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your help on antivirus software and file removal
by Barry Chater 08 Feb '07

08 Feb '07

Hi Just a quick thank you to all that helped me with my problems with removing files and installing Avast antivirus software. Thanks Richard for your detailed help on directories this helped me install avast antivirus and get it running.Not bad for a newbie. A big thank you to all of you even if i have not mentioned your names i am truly grateful. my next things to sort out are to get movie player to play DVDs, downloaded several plug ins but up till now no success. still plenty of time to play with it though. also can get sound juicer to convert to MP3 but it will not play back, must be wrong plug in,rhythm box plays other Mp3 file OK Barry

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Keypad codes and xev
by Peter Alcibiades 07 Feb '07

07 Feb '07

Can anyone explain the following puzzling behaviour? I bought a USB keypad for some computer phobic people to use. Its a wonderful little thing, but it has one potentially confusing thing: a 000 key, right in the middle at the bottom. This records 000 in either a terminal or in an application. They have no use for 000. OK, lets just disable it. First thing was to run xev and find out what the keycode is. It is 90. Great, now lets find out what 0 is, and remap. Guess what, 0 is 90 as well! So, how on earth, if they are sending the same keycode, does one send 000 and the other just 0? And how do I map it so that they both send the same thing? The results from xev, both depression and release, seem to be absolutely identical for both keys, to the letter. Sure someone will understand what is happening, but it baffles me. Peter

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Minority Interests
by Ian bell 06 Feb '07

06 Feb '07

While we are on the subject of minority interests (Ipswich LUG et al) are there any fellow Tcl/Tk coders out there? Ian

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ALUG Yulemas dinner 2005^W2006^Wlate
by sfr 06 Feb '07

06 Feb '07

And finally, two years after the last (late) dinner, we have a table for 18 at the Reindeer. And a menu... Homemade Chicken Liver and Brandy Pate served with toast and Cranberry and Red Onion Chutney £3.95 Creamy Stilton Mushrooms served with toasted Bread £3.95 Warm Goats Cheese Salad Rocket, Baby Spinach, Cherry Tomatoes and warm Goats Cheese, drizzled with a Balsamic Dressing £4.50 Homemade Cauliflower Soup served with French Bread £3.75 ******** 8oz Sirloin Steak Served with Tomatoes, Mushrooms and Chunky Chips £9.95 Wild Mushroom Risotto Topped with fresh Parmesan Shavings £7.95 Pan Fried Chicken Fillet, Stuffed with Pate and wrapped in Smoked Bacon Served with roasted New Potatoes and a selection of Vegetables £7.50 Cod and Prawn Mornay Presented with Roasted New Potatoes and a selection of Vegetables £7.50 Homemade Venison Pie Topped with a Puff Pastry Lid and served with creamy Mash and a selection of Vegetables £7.95 A Rack of Baby Back Ribs coated in a Smoky Barbecue Sauce Served with Coleslaw, Chunky Chips and Onion Rings £9.95 Venison Liver and Bacon With a rich Red Wine Gravy, Mash and a selection of Vegetables £7.95 ******** Toffee and Pecan Cheesecake, served with a Fruit Coulis and fresh Cream £3.95 Vanilla Crème Brule, served with Amaretto Biscuits £3.95 Homemade Strawberry Trifles, finished with fresh Cream £4.25 Continental Cheese Platter, served with Biscuits and Grapes £4.25 -- sfr

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Ipswich LUG
by samwise 05 Feb '07

05 Feb '07

Hi, With 2007 now upon us - a new year, new start etc., I've been thinking about starting up an Ipswich Linux User Group. I found ALUG in my web research, and attempted to email Tony Dietrich who is listed as a contact for Ipswich, but the email bounced. Soo ... does anyone have thoughts they'd like to share? I'm particularly interested in what the benefits are of piggy-backing on the ALUG, in terms of mailing list and website hosting are ... I've had an initial planning meet-up with some of the people I hope to get involved, and the general consensus was that we may well prefer to take advantage of our own site/mailing list, like a number of the other Anglian LUGs. Anyone I should get in contact with to chat about this? Peter.

