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Re: Asus P5W DH Deluxe mainboard and IDE interfaces
by Barry Samuels 17 Feb '07

17 Feb '07

I've had to have a two day break from this thread because I decided to try my two hard drives on the JMicron interface and the DVD drive on the Intel interface. The mainboard manual says the JMicron interface supports up to 2 devices. The short version of the story is that I ended up with the file systems on both drives comprehensively trashed! Linux is normally very good at recovering from file system errors but it couldn't do anything with these. The long story: After swapping interfaces I booted the machine using a Knoppix v5.1 CD, because I'd need to change device names in a couple of files, but went into the BIOS first. The DVD registered as the first primary drive in the first main menu screen as expected but it seems very odd that once in the BIOS any devices connected to the JMicron interface are not listed anywhere. Drives are set as Master and Slave. They are shown, briefly for about 5 seconds, just before entering the BIOS and it was here that I noticed that only one hard drive was shown after the heading 'HDD:' but the name that followed was just a random collection of letters and numbers, the font was also broken up (characters had gaps in them), and that line of text was flashing. I left the BIOS and continued with the boot into Linux and tried mounting one of the partitions. On seeing the message that 'the filesystem has errors' I didn't go any further but closed down the system. I then swapped the cables back to their original positions and tried to boot but it hung a short way into the process. I decided to swap the primary drive and DVD drive back into my old machine and boot from the same Live CD to examine the hard drive. The contents were basically rubbish! I spent quite a lot of yesterday restoring from tape which, as there is a fair amount of data, was a rather slow business. The tape was up to date as far as early yesterday morning so I lost a couple of unimportant emails but that was it. So I'm not over impressed with the JMicron interface so far. -- Barry Samuels http://www.beenthere-donethat.org.uk The Unofficial Guide to Great Britain

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Re: [ALUG] Re: Asus P5W DH Deluxe mainboard and IDE interfaces
by Barry Samuels 16 Feb '07

16 Feb '07

On 16/02/07 10:15:17, Eur Ing Chris Green wrote: > On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 09:42:57AM +0000, Barry Samuels wrote: > > > > On 16/02/07 08:37:00, Eur Ing Chris Green wrote: > > BTW I took a look at the Asus 5W HD manual and there are a couple of > interesting little snippets:- > > Under the JMicron IDE interface description it says "This > connector does not support ATAPI devices", so you can't put CD > (or DVD) drives on it I guess. Yes I've seen that but it will boot and run from a Live CD on that interface and I have seen comments from other Linux users about trying to get CD/DVD drives working on that interface. So I'm not sure quite what it means. > Under the Intel IDE interface description it says "Install > devices on this connector (PRI_IDE) first, then install on the > JMicron IDE connector, ...". The Intel interface had the DVD drive on it and the two hard drives on the JMicron so that should satisfy that requirement. It would be useful if I could trace the problem to something that I had done. Then, at least, I would have a satisfactory explanation. -- Barry Samuels http://www.beenthere-donethat.org.uk The Unofficial Guide to Great Britain

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Samba / Machintosh issue
by Stuart Bailey 15 Feb '07

15 Feb '07

Hi , I have a customer with a small office network They are running debian on their server, and have a mixture of macs and windows workstations. The server is using samba to shared a number of network drives via SMB. the Windows machines can see and browse all of the workgroup, and all machines / shares within the workgroup. The Macs show nothing when browsing the network, but can mount the shares if the path is entered manually. Also, if I go to the Mac console, smbstatus, smbtree, smbclient and nmblookup all seem to produce the correct results. The macs are not listed in the workgroup. The Macs are running OSX 10.4.8. Is this just a Mac issue, or do I need to configure something special in Samba for this to work? Apparently, it did work before all the machines were switched off for Christmas. I've now exhausted my knowledge of Macs - any help, direction etc would be appreciated. Many thanks, Stuart. -- --------------------------------------- Stuart Bailey BSc (hons) CEng CITP MBCS LinuSoft (Owner) Linux Specialist (0845) 6583563 http://www.linusoft.co.uk ----------------------------------------

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RE: [ALUG] Hello
by Tracy Dickerson 14 Feb '07

