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RE: [ALUG] Re: Re: Anyone got an old fashioned external serial modem going spare?
by Keith Watson 14 Nov '05

14 Nov '05

> From: Chris Green Sent: 14 November 2005 10:04 > On Mon, Nov 14, 2005 at 09:32:50AM -0000, Keith Watson wrote: > > > From: Chris Green Sent: 14 November 2005 09:30 > > > On Mon, Nov 14, 2005 at 09:18:40AM -0000, Keith Watson wrote: > > > > Has anyone got an old 56k capable external modem (that's serial not > > > > usb) lying around they'd be willing to part with for a suitable > > > > transfer of funds? > > > > > > > She hasn't got an ISA slot free has she? I have a 'real' ISA slot > > > modem - i.e. not a WinModem. > > > > Really, what chipset is it? > > > > Any problems getting it to run under Linux? > > > I think my original purpose in getting it was to run under > Linux, I can send you some more details when I get home this > evening if you like (I'm at work, modem is at home). > > It's free to a good home, I have no ISA machines running any > more. I can stick it in the post to you if you want. > I'm not sure if she has any ISA slots on her m/b. Need to check, but thanks for the offer, I might take you up on that depending on what else turns up. Cheers, Keith ____________ A good explanation: never explain anything. - Zen Saying

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RE: [ALUG] Re: Anyone got an old fashioned external serial modem goingspare?
by Keith Watson 14 Nov '05

14 Nov '05

> From: Chris Green Sent: 14 November 2005 09:30 > > On Mon, Nov 14, 2005 at 09:18:40AM -0000, Keith Watson wrote: > > Has anyone got an old 56k capable external modem (that's serial not > > usb) lying around they'd be willing to part with for a suitable > > transfer of funds? > > > She hasn't got an ISA slot free has she? I have a 'real' ISA > slot modem - i.e. not a WinModem. Really, what chipset is it? Any problems getting it to run under Linux? Regards, Keith

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RE: [ALUG] Anyone got an old fashioned *thread hijack* *pcmcia* modemgoing spare?
by Keith Watson 14 Nov '05

14 Nov '05

> From: Adam Bower Sent: 14 November 2005 09:41 > On Mon, Nov 14, 2005 at 09:18:40AM -0000, Keith Watson wrote: > > (or alternatively, if you know how to make a Conexant MDC480 > modem work with Linux then let me know!) > Take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WinModemConexantHSF?highlight=%28Conexant%29 WinModemConexantHSF - Ubuntu Wiki and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Conexant?highlight=%28Conexant%29 Conexant - Ubuntu Wiki they might help. Regards, Keith ____________ Man always dies before he is fully born. - Erich Fromm

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Brett Parker 14 Nov '05

14 Nov '05

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. Historically, these used to be the only time a lot of us would be about, now the channel has some usual faces that are there most of the time (except at silly o'clock, when we might be sleeping, or on the second thursday of the month, where we might be drinking in the Reindeer), so don't feel limited to visit during this time, come visit us when ever you feel like it! The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include xchat, irssi and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://www.irssi.org/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Re: Re: installing Debian
by Robert Grant (DEV) 12 Nov '05

12 Nov '05

Here are some experiences/thoughts from an ordinary 'user' who just wants a laptop on which to use office and other applications rather than any kind of developer work 1. I'd like to support the positive things said about the Sarge installer. My first Linux try was with Woody and it took me months to get X working at all. Although I'd read up in advance and knew all my hardware specs I somehow chose a 2.2 idepci kernel which I think dogged subsequent efforts including my later effort at an online upgrade to Sarge. When I tried a fresh install with a Sarge CD all went far more smoothly and I had a nice looking desktop (KDE) with very little real effort. Certainly more quickly than when I put XP on the same laptop. 2. Aptitude is wonderful. dselect under Woody was really hard to get into. With aptitude installing and managing packages is extremely easy. This gave me the confidence to bypass Tasksel at install time and build up from a fairly bare-bones text only system. 3. As Brett said in this thread already "99% of the battle is knowing where to look" and I agree. Debian is not 'hard' in itself but the documentation available online seems particularly challenging for the non-initiated. The more I learn the more I like the intuitive and accessible way the Debian system itself is laid out: but the more puzzled I get that nobody seems to have produced an entry level guide which would make working it out less of a groping in the dark experience. 4. The rise of Ubuntu has me unsure of which way to leap. On the one hand I am tempted by the idea of more up to date software than I have in Sarge. On the other I want to keep building on what I have learned about Debian. Once my confidence improves my plan was to try the approach of selectively pulling in packages from the testing/unstable repositaries. In particular I'd like the more recent versions of OO.org and Okle. Maybe someone with my low level of technical knowledge and 'user' orientation would be safer going for Ubuntu though? 5. Thanks to all contributors to this thread which is a timely one for me as I've got a new, unformatted 60G HD in my thinkpad now after the last one died. I am on the waiting list for a UEA copy of XP, which I think I need to install first, so have a few days to choose between Sarge and (K)Ubuntu. BTW, just to make the purists cringe, my plan is to put on XP then shrink the NTFS partition down and add ext3 ones for / and /home plus swap using Partition Magic. Rob Rob Grant Tutor in Economics School of Development Studies University of East Anglia NR4 7TJ +44(0)1603592324 r.grant(a)uea.ac.uk

