relevant to my situation is to do:- <Directory /> Order Deny,Allow Deny from all </Directory> instead of the default:- <Directory /> Options FollowSymLinks AllowOverride None </Directory> Which means that if I point a symlink somewhere stupid by mistake the outside world might access almost anything. Have I understood the above right? It certainly seems to me that what I should do is set things up so that apache can get at nothing and then open up specific directories. One other thing I want is to allow local access only to most of my web pages which is easy enough with something like:- <Directory /var/www/html/maxine> AllowOverride None Order Deny,Allow Deny from all Allow from 192.168.1 193.128.168.194 </Directory> and I'll open up (say) /var/www/html/public to allow 'all' access. Is it worth being this careful/paranoid? Is apache's security good enough for the above to be effective? -- Chris Green

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