14 Feb '07

Sounds just grand Peter. I will look forward to the talks, should be very interesting and informative. I can see I might be more in tune with my 'puter before long which will be very nice. We do not really get on to be fair. lol Will be good to meet other people who use or have used Fedora because when I get in a muddle, my 'sysadmin' lives in Worcester! Looking forward very much to Monday. Tracy. -----Original Message----- From: main-bounces(a)lists.alug.org.uk [mailto:main-bounces@lists.alug.org.uk] On Behalf Of samwise Sent: 14 February 2007 16:07 To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk Subject: Re: [ALUG] Hello > Is there any kind of agenda, or will this one be a meet and greet? Well, there has been one small meeting so far, before I started publicising the LUG more widely and the five members who attended that one expressed an interesting in having a half-hour or so interactive presentation by a member on whatever topic interested them - how to compile software, build your own kernel, run virtual machines, use an iPod, archive a CD collection etc. However, as there may be lots of new people (hopefully), I think we'll keep it fairly flexible again for this one and just get an idea of what everyone else wants to get out of our LUG too. So, I've said I'll bring along a laptop with some information about using a virtual server under Kubuntu, but we may not get into that. There are also a few other things we need to finalise, but it will be mostly meet & greet. > Although I have been using differing flavours of Red Hat and Fedora > over a fair few years, I would not say I have much experience with the > innards of them. I would like to learn more about using the command > prompt as I get lost very very easily. So if some of my questions > could get answered along the way I would be very happy indeed. No problem, Tracy! We have at least one other regular Fedora user and I've used a number of variants of it myself as well ... I'm sure you'll get some new things to try before the meet's over. :) Ooh ... I've just had an idea - maybe we should have a regular Agony Aunt slot in the meeting, for people to tell everyone else what they're stuck with! :) If we get a wiki up and running, I can see that coming in handy with that! Peter. _______________________________________________ main(a)lists.alug.org.uk http://www.alug.org.uk/ http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above!

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RE: [ALUG] Hello
by Tracy Dickerson 14 Feb '07

14 Feb '07

Hey Peter, I am sure no disappointment will occur. I hope that the interest is significant enough for the meetings to continue. Is there any kind of agenda, or will this one be a meet and greet? Although I have been using differing flavours of Red Hat and Fedora over a fair few years, I would not say I have much experience with the innards of them. I would like to learn more about using the command prompt as I get lost very very easily. So if some of my questions could get answered along the way I would be very happy indeed. T -----Original Message----- From: main-bounces(a)lists.alug.org.uk [mailto:main-bounces@lists.alug.org.uk] On Behalf Of samwise Sent: 13 February 2007 17:14 To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk Subject: Re: [ALUG] Hello Hi, Tracy. I hope we won't disappoint! I think there's been quite a bit of interest so far, so I'm hoping we shouldn't struggle for numbers. Next week should be an interesting meet-up ... ! Peter. _______________________________________________ main(a)lists.alug.org.uk http://www.alug.org.uk/ http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above!

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Hello
by Tracy Dickerson 13 Feb '07

13 Feb '07

Hello All, I am interested in the potential for a Ipswich LUG. I find it impossible to be able to make the Norwich meets, and am a silent member of the Malvern LUG mailing list where a friend is a member. They have very interesting chats and I hoping that the Ipswich meets will be just as interesting. Laters, Tracy Dickerson QA LudoLogic This electronic message contains information from Ludologic Ltd which may be privileged and confidential. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual(s) or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. If you have received this electronic message in error, please notify us by telephone or email (to the number or address above) immediately.

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Asus P5W DH Deluxe mainboard and IDE interfaces
by Barry Samuels 13 Feb '07