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Hard Drives
by Bob Dove 10 Nov '05

10 Nov '05

Hi Folks, Installation CDs and pre-installed O/S plus recovery disks. I have always installed from a full O/S disk. My daughter and several of the outlaws have bought systems with pre-installed O/S and recovery disks (Tiny and Acer). Initially, these boxes had Win95. Recovery on these machines was in fact a reformat and copying of a 'mirror' image and not a full version. I upgraded my sys to Win 98 and eventually 98SE (do you think I'd admit to upgrading the outlaws?) Currently, because Photoshop CS demanded it W2K (which is absolutely with no exceptions they flakiest O/S I've used - and I started with CP/M! Fond memory says W3.11 was the best. I now have two towers and two USB externals. The 'twin towers' each have two HDD. The reason for this is that initially a refusal to boot up and even acknowledge the presence of emergency repair disk in floppy drive or the installation CD in CD drive caused my local guru to pronounce the HDD dead. I bought and fitted new drive, reinstalled every thing and fitted (after setting jumpers) 'dead' drive as slave in the hopes of being able to recover data including a large number of scanned images. Lo and behold, the 'dead' drive was seen and all the data was there and could be accessed. So verily the dead drive was resurrected! The next time the 'C:' drive 'died' on me, it was another trip to PC World for another HDD and again installing and loading O/S. This time 'dead' drive went into one of those new fangled (at the time) external USB drive boxes where it remains. As I said - two boxes and now six HDDs later have lead me to believe that it is software (namely windoze) that is at fault, not the hardware! Possibly a viral infection could have caused it but who knows? Next failure will see a smaller drive installed as 'C:' as it will in fact only contain O/S and those programs that won't install anywhere else but C: Why smaller? It takes an age to scan for Virii or defrag big drives! Incidentally, the latest reformatting because windoze wouldn't boot resurrected a dormant Linux partition which the system labelled C: and windoze took itself off into a second partition it named F: I wonder how long before I have to repeat the exercise? Now come the question; with multiple hard drives installed, can Linux install and boot from a second hard drive D:? Having windoze and Linux in separate partitions on the same hard drive made me give up on Linux. Reading these mails - your comments re operating/installing Linux is absolutely frightening. A 'simple' installation CD that injects Linux onto a hard drive and which comes up with a desktop 'just like windoze' (or Mac O/S) is all 99% of PC owners want. We don't want to know about command lines - just icons on the desktop just like the original Digital Research GUI that all other O/S desktops have copied! Cheers, BD.

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Re: Hard Drives
by Robert Grant (DEV) 10 Nov '05

10 Nov '05

Just a thought provoked by Ten's question/aside >There really is nothing inherently bad or unusable about consoles. > >As an aside, there's *got* to be some way to remove the fear of the console >for the average user. Whether it's consoles in funky anti-aliased truetype >fonts with images/music/css theming/whatever in a gnome/kde app, or even >turing-type rubber-fork "find me the mp3s I saved in july last year" type >stuff, if we could just crack this heinous culture that's built up against >using fast, expressive, intuitive typed commands, then people would REALLY be >moving to linux. I use two stats programs, SPSS and STATA, which have GUI interfaces that have grown over the years and versions on top of command line origins. Both preserve full access to command line flexibility and to different extents encourage users to use that interface as they gain experience. The key enabling factor is that in both systems it is very easy to access the commands generated by using menus and dialogues. STATA is particularly good at this, reporting the the plain-text command equivalent with every set of results, whether generated via console or point-and-squirt. There is also an on-screen history of commands in a separate window along with another showing available variables. Items can be grabbed from either source to construct new console entries. This works the other way too, with a CLI command that shows you the GUI way of issuing. When I introduce a class to the package I can just give them the true-and-pure commands and they have the security of knowing how to get back to a GUI method too. Come to think of it there must be many other models of GUI/CLI integration like this in various applications. I'm sure others on this list will know dozens. But has it been done in an OS yet, or could a desktop environment just superimpose this behaviour? Could something provide the user with a console window that is, for example, filled in with the appropriate mnt/ls and so on commands when they stick a disk in? Rob Rob Grant Tutor in Economics School of Development Studies University of East Anglia NR4 7TJ +44(0)1603592324 r.grant(a)uea.ac.uk