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Removing unwanted files
by Barry Chater 05 Feb '07

05 Feb '07

Hi I have got a problem that i cannot seem to solve. i copied a folder to the root directory using the terminal in gnome. I then could not get the file to extract using the gzip_d pavcl_linux.tgz command only to get the file or directory not found. so i got fed up and decided to remove the file pavcl_linux.tgz using the rm pavcl_linux.tgz command only to get the same reply.tried all these with sudo in front, no success. also typed the i command to get to root access but still no success. then i thought i would use the file browser to delete the file but it tells me that i do not have permission to move or copy the file. this is really spoilling my enjoyment with linux as i cannot seem to be able to copy or remove files with the terminal even though i copy the text exactly from the documentation, and ubuntu book. what am i doing wrong. here is some of what i am doing barry2006@barry2006-laptop:~$ sudo rm pavcl_linux.tgz Password: rm: cannot remove `pavcl_linux.tgz': No such file or directory barry2006@barry2006-laptop:~$ and this is the file i am trying to remove barry/pavcl_linux.tgz barry

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[ALUG] [ALUG Announce] 2nd Thursday Norwich Meet + Meal : Reindeer, Dereham Road
by Jonathan McDowell 05 Feb '07

05 Feb '07

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- The monthly "Second Thursday" ALUG Norwich Pub Meet is this Thursday, 8th February. In addition we will also be having a somewhat belated Christmas meal - if you want to come to this and have not registered interest please email Eli <sunflowerinrain(a)gmail.com>. It's at the Reindeer pub on the Dereham Road, just opposite the City Gate. People who are eating will be turning up from about 6:30pm, planning to eat at about 7pm. If you're not planning to eat then you can either turn up at this time and and watch the rest of us eat, or turn up later - we'll be there until closing. Topics for discussion will no doubt be as varied as ever. The Reindeer has a reasonable selection of beer as well as decent coffee (with biscuits, if you're lucky). Directions to the Reindeer can be found at: http://www.alug.org.uk/venues/reindeer.html Pictures of some of the regulars, and irregulars, and, well, just some pictures of people that might or might not turn up are available from: http://www.earth.li/~noodles/Photos/2006-02-ALUG/ http://the.earth.li/~noodles/stilvoid-alug/mp20050811/ http://www.earth.li/~noodles/Photos/2005-01-ALUG-Xmas/ http://www.earth.li/~noodles/Photos/2004-08-ALUG/ Which should hopefully aid those of you wondering who to look out for. J. -- Another bad idea: Vorpal Boomerang of Sharpness. This .sig brought to you by the letter W and the number 9 Product of the Republic of HuggieTag ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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Re: [ALUG] Removing unwanted files
by Barry Chater 05 Feb '07

05 Feb '07

On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 08:43 +0000, Jenny Hopkins wrote: > On 04/02/07, Barry Chater <ourpost(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > > > barry2006@barry2006-laptop:~$ sudo rm pavcl_linux.tgz > > Password: > > rm: cannot remove `pavcl_linux.tgz': No such file or directory > > barry2006@barry2006-laptop:~$ > > > > sorry dropped a boo boo should have been barry2006@barry2006-laptop:~$ ls-l bash: ls-l: command not found barry2006@barry2006-laptop:~$ 'ls-l' bash: ls-l: command not found barry2006@barry2006-laptop:~$ ls -l total 64 drwxr-xr-x 2 barry2006 barry2006 4096 2007-01-28 19:11 Barry's Favourites drwxr-xr-x 2 barry2006 barry2006 4096 2007-02-04 18:17 Desktop lrwxrwxrwx 1 barry2006 barry2006 26 2006-12-13 17:05 Examples -> /usr/share/example-content drwxr-xr-x 6 barry2006 barry2006 4096 2007-01-28 19:26 mp3 -rw-r--r-- 1 barry2006 barry2006 11500 2007-02-04 16:35 PandaAntivirus drwxr-xr-x 2 barry2006 barry2006 4096 2007-02-04 16:35 PandaAntivirus_files -rw-r--r-- 1 barry2006 barry2006 14154 2007-01-28 21:01 pdf doc.odt drwxr-xr-x 3 barry2006 barry2006 4096 2006-12-18 18:05 Photos drwxr-xr-x 3 barry2006 barry2006 4096 2007-01-17 14:53 Unknown Artist drwxr-xr-x 3 barry2006 barry2006 4096 2007-01-17 18:39 various Artist drwxr-xr-x 3 barry2006 barry2006 4096 2007-01-17 19:09 Various Artist drwxr-xr-x 3 barry2006 barry2006 4096 2007-01-29 20:51 Various mp3 barry2006@barry2006-laptop:~$ Barry