13 Feb '07

I have recently changed my mainboard to an Asus P5W DH Deluxe which includes both SATA and IDE interfaces. There are 2 IDE connectors of which one is controlled by an Intel chip and the other by a JMicron chip. I have two IDE hard drives (hda and hdb) both on the same cable and connected to the Intel interface. I also have an IDE DVD Writer connected to the JMicron interface. When Linux (kernel 2.6.20) boots it does not recognise the DVD Writer although I can get Knoppix 5.1 to boot from the DVD drive if I append irqpoll at the boot prompt after which everything seems to work. If I append irqpoll at the normal Linux boot prompt I get 'lost interrupt' messages when the system is starting and it seems to hang. It also lists, in the logs, a device sda which does not exist. There is a SCSI card installed which drives a DAT tape drive but nothing else. There are no SATA devices connected. Is there a way around this JMicron problem (DVD not recognised) or do I have to wait for the JMicron drivers in the kernel to be improved? What is this spurious sda device? Kernel settings: # # ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support # CONFIG_IDE=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE=y # # Serial ATA (prod) and Parallel ATA (experimental) drivers # CONFIG_ATA=y CONFIG_SATA_AHCI=y CONFIG_ATA_PIIX=y CONFIG_SATA_INTEL_COMBINED=y CONFIG_ATA_GENERIC=y CONFIG_PATA_JMICRON=y CONFIG_PATA_MPIIX=y Log extract: kernel: ahci 0000:02:00.0: version 2.0 kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:02:00.0[A] -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 18 kernel: PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:02:00.0 to 64 kernel: ahci 0000:02:00.0: AHCI 0001.0000 32 slots 2 ports 3 Gbps 0x3 impl SATA mode kernel: ahci 0000:02:00.0: flags: 64bit ncq pm led clo pmp pio slum part kernel: ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xF8824100 ctl 0x0 bmdma 0x0 irq 18 kernel: ata2: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xF8824180 ctl 0x0 bmdma 0x0 irq 18 kernel: scsi2 : ahci kernel: ata1: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300) kernel: scsi3 : ahci kernel: ata2: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300) kernel: ata_piix 0000:00:1f.1: version 2.00ac7 kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1f.1[A] -> GSI 22 (level, low) -> IRQ 19 kernel: ata: 0x1F0 IDE port busy kernel: ata: conflict with ide0 kernel: PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1f.1 to 64 kernel: ata3: DUMMY kernel: ata4: PATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x170 ctl 0x376 bmdma 0xFFA8 irq 15 kernel: scsi4 : ata_piix kernel: scsi5 : ata_piix kernel: ATA: abnormal status 0x7F on port 0x177 kernel: ata_piix 0000:00:1f.2: MAP [ P0 P2 P1 P3 ] kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1f.2[B] -> GSI 23 (level, low) -> IRQ 20 kernel: PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1f.2 to 64 kernel: ata5: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xE400 ctl 0xE082 bmdma 0xD880 irq 20 kernel: ata6: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xE000 ctl 0xDC02 bmdma 0xD888 irq 20 kernel: scsi6 : ata_piix kernel: ATA: abnormal status 0x7F on port 0xE407 kernel: scsi7 : ata_piix kernel: ata6.00: ATA-6, max UDMA/133, 640 sectors: LBA kernel: ata6.00: ata6: dev 0 multi count 1 kernel: ata6.00: Drive reports diagnostics failure. This may indicate a drive kernel: ata6.00: fault or invalid emulation. Contact drive vendor for information. kernel: ata6.00: configured for UDMA/133 kernel: scsi 7:0:0:0: Direct-Access ATA Config Disk RGL1 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5 kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:02:00.1[B] -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16 kernel: PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:02:00.1 to 64 kernel: ata7: PATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0xAC00 ctl 0xA882 bmdma 0xA400 irq 16 kernel: ata8: PATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0xA800 ctl 0xA482 bmdma 0xA408 irq 16 kernel: scsi8 : pata_jmicron kernel: ata7.00: ATAPI, max UDMA/33 kernel: ata7.00: qc timeout (cmd 0xef) kernel: ata7.00: failed to set xfermode (err_mask=0x4) kernel: ata7.00: limiting speed to UDMA/25 kernel: ata7: failed to recover some devices, retrying in 5 secs kernel: ata7.00: qc timeout (cmd 0xef) kernel: ata7.00: failed to set xfermode (err_mask=0x4) kernel: ata7.00: limiting speed to PIO0 kernel: ata7: failed to recover some devices, retrying in 5 secs kernel: ata7.00: qc timeout (cmd 0xef) kernel: ata7.00: failed to set xfermode (err_mask=0x4) kernel: ata7.00: disabled kernel: scsi9 : pata_jmicron kernel: ATA: abnormal status 0x7F on port 0xA807 kernel: serio: i8042 KBD port at 0x60,0x64 irq 1 kernel: serio: i8042 AUX port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12 kernel: mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice kernel: input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /class/input/input0 kernel: TCP cubic registered kernel: Starting balanced_irq kernel: Using IPI Shortcut mode kernel: Time: tsc clocksource has been installed. kernel: kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds kernel: EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. kernel: VFS: Mounted root (ext3 filesystem) readonly. kernel: Freeing unused kernel memory: 188k freed kernel: NET: Registered protocol family 1 kernel: SCSI device sda: 640 512-byte hdwr sectors (0 MB) kernel: sda: Write Protect is off kernel: sda: Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00 kernel: SCSI device sda: write cache: disabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA kernel: SCSI device sda: 640 512-byte hdwr sectors (0 MB) kernel: sda: Write Protect is off kernel: sda: Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00 kernel: SCSI device sda: write cache: disabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA kernel: sda: unknown partition table kernel: sd 7:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sda kernel: st: Version 20061107, fixed bufsize 32768, s/g segs 256 kernel: st 1:0:6:0: Attached scsi tape st0 kernel: st 1:0:6:0: st0: try direct i/o: yes (alignment 512 B) After reading a lot on the Internet and seeing other people with similar problems with JMicron and no solutions I'm not expecting much but there's no harm in asking. Suggestions will be very much appreciated. -- Barry Samuels http://www.beenthere-donethat.org.uk The Unofficial Guide to Great Britain

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Re: [ALUG] Asus P5W DH Deluxe mainboard and IDE interfaces
by Barry Samuels 13 Feb '07