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GDM not shutting down
by Peter 10 Nov '05

10 Nov '05

Sorry, in this question I got the details all wrong. What is not shutting down is dm, not gdm. It is however true that this shuts down fine with either xdm or kdm. And the other thing that is failing is nfs locking, not ntfs... Which is puzzling me a bit, not being terribly well informed, as I don't recall ever installing nfs. Or maybe Mandriva just does it? Sorry about that Peter

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Good Evening Everyone! New member here!
by rob page 10 Nov '05

10 Nov '05

Well, I moved down to Norwich about 2 months ago from York, where I'd been doing a Computer Science degree, and I've started using Linux about 6 years ago, about 3 years ago started using it as my main OS. Hmmm, now for why i'm interested in Linux. Well, because its better.... :-), and the politics... and I can actually do decent programming on it, and when something goes wrong with it, the answer is just a google away, because it supports my USB OHCI PCI card, and my tulip network card (which win 2k doesn't), because it has xfce4 and many other reasons.... As for me, the main programming languages I use are C++ and java, I currently maintain a latex editor called AmyEdit [1] , written using gtkmm in C++, (end shameless plug). I'm also the current KBounce International Champion! [2] That's me, Hello! [1] http://amyedit.sf.net [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KBounce#International_champion

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GDM not shutting down
by Peter 09 Nov '05

09 Nov '05

Hi, Can anyone suggest why GDM should not be able to be shut down when I logout and turn the machine off? XDM and KDM both do, just fine, but I prefer GDM but am a bit troubled by the failure. This is on Mandriva 2006, and its the logs that scroll by after you have closed down. The other thing that fails is something to do with NTFS locking, don't know if this is relevant. But it fails when using XDM and KDM also. Peter.

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Anyone got some old 500MB-2GB hard drives they no longer require?
by Ashley T. Howes, Ph.D. 08 Nov '05

08 Nov '05

I'm in the process of building a small Debian GNU/Linux based cluster using old machines. It's something I always been interested in doing. I've already got the boxes, some motherboard/cpus with Pentium chips on them, and the NICs. The only thing missing are the hard disks. Has anyone got one or more they no longer need? I've managed to build the cluster for free so far, and hope to finish it in the same manner. I'd prefer sizes between 500MB and 2GB. So, if you can help, please email me. Perhaps you could bring something along to the kit meeting at UEA on Sunday? -- Ashley T. Howes, Ph.D. http://www.ashleyhowes.com "All it takes is one bad day to reduce the sanest man alive to lunacy. That's how far the world is from where I am. Just one bad day." - The Joker in Alan Moore's The Killing Joke

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Re: Re: installing Debian
by Robert Grant (DEV) 07 Nov '05

07 Nov '05

Thanks Ted, Adam, Wayne and Tony for useful thoughts Ted, my blood ran cold when I read your warning about BIOS settings on the hd. Fortunately I remember going into BIOS since installing the new unformatted drive to make sure the CD was set as boot device- then running Partition Magic just to check the drive was functional as I want to leave feedback on ebay for the thing. I also booted Knoppix which is about all I can use with no hard drive at all, so thankfully the BIOS seems intact. Knoppix froze on me after about five minutes though, so maybe even this needs an hd to be present. I do seem to recall the XP installer mentioning a small area of disk as something like 'unused' or 'unformatted', only about 2-300 meg I think, when I installed it over the factory W98. Maybe this was where 98 had 'squirted' its recovery/hibernation info. I quite agree that this kind of behaviour, plus the absurdity of making recovery data available only on a device which will be dead if it is needed, is a pretty poor show. With a totally new hd any hidden diagnostic or system specific tools are lost now. I do plan one day to have a go with the "ThinkPad Configuration Tools for Linux" tpctl package that can give you such things as on-screen volume display, power management, trackpoint configuration etc. Details at http://tpctl.sourceforge.net/ if anyone is interested. Tony, though the windows labels for all your bits C:, F: etc. are not much use in linux for the reasons given, you should still be able to mount these as you please using device paths like /dev/hda1 etc. Apologies if this is blindingly obvious but I was pleased when I realised it! I had a FAT32 partition automounting rw as /exchange and an NTFS one as /xp where 'My Documents' was. The fact that NTFS write support in linux seems to be less than fully reliable is one reason why I didn't want to set up my XP partition with the Sarge d-i by the way, even if that option were offered. In fact I am thinking of putting 'My Documents' entirely on FAT32 when I reinstall so that everything is easily accessible from both OSs, unless there are compelling performance or reliability reasons not so to do. For example it would be nice to be able to access my mp3 library from both linux and XP. I reckon something like this will do hda1 8G NTFS XP C: or /bloat hda2 8G ext3 Sarge or Ubuntu / hda3 23G FAT32 'My Documents'E: or /xp hda4 20G ext3 /home hda5 1G swap (machine has 256M RAM) Best wishes, Rob Rob Grant Tutor in Economics School of Development Studies University of East Anglia NR4 7TJ +44(0)1603592324 r.grant(a)uea.ac.uk