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Re: [ALUG] Removing unwanted files
by Barry Chater 05 Feb '07

05 Feb '07

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Am I wierd or are CMS systems wierd?
by cl＠isbd.net 03 Feb '07

03 Feb '07

I'm beginning to think that my mind works in a different way to everyone else's! I've been trying to find a CMS that suits me and have tried several so far including the (apparently) most popular two Drupal and Joomla. Now it would seem to me that one of the most fundamental requirements of a CMS is a way to see the structure of your web site, they are surely aimed at the situation where you have a web site comprising more than two or three pages. But, at least as far as I can see, neither Drupal nor Joomla offers any sort of attempt at showing a tree view or a map of the web site you're creating. I'm currently playing with Drupal and can't really see how to create a simple home page with some 'subsidiary' pages. OK, I have wonderful ways of adding all sorts of different content but I can't see any simple way to manage the site as a whole. Aaaarrrrgggghhhh!!!! :-) -- Chris Green (chris(a)halon.org.uk)

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Re: [ALUG] Ipswich LUG
by John Seago 03 Feb '07

03 Feb '07

On Saturday 03 February 2007 12:00, Wayne Stallwood <ALUGlist(a)digimatic.co.uk>wrote: > I feel that the main list could do with being busier, I can't see the > extra traffic from Ipswich members being anything other than a good > thing. > > I mean perhaps later if the traffic got so high that it was impossible > to follow a particular discussion thread then it could be revisited and > a split considered. As I am anticipating moving to Scotland with my family, I have taken up membership of a variety of Scottish LUG's. At first I thought I had made a cock-up of subscribing, as I didn't get any digests from three of them for January. I made enquiries, the lack of Digests was due to the lack of posts, one list having had three including my introduction since Christmas! So I'd go for the one list, if a member who may be moving has any influence! -- John Seago GNU/Linux Registered User No. #219566 http://counter.li.org/ () ascii ribbon campaign - against html mail /\ - against microsoft attachments

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RE: [ALUG] Avast anti virus software
by samwise 02 Feb '07

02 Feb '07

> Hi > Thanks Richard tried all of your suggestions, no success so filed in > waste bin.I assume file must be corrupt in some way. Can anybody > recommend a virus checker that works with Ubuntu, Looked at AVG but no > Ubuntu version. > Barry How fortuitous that I just joined after this question. I recently put in some effort to get the open-source KlamAV up and running from packages under Kubuntu. I detailed the procedure at the FAQ here: http://klamav.sourceforge.net/klamavwiki/index.php/FAQ#How_do_I_install_fro… Check the other FAQs for how to configure an email client for use with it. I have to say, that I have noticed some instability with it .. but, apart from the occasional crash, it generally works as expected. Hope that helps, Peter.