13 Feb '07

Thanks for your reply Richard. On 13/02/07 14:10:53, Richard wrote: > Hey Barry, I am in the same boat, with a P5B at work, and a P5B > deluxe at home. A few people have already stupidly admitted to > "skipping" proper JMICRON support in the 2.6 kernel. I wonder if that means that things will eventually improve? > Apparently Fedora Core 6 works but I don't know if that is with the > following command: > > linux all-generic-ide irqpoll I've tried that and it does work BUT (there had to be a but didn't there?) I get these messages in the logs: kernel: hdi: status error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } kernel: ide: failed opcode was: unknown kernel: hdi: drive not ready for command kernel: hdi: status error: status=0x58 { Dri veReady SeekComplete DataRequest } kernel: ide: failed opcode was: unknown kernel: hdi: drive not ready for command kernel: hdi: status error: status=0x58 { Dri veReady SeekComplete DataRequest } kernel: ide: failed opcode was: unknown kernel: hdi: drive not ready for command kernel: hdi: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appear s confused (ireason = 0x01). Trying to recover by ending request. kernel: cdrom: hdi: mrw address space DMA se lected kernel: ISO 9660 Extensions: Microsoft Jolie t Level 3 kernel: ISO 9660 Extensions: RRIP_1991A kernel: hdi: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01). Trying to recover by ending request. The 'drive appears confused' keeps repeating at intervals which I find a little worrying especially when it comes to writing a DVD. I imagine that this stems from the 'irqpoll' and the drive doesn't know what to do about interrupts not meant for it. > Most people suggest messing around with the AHCI settings, I have > tried every possible combination and I can't get ubuntu 6.06, 6.10, > or 7.04 (herd 3) to boot and install. > > I am pondering replacing the board for an Nvidia chipset or using a > separate SATA controller, as ALL my drives are sata! But with you > (all IDE drives) you should get somewhere by messing around with the > AHCI settings in the BIOS. As this problem is related to the JMicron controller I have changed the settings for that i.e Basic or AHCI and it has no effect. -- Barry Samuels http://www.beenthere-donethat.org.uk The Unofficial Guide to Great Britain > Richard/Teatime > > > On Tue, 2007-02-13 at 13:53 +0000, Barry Samuels wrote: > > I have recently changed my mainboard to an Asus P5W DH Deluxe which > > includes both SATA and IDE interfaces. There are 2 IDE connectors > of > > > which one is controlled by an Intel chip and the other by a JMicron > > chip. > > > > I have two IDE hard drives (hda and hdb) both on the same cable and > > connected to the Intel interface. I also have an IDE DVD Writer > > connected to the JMicron interface. > > > > When Linux (kernel 2.6.20) boots it does not recognise the DVD > Writer although I can get Knoppix 5.1 to boot from the DVD drive if I > append irqpoll at the boot prompt after which everything seems to > work. If I append irqpoll at the normal Linux boot prompt I get 'lost > interrupt' messages when the system is starting and it seems to hang. > > > > It also lists, in the logs, a device sda which does not exist. > There is a SCSI card installed which drives a DAT tape drive but > nothing else. > > > > There are no SATA devices connected. > > > > Is there a way around this JMicron problem (DVD not recognised) or > do I have to wait for the JMicron drivers in the kernel to be > improved? > > > > What is this spurious sda device? > > > > Kernel settings: > > > > # > > # ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support > > # > > CONFIG_IDE=y > > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE=y > > > > # > > # Serial ATA (prod) and Parallel ATA (experimental) drivers > > # > > CONFIG_ATA=y > > CONFIG_SATA_AHCI=y > > CONFIG_ATA_PIIX=y > > CONFIG_SATA_INTEL_COMBINED=y > > CONFIG_ATA_GENERIC=y > > CONFIG_PATA_JMICRON=y > > CONFIG_PATA_MPIIX=y > > > > > > Log extract: > > > > kernel: ahci 0000:02:00.0: version 2.0 > > kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:02:00.0[A] -> GSI 17 (level, low) > -> > > IRQ 18 > > kernel: PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:02:00.0 to 64 > > kernel: ahci 0000:02:00.0: AHCI 0001.0000 32 slots 2 ports 3 Gbps > 0x3 > > impl SATA mode > > kernel: ahci 0000:02:00.0: flags: 64bit ncq pm led clo pmp pio slum > > part > > kernel: ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xF8824100 ctl 0x0 bmdma 0x0 > irq > 18 > > kernel: ata2: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xF8824180 ctl 0x0 bmdma 0x0 > irq > 18 > > kernel: scsi2 : ahci > > kernel: ata1: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300) > > kernel: scsi3 : ahci > > kernel: ata2: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300) > > kernel: ata_piix 0000:00:1f.1: version 2.00ac7 > > kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1f.1[A] -> GSI 22 (level, low) > -> > > IRQ 19 > > kernel: ata: 0x1F0 IDE port busy > > kernel: ata: conflict with ide0 > > kernel: PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1f.1 to 64 > > kernel: ata3: DUMMY > > kernel: ata4: PATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x170 ctl 0x376 bmdma 0xFFA8 > irq > 15 > > kernel: scsi4 : ata_piix > > kernel: scsi5 : ata_piix > > kernel: ATA: abnormal status 0x7F on port 0x177 > > kernel: ata_piix 0000:00:1f.2: MAP [ P0 P2 P1 P3 ] > > kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1f.2[B] -> GSI 23 (level, low) > -> > > IRQ 20 > > kernel: PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1f.2 to 64 > > kernel: ata5: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xE400 ctl 0xE082 bmdma 0xD880 > irq > > 20 > > kernel: ata6: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xE000 ctl 0xDC02 bmdma 0xD888 > irq > > 20 > > kernel: scsi6 : ata_piix > > kernel: ATA: abnormal status 0x7F on port 0xE407 > > kernel: scsi7 : ata_piix > > kernel: ata6.00: ATA-6, max UDMA/133, 640 sectors: LBA > > kernel: ata6.00: ata6: dev 0 multi count 1 > > kernel: ata6.00: Drive reports diagnostics failure. This may > indicate a > > drive > > kernel: ata6.00: fault or invalid emulation. Contact drive vendor > for > > information. > > kernel: ata6.00: configured for UDMA/133 > > kernel: scsi 7:0:0:0: Direct-Access ATA Config Disk > RGL1 > > PQ: 0 ANSI: 5 > > kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:02:00.1[B] -> GSI 16 (level, low) > -> > > IRQ 16 > > kernel: PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:02:00.1 to 64 > > kernel: ata7: PATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0xAC00 ctl 0xA882 bmdma 0xA400 > irq > > 16 > > kernel: ata8: PATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0xA800 ctl 0xA482 bmdma 0xA408 > irq > > 16 > > kernel: scsi8 : pata_jmicron > > kernel: ata7.00: ATAPI, max UDMA/33 > > kernel: ata7.00: qc timeout (cmd 0xef) > > kernel: ata7.00: failed to set xfermode (err_mask=0x4) > > kernel: ata7.00: limiting speed to UDMA/25 > > kernel: ata7: failed to recover some devices, retrying in 5 secs > > kernel: ata7.00: qc timeout (cmd 0xef) > > kernel: ata7.00: failed to set xfermode (err_mask=0x4) > > kernel: ata7.00: limiting speed to PIO0 > > kernel: ata7: failed to recover some devices, retrying in 5 secs > > kernel: ata7.00: qc timeout (cmd 0xef) > > kernel: ata7.00: failed to set xfermode (err_mask=0x4) > > kernel: ata7.00: disabled > > kernel: scsi9 : pata_jmicron > > kernel: ATA: abnormal status 0x7F on port 0xA807 > > kernel: serio: i8042 KBD port at 0x60,0x64 irq 1 > > kernel: serio: i8042 AUX port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12 > > kernel: mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice > > kernel: input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /class/input/input0 > > kernel: TCP cubic registered > > kernel: Starting balanced_irq > > kernel: Using IPI Shortcut mode > > kernel: Time: tsc clocksource has been installed. > > kernel: kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds > > kernel: EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. > > kernel: VFS: Mounted root (ext3 filesystem) readonly. > > kernel: Freeing unused kernel memory: 188k freed > > kernel: NET: Registered protocol family 1 > > kernel: SCSI device sda: 640 512-byte hdwr sectors (0 MB) > > kernel: sda: Write Protect is off > > kernel: sda: Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00 > > kernel: SCSI device sda: write cache: disabled, read cache: > enabled, > > > doesn't support DPO or FUA > > kernel: SCSI device sda: 640 512-byte hdwr sectors (0 MB) > > kernel: sda: Write Protect is off > > kernel: sda: Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00 > > kernel: SCSI device sda: write cache: disabled, read cache: > enabled, > > > doesn't support DPO or FUA > > kernel: sda: unknown partition table > > kernel: sd 7:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sda > > kernel: st: Version 20061107, fixed bufsize 32768, s/g segs 256 > > kernel: st 1:0:6:0: Attached scsi tape st0 > > kernel: st 1:0:6:0: st0: try direct i/o: yes (alignment 512 B) > > > > After reading a lot on the Internet and seeing other people with > > similar problems with JMicron and no solutions I'm not expecting > much > > but > > there's no harm in asking. > > > > Suggestions will be very much appreciated.

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Resonance with Norfolk wavelength
by ted.harding＠nessie.mcc.ac.uk 13 Feb '07

13 Feb '07

Hi Folks, An interesting out-of-region experience for you ... On Sunday I was driving down to London along the A10. As I got further South, the pre-set stations on my car radio (Radio4/Norwich, Radio4/Peterborough, Classic FM, Radio3, even Radio Cambridgeshire, and Radio Norfolk) all got worse and worse. South of the Stevenage-Stansted line they were useless, and I had switched off. Then, stuck in traffic around Wood Green, I thought I'd switch it on again and see if those frequencies would pick up anything in the London area. All failed -- with the exception of the Radio Norfolk frequency (104.4 FM). I picked up, loud and clear, "Resonance104.4FM": http://www.resonancefm.com/index1.htm "Resonance 104.4fm is London's first radio art station, brought to you by London Musicians' Collective." It was intriguing listening, so I switched it on again on the way back, and even sat through an hour of music mixed with talk in a language I didn't recognise, which turned out to be "Rasaa: Iranian program with music, discussion and chat" devised by the "Iranian Community Group". So I tracked the station down when I got home (google on "104.4 FM"). The listings (accessible from the above web site) show the variety of the transmissions. Pity I can't listen on the radio from here -- Radio Norfolk wins, of course -- but I'll be trying their "listen live" resources (Ogg/Real/MP3) when they start transmitting later today. Best wishes to all, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <ted.harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 13-Feb-07 Time: 09:58:01 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------