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Avast anti virus software
by Chris & Barry Chater 02 Feb '07

02 Feb '07

Hi First of all i would like to thank all of you that helped with my previous problem of how to connect to the web on my 5 year old Packard bell laptop, Mark kindly sent me a Pcmcia, realport type ethernet card and i am now on the net and having fun with linux. I found the linux emporium very helpful if you wanted advice on wireless cards etc,and they sell them. Now here is my latest problem !!! ( trying not to be a pain) I am using ubuntu 6.10 linux and downloaded the i386. deb version of avast antivirus, double clicked file to install, the package installer ran and then stated installing package. It then told me that the package was already installed and gave me the chance to reinstall.When i checked it was not on system, even used file search so i know its not there. Have i tried to install the wrong version? It has done this before but also has successfully installed other packages with no problem. Could be a case of a newbie not doing the correct thing. I know some of you will say that there is no need for virus software on linux, but just experimenting, really need to scan emails. Thanks again Barry

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Re: [ALUG] Handover requests: ICON
by MJ Ray 31 Jan '07

31 Jan '07

Just for the record: ICON contacts are now Peter Berry and Wayne Stallwood. I'll post the paperwork today. Thanks to both of them for stepping into the breach, and to Dave Noble for a third offer of help. Thanks, -- MJ Ray - see/vidu http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html Somerset, England. Work/Laborejo: http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ IRC/Jabber/SIP: on request/peteble.

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Apache 2.2 mod_authn_pam
by Chris Glover 30 Jan '07

30 Jan '07

Hi, After having to upgrade to Apache 2.2 to allow download of > 2GB sized files, I've found that mod_auth_pam doesn't work with this version. It's replacement mod_authn_pam is available from sourceforge cvsweb, however the cvsweb site seems to be broken at the moment. Does anybody have a copy of this that they could send or put somewhere for me? Many Thanks Chris -- Chris ---------------------------------- E Mail: chris(a)glovercc.plus.com SIP: 84411389(a)voiptalk.org IAXTEL: 17003366726

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Re: [ALUG] Handover requests: announce, ICON, www
by MJ Ray 29 Jan '07

29 Jan '07

announce has been handed over to BJ and Jonathan McDowell. Thanks both! ICON - still need two people to act as ALUG contact people for listing on the Norfolk CC database. Please can some people email me? You don't need to do anything except tell people about ALUG if they call you. I can set up a redirecting telephone number if you want. www - please can a webmaster email me or make the changes to the site editor? Thanks, -- MJ Ray - see/vidu http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html Somerset, England. Work/Laborejo: http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ IRC/Jabber/SIP: on request/peteble.

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Content Management Systems - or not!
by cl＠isbd.net 28 Jan '07

28 Jan '07

Well I'm still chasing round in ever decreasing circles looking for some sort of Content Management System for creating a web site for my wife's business. Thus I want a CMS (or, it seems increasingly likely, something else) with the following sorts of functions and abilities:- Easy entry of text *and* formatting such as headings, tables, lists, etc., preferably WYSIWYG or nearly so. This needs to be accessible to a non-techie but computer aware user. Consistent professional look for the whole site, it would be nice if a lot of templates/styles were available but just a few nice ready-made ones which are easy to tune (this can be a bit more 'techie') would be OK. Simple 'ready made' menu structure and navigation. What we *don't* need is the ability to have forums, news feeds, blogs and all that sort of paraphernalia, they might be nice to add on at some time but are unnecessary at the moment. Installation doesn't have to be particularly easy (I've already installed Drupal, CMSMadeSimple, Exponent and TWiki!) and I'm quite prepared to put some 'techie' input into it but the content creation *must* be straightforward and more than just text. >From what I have seen so far playing with Drupal and Exponent the current CMS systems are really of little use for what we want to do. They make it easy to add different sorts of content and also make it easy (some of them) to manage the structure of a web site but they help very little in making it easy to add the actual content. We don't even really need a web based system as there will only be two of us involved in creating the site, so although a wiki-like system might be somewhat more like what we're after the whole co-operative input thing would be lost on us. So, has anyone any comments or ideas? I suspect that I may need to look for something other than 'Content Management' but I wish I knew what it was! -- Chris Green (chris(a)halon.org.uk)