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A question about encryption/security
by Eur Ing Chris Green 12 Feb '07

12 Feb '07

If I use the encrypt/decrypt functions in vi (or a vi clone) how secure is the resulting encrypted data likely to be? I know that this encryption is not inherently very secure as it's just a "one-rotor machine designed along the lines of the German Enigma, but with a 256-element rotor". However given that the encrypted file has no clue to indicate that it's encrypted or the algorithm used to encrypt it I think it would actually be rather difficult to decrypt. The potential code breaker has to:- Identify the file as being the one with the required data. Guess the algorithm used to encrypt it. Know the contents (or part of the contents). Am I right in my thinking or does a file encrypted in this way show any clues to how it was created? -- Chris Green

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Re: Ipswich LUG
by John Seago 11 Feb '07

11 Feb '07

To reiterate my point on message traffic on this mailing list. On Monday I received ONE message from SLUG, this follows the SINGLE message I received on Friday. Although there are other LUG's in SLUG, nominally, covers the whole country, over 5 million potential members, two messages in four days. -- John Seago GNU/Linux Registered User No. #219566 http://counter.li.org/ () ascii ribbon campaign - against html mail /\ - against microsoft attachments

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easyubuntu / totem movie player
by Barry Chater 10 Feb '07

10 Feb '07

Hi Installed Easyubuntu it downloaded lots of stuff did not fix it, still says plug ins missing. gzine engine fails to start. do you think worth removing movie player and starting again. also did not add medibuntu GPG key as instructed as did not want to interfere with package software programs and repositories. have not tried the MP3 converter in sound juicer yet Barry

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your help on antivirus software and file removal
by Barry Chater 08 Feb '07

08 Feb '07

Hi Just a quick thank you to all that helped me with my problems with removing files and installing Avast antivirus software. Thanks Richard for your detailed help on directories this helped me install avast antivirus and get it running.Not bad for a newbie. A big thank you to all of you even if i have not mentioned your names i am truly grateful. my next things to sort out are to get movie player to play DVDs, downloaded several plug ins but up till now no success. still plenty of time to play with it though. also can get sound juicer to convert to MP3 but it will not play back, must be wrong plug in,rhythm box plays other Mp3 file OK Barry

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Keypad codes and xev
by Peter Alcibiades 07 Feb '07

07 Feb '07

Can anyone explain the following puzzling behaviour? I bought a USB keypad for some computer phobic people to use. Its a wonderful little thing, but it has one potentially confusing thing: a 000 key, right in the middle at the bottom. This records 000 in either a terminal or in an application. They have no use for 000. OK, lets just disable it. First thing was to run xev and find out what the keycode is. It is 90. Great, now lets find out what 0 is, and remap. Guess what, 0 is 90 as well! So, how on earth, if they are sending the same keycode, does one send 000 and the other just 0? And how do I map it so that they both send the same thing? The results from xev, both depression and release, seem to be absolutely identical for both keys, to the letter. Sure someone will understand what is happening, but it baffles me. Peter

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Minority Interests
by Ian bell 06 Feb '07

06 Feb '07

While we are on the subject of minority interests (Ipswich LUG et al) are there any fellow Tcl/Tk coders out there? Ian

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ALUG Yulemas dinner 2005^W2006^Wlate
by sfr 06 Feb '07

06 Feb '07

And finally, two years after the last (late) dinner, we have a table for 18 at the Reindeer. And a menu... Homemade Chicken Liver and Brandy Pate served with toast and Cranberry and Red Onion Chutney £3.95 Creamy Stilton Mushrooms served with toasted Bread £3.95 Warm Goats Cheese Salad Rocket, Baby Spinach, Cherry Tomatoes and warm Goats Cheese, drizzled with a Balsamic Dressing £4.50 Homemade Cauliflower Soup served with French Bread £3.75 ******** 8oz Sirloin Steak Served with Tomatoes, Mushrooms and Chunky Chips £9.95 Wild Mushroom Risotto Topped with fresh Parmesan Shavings £7.95 Pan Fried Chicken Fillet, Stuffed with Pate and wrapped in Smoked Bacon Served with roasted New Potatoes and a selection of Vegetables £7.50 Cod and Prawn Mornay Presented with Roasted New Potatoes and a selection of Vegetables £7.50 Homemade Venison Pie Topped with a Puff Pastry Lid and served with creamy Mash and a selection of Vegetables £7.95 A Rack of Baby Back Ribs coated in a Smoky Barbecue Sauce Served with Coleslaw, Chunky Chips and Onion Rings £9.95 Venison Liver and Bacon With a rich Red Wine Gravy, Mash and a selection of Vegetables £7.95 ******** Toffee and Pecan Cheesecake, served with a Fruit Coulis and fresh Cream £3.95 Vanilla Crème Brule, served with Amaretto Biscuits £3.95 Homemade Strawberry Trifles, finished with fresh Cream £4.25 Continental Cheese Platter, served with Biscuits and Grapes £4.25 -- sfr

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Ipswich LUG
by samwise 05 Feb '07

05 Feb '07

Hi, With 2007 now upon us - a new year, new start etc., I've been thinking about starting up an Ipswich Linux User Group. I found ALUG in my web research, and attempted to email Tony Dietrich who is listed as a contact for Ipswich, but the email bounced. Soo ... does anyone have thoughts they'd like to share? I'm particularly interested in what the benefits are of piggy-backing on the ALUG, in terms of mailing list and website hosting are ... I've had an initial planning meet-up with some of the people I hope to get involved, and the general consensus was that we may well prefer to take advantage of our own site/mailing list, like a number of the other Anglian LUGs. Anyone I should get in contact with to chat about this? Peter.

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Removing unwanted files
by Barry Chater 05 Feb '07

05 Feb '07

Hi I have got a problem that i cannot seem to solve. i copied a folder to the root directory using the terminal in gnome. I then could not get the file to extract using the gzip_d pavcl_linux.tgz command only to get the file or directory not found. so i got fed up and decided to remove the file pavcl_linux.tgz using the rm pavcl_linux.tgz command only to get the same reply.tried all these with sudo in front, no success. also typed the i command to get to root access but still no success. then i thought i would use the file browser to delete the file but it tells me that i do not have permission to move or copy the file. this is really spoilling my enjoyment with linux as i cannot seem to be able to copy or remove files with the terminal even though i copy the text exactly from the documentation, and ubuntu book. what am i doing wrong. here is some of what i am doing barry2006@barry2006-laptop:~$ sudo rm pavcl_linux.tgz Password: rm: cannot remove `pavcl_linux.tgz': No such file or directory barry2006@barry2006-laptop:~$ and this is the file i am trying to remove barry/pavcl_linux.tgz barry

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[ALUG] [ALUG Announce] 2nd Thursday Norwich Meet + Meal : Reindeer, Dereham Road
by Jonathan McDowell 05 Feb '07

05 Feb '07

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- The monthly "Second Thursday" ALUG Norwich Pub Meet is this Thursday, 8th February. In addition we will also be having a somewhat belated Christmas meal - if you want to come to this and have not registered interest please email Eli <sunflowerinrain(a)gmail.com>. It's at the Reindeer pub on the Dereham Road, just opposite the City Gate. People who are eating will be turning up from about 6:30pm, planning to eat at about 7pm. If you're not planning to eat then you can either turn up at this time and and watch the rest of us eat, or turn up later - we'll be there until closing. Topics for discussion will no doubt be as varied as ever. The Reindeer has a reasonable selection of beer as well as decent coffee (with biscuits, if you're lucky). Directions to the Reindeer can be found at: http://www.alug.org.uk/venues/reindeer.html Pictures of some of the regulars, and irregulars, and, well, just some pictures of people that might or might not turn up are available from: http://www.earth.li/~noodles/Photos/2006-02-ALUG/ http://the.earth.li/~noodles/stilvoid-alug/mp20050811/ http://www.earth.li/~noodles/Photos/2005-01-ALUG-Xmas/ http://www.earth.li/~noodles/Photos/2004-08-ALUG/ Which should hopefully aid those of you wondering who to look out for. J. -- Another bad idea: Vorpal Boomerang of Sharpness. This .sig brought to you by the letter W and the number 9 Product of the Republic of HuggieTag ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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Re: [ALUG] Removing unwanted files
by Barry Chater 05 Feb '07

05 Feb '07

On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 08:43 +0000, Jenny Hopkins wrote: > On 04/02/07, Barry Chater <ourpost(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > > > barry2006@barry2006-laptop:~$ sudo rm pavcl_linux.tgz > > Password: > > rm: cannot remove `pavcl_linux.tgz': No such file or directory > > barry2006@barry2006-laptop:~$ > > > > sorry dropped a boo boo should have been barry2006@barry2006-laptop:~$ ls-l bash: ls-l: command not found barry2006@barry2006-laptop:~$ 'ls-l' bash: ls-l: command not found barry2006@barry2006-laptop:~$ ls -l total 64 drwxr-xr-x 2 barry2006 barry2006 4096 2007-01-28 19:11 Barry's Favourites drwxr-xr-x 2 barry2006 barry2006 4096 2007-02-04 18:17 Desktop lrwxrwxrwx 1 barry2006 barry2006 26 2006-12-13 17:05 Examples -> /usr/share/example-content drwxr-xr-x 6 barry2006 barry2006 4096 2007-01-28 19:26 mp3 -rw-r--r-- 1 barry2006 barry2006 11500 2007-02-04 16:35 PandaAntivirus drwxr-xr-x 2 barry2006 barry2006 4096 2007-02-04 16:35 PandaAntivirus_files -rw-r--r-- 1 barry2006 barry2006 14154 2007-01-28 21:01 pdf doc.odt drwxr-xr-x 3 barry2006 barry2006 4096 2006-12-18 18:05 Photos drwxr-xr-x 3 barry2006 barry2006 4096 2007-01-17 14:53 Unknown Artist drwxr-xr-x 3 barry2006 barry2006 4096 2007-01-17 18:39 various Artist drwxr-xr-x 3 barry2006 barry2006 4096 2007-01-17 19:09 Various Artist drwxr-xr-x 3 barry2006 barry2006 4096 2007-01-29 20:51 Various mp3 barry2006@barry2006-laptop:~$ Barry