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MX/Zone/DNS question
by cl＠isbd.net 27 Jan '07

27 Jan '07

I have a domain isbd.net which is hosted for me at BSNet where I have access to the zone file. I have added a CNAME record home[.isbd.net] which points at my home system (which has a static IP with a very long name). This works perfectly for me so far, I can access Web pages on the home machine's apache server at home.isbd.net and any port I open up is accessible as home.isbd.net. I have Postfix on my home system (for sending mail). If I want it to receive mail as well what do I need to do to the zone file[s]? At BSNet (where isbd.net has its zone file) will the CNAME entry I already have mean that mail for xxx(a)home.isbd.net will get sent on or do the MX records for isbd.net catch home.isbd.net mail as well? If home.isbd.net mail *is* sent on to my home machine do I need to do anything to the zone file there for it to accept the mail or will having Postfix listening on port 25 be all that's needed? (I suspect that *strictly* I should have a zone file with MX records on my home machine but that it may well work without) -- Chris Green (chris(a)halon.org.uk)

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Handover requests: announce, ICON, www
by MJ Ray 26 Jan '07

26 Jan '07

As you may know, I left a while ago, but I still seem to have a few bits of ALUG in my hands. Who wants these? Email me directly, please. announce mailing list - I think someone offered to take this over a while ago, but I don't know whether that offer is still good. Workload is checking a Mailman admindb web page after 8am each day. Mostly spam. So, who wants it? ICON - ALUG's listing on the Norfolk County Council index of community groups needs two new contact people. I thought we'd added someone else in the past, but it's not listed. Workload is answering any enquiries. Please can two people email me: Name, address, telephone (day/eve/fax), email and whether to hide your details from the web. Current entry may be viewed at http://norlink.norfolk.gov.uk/cgi-bin/vps2-civ.web.sh?enqtype=SECOND&enqpar… www - I thought I handed this over to David Reynolds and Sionide (maybe I forget), but the site is still emailing me patches. Mostly spam now. Can someone please update the web site and change the editor or at least the address it sends to? If you want to keep the editor, it needs updating to discourage spamming. If you want a hand with that, let me know and I'll add it to my to-do list. If these aren't taken over, I'll ask for them to be deleted. Thanks in advance for any help for ALUG! -- MJ Ray - see/vidu http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html Somerset, England. Work/Laborejo: http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ IRC/Jabber/SIP: on request/peteble.

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Re: OT: Content Management Recommendations please
by cl＠isbd.net 26 Jan '07

26 Jan '07

On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 02:06:38PM +0000, cl(a)isbd.net wrote: > Joomla > Drupal > MySource Classic > WebGUI > TikiWiki > > Does anyone here have any experience of any of these and/or are there any > good comparison/review sites? (I've found http://www.opensourcecms.com/ > which is useful). > Well I think I've found what I need, none of the above but:- http://www.exponentcms.org/ It's fairly new but seems to be going somewhere. It was certainly as easy as falling over to install it and I found it trivially easy to get started and actually produce some pages etc. -- Chris Green (chris(a)halon.org.uk)

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Simple CMS and/or WYSIWYG HTML editor - any suggestions?
by cl＠isbd.net 25 Jan '07

25 Jan '07

What simple CMS and/or HTML editors would people recommend for a non-techie user (my wife)? She's most certainly not computer hostile but wants a simple way to create and maintain a small business web site. There's no requirement for selling or an associated database, it will just be a site comprising a few tens of pages outlining what she does with appropriate internal and external links. It doesn't have to have very sophisticated (or any) FTP management either as I can make the web site appear as a local file system if necessary. It would be nice if it made it easy to create sidebars, menus, etc. The ones I have looked at are things like:- nvu - OK, but seems to have gone to sleep as a project since version 1.0 bluefish - too techie seamonkey - Too simple, just edits an HTML page and that's about it. -- Chris Green (chris(a)halon.org.uk)