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Re: [ALUG] Removing unwanted files
by Barry Chater 05 Feb '07

05 Feb '07

On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 08:43 +0000, Jenny Hopkins wrote: > On 04/02/07, Barry Chater <ourpost(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > > > barry2006@barry2006-laptop:~$ sudo rm pavcl_linux.tgz > > Password: > > rm: cannot remove `pavcl_linux.tgz': No such file or directory > > barry2006@barry2006-laptop:~$ > > > > and this is the file i am trying to remove > > > > barry/pavcl_linux.tgz > > > > What does it show if you do 'ls -l' from your command prompt in barry? > > Jen barry2006@barry2006-laptop:~$ ls-l bash: ls-l: command not found barry2006@barry2006-laptop:~$ 'ls-l' bash: ls-l: command not found barry2006@barry2006-laptop:~$ thats what happens been given tip to allow removal of file in nautilus gksudo nautilus this worked file deleted but cannot understand why nothing worked in terminal thanks barry

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Am I wierd or are CMS systems wierd?
by cl＠isbd.net 03 Feb '07

03 Feb '07

I'm beginning to think that my mind works in a different way to everyone else's! I've been trying to find a CMS that suits me and have tried several so far including the (apparently) most popular two Drupal and Joomla. Now it would seem to me that one of the most fundamental requirements of a CMS is a way to see the structure of your web site, they are surely aimed at the situation where you have a web site comprising more than two or three pages. But, at least as far as I can see, neither Drupal nor Joomla offers any sort of attempt at showing a tree view or a map of the web site you're creating. I'm currently playing with Drupal and can't really see how to create a simple home page with some 'subsidiary' pages. OK, I have wonderful ways of adding all sorts of different content but I can't see any simple way to manage the site as a whole. Aaaarrrrgggghhhh!!!! :-) -- Chris Green (chris(a)halon.org.uk)

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Re: [ALUG] Ipswich LUG
by John Seago 03 Feb '07

03 Feb '07

On Saturday 03 February 2007 12:00, Wayne Stallwood <ALUGlist(a)digimatic.co.uk>wrote: > I feel that the main list could do with being busier, I can't see the > extra traffic from Ipswich members being anything other than a good > thing. > > I mean perhaps later if the traffic got so high that it was impossible > to follow a particular discussion thread then it could be revisited and > a split considered. As I am anticipating moving to Scotland with my family, I have taken up membership of a variety of Scottish LUG's. At first I thought I had made a cock-up of subscribing, as I didn't get any digests from three of them for January. I made enquiries, the lack of Digests was due to the lack of posts, one list having had three including my introduction since Christmas! So I'd go for the one list, if a member who may be moving has any influence! -- John Seago GNU/Linux Registered User No. #219566 http://counter.li.org/ () ascii ribbon campaign - against html mail /\ - against microsoft attachments

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RE: [ALUG] Avast anti virus software
by samwise 02 Feb '07

02 Feb '07

> Hi > Thanks Richard tried all of your suggestions, no success so filed in > waste bin.I assume file must be corrupt in some way. Can anybody > recommend a virus checker that works with Ubuntu, Looked at AVG but no > Ubuntu version. > Barry How fortuitous that I just joined after this question. I recently put in some effort to get the open-source KlamAV up and running from packages under Kubuntu. I detailed the procedure at the FAQ here: http://klamav.sourceforge.net/klamavwiki/index.php/FAQ#How_do_I_install_fro… Check the other FAQs for how to configure an email client for use with it. I have to say, that I have noticed some instability with it .. but, apart from the occasional crash, it generally works as expected. Hope that helps, Peter.

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Avast anti virus software
by Chris & Barry Chater 02 Feb '07

02 Feb '07

Hi First of all i would like to thank all of you that helped with my previous problem of how to connect to the web on my 5 year old Packard bell laptop, Mark kindly sent me a Pcmcia, realport type ethernet card and i am now on the net and having fun with linux. I found the linux emporium very helpful if you wanted advice on wireless cards etc,and they sell them. Now here is my latest problem !!! ( trying not to be a pain) I am using ubuntu 6.10 linux and downloaded the i386. deb version of avast antivirus, double clicked file to install, the package installer ran and then stated installing package. It then told me that the package was already installed and gave me the chance to reinstall.When i checked it was not on system, even used file search so i know its not there. Have i tried to install the wrong version? It has done this before but also has successfully installed other packages with no problem. Could be a case of a newbie not doing the correct thing. I know some of you will say that there is no need for virus software on linux, but just experimenting, really need to scan emails. Thanks again Barry

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