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Silly Hardware Qs
by ted.harding＠nessie.mcc.ac.uk 25 Jan '07

25 Jan '07

Hi Folks, OT Linux-wise, but a lot of you are wise, hardware-wise, as-it-were-wise ... 1. I have an old desktop, whose on/off is mechanical (mechanical link from power button to switch in PSU). This link is now dodgy, and I often have to press it on/off several times before the power finally kicks in. A possible solution, after running shutdown, is simply to switch off at the mains, leaving the power switch in the "on" state; and then, when starting up again, simply switch on at the mains. I.e. simply never switch the machine itself on or off. However, I'm a bit concerned that the surge from switching on at the mains might not be good for the machine if it goes straight through to the PSU, rather than the PSU's own switch allowing it in from an already live mains cable. Any comments? 2. If a TFT/LCD screen simply goes all white (every pixel bright white) when it's switched on, regardless of whether there's any input signel, does this indicate any particular type of internal problem which it might be worth probing for (by taking the back off and looking for, e.g., a loose chip/connection)? Best wishes to all from the Scrapyard in the Fen Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <ted.harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 24-Jan-07 Time: 11:04:06 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------

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ALUG Annual Nosh
by sfr 23 Jan '07

23 Jan '07

Twelve people confirmed, and three more possibly. The Reindeer has a different menu every week, so we can't get an exact one until Monday 5 February. Here's a sample menu for a rough idea. -- sfr ======================================== Reindeer Menu Homemade Cream of Vegetable Soup with Rustic Bread £3.75 Smoked Mackerel Pate with toasted Bread £3.95 Creamy Stilton Mushrooms with toasted Bread £3.95 Loaded Potato Skins filled with Cheese and Bacon, with a Sweet Chilli Sauce £3.95 ******** Venison Steak, with Tomatoes, Mushrooms and Chunky Chips £9.95 Homemade Quorn Lasagne with Garlic Bread and Salad £6.95 Pan fried Chicken Fillet, with a Smoked Cheese Sauce, Roasted New Potatoes and a selection of Vegetables £7.50 Homemade Sausage Casserole on a bed of creamy Mashed Potato £6.95 Grilled Plaice Fillets with a Dill and Butter Sauce with Roasted New Potatoes and a selection of Vegetables £7.50 A Whole Rack of Baby Back Ribs, coated in a Barbecue Sauce with spicy Potato Wedges, Coleslaw and Onion Rings £9.95 Gammon Steak with Pineapple, with Chips and Salad £7.95 ******** Desserts Banoffi Cheesecake served with fresh Cream £3.95 Vanilla Crème Brulle served with Amaretto Biscuits £3.95 Chocolate Sponge served with a warm Chocolate Sauce £3.95 Meringue Nests filled with Fresh Fruit and Chantilly Cream £4.25

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The 'nobody' user in HTML and CGI, how to best use it?
by cl＠isbd.net 19 Jan '07

19 Jan '07

I mostly understand why there is a user 'nobody' who owns all the HTML and CGI stuff in the /var/www hierarchy. However it's a bit of a pain maintaining the 'nobody' file ownership permissions there, how do other people manage this? At present I tend to do things as root and then 'chown -R nobody' which is a bit clumsy really. This is on a home system with me being the only direct user (and a few other samba file sharing users). I edit and move files around in /var/www directly as I'm really the only user most of the time and the occasional 'outside' user can just put up with anything I break for a while. The problem is that one has to be root to manipulate the files owned by nobody as one can't actually become nobody. Ooh, just tried and one *can* become nobody via root, I suppose that's one way to deal with it. So, is that what others do when doing things to files in the /var/www area, su to root and then to nobody? -- Chris Green (chris(a)halon.org.uk)

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nspluginwrapper
by Peter Alcibiades 18 Jan '07

18 Jan '07

Has anyone successfully used this to install Flash 9 on AMD64 Debian? If so how? Wishing I had just installed 32 bit in the first place but dreading what it will take to move to it... Peter

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