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Re: installing Debian
by Peter 07 Nov '05

07 Nov '05

> installing Debian is like being greased, and wrestling with an eel. This is completely mad. I have installed Debian and derivatives of Debian many times (on a little Dell that I bought for £50, specifically for the purpose of playing with distributions, and on a couple of other boxes, one a 200mhz MMX, one a home assembled Shuttle). Debian Pure (now another name) installed over the net or from a Debian DVD with no problems. Debian Sarge, from a magazine cover DVD booted and installed with no problems. Mepis installed with no problems. Ubuntu installed with no problems (though using it, the old version I tried a year ago, was a different matter). Knoppix has an install option - it just went in and worked. I have had some problems installing things. I couldn't get Dragonfly to work at all. I had problems with one of the BSDs, or at least, problems figuring out how to get to a proper desktop. I've had temporary difficulties with Slackware, largely owing to the lack of a 'go back' option at various critical points. I had trouble with Mandrake 10.x on some machines. The first issue of elive wouldn't work properly. I never could get Woody to work. So, its not that I can do everything perfectly and easily, and I'm not at all expert in this stuff, but recent Debians are SIMPLY NOT A PROBLEM. Peter

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2nd Thursday Norwich Meet : Reindeer, Dereham Road
by Jonathan McDowell 07 Nov '05

07 Nov '05

The monthly "Second Thursday" ALUG Norwich Pub Meet is this Thursday, 10th November. It's at the Reindeer pub on the Dereham Road, just opposite the City Gate. We'll be there from 8pm-ish, though there may be a few people there earlier. Topics for discussion will no doubt be as varied as ever. The Reindeer has a reasonable selection of beer as well as decent coffee (with biscuits, if you're lucky). Directions to the Reindeer can be found at: http://www.alug.org.uk/venues/reindeer.html Pictures of some of the regulars, and irregulars, and, well, just some pictures of people that might or might not turn up are available from: http://www.earth.li/~noodles/Photos/2004-08-ALUG/ http://www.earth.li/~noodles/Photos/2005-01-ALUG-Xmas/ http://the.earth.li/~noodles/stilvoid-alug/mp20050811/ Which should hopefully aid those of you wondering who to look out for. We're /normally/ just to the left of the main entrance, though last time we ended up at the far end of the pub beside the pool table. J. -- 101 things you can't have too much of : 41 - Tea.

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Using mailsync with ssh
by Chris Green 07 Nov '05

07 Nov '05

Having looked into this I have come to the following conclusion. Mailsync only works 'with ssh' to a remote IMAP server, I'm pretty sure it can't access an ordinary mbox (or other) hierarchy on a remote machine by using ssh. I *think* the example in the examples documentation is just that, accessing a remote mh mailbox system which happens to have an IMAP server using the mh hierarchy. If anyone can point me to some documentation and/or help suggesting otherwise then I'd be very pleased to know about it. -- Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk) "Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence."

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Dual Head on Nvidia
by Wayne Stallwood 07 Nov '05

07 Nov '05

I am just about to order a second 17" TFT to match my existing one, I noticed where I was doing some DVD Authoring last week that I need more screen estate. I would like to stay with Nvidia cards if at all possible, partly because I need good hardware 3D on at least one screen and partly because I know where I can grab a really good dualhead Nvidia card really cheap. Not having done this before I would like to know how it all works before I commit to the extra screen. How for example do the virtual desktops interact with dual head, Do I used the desktop pager in the normal way and choose which display has which desktop ? How does the framebuffer work, does this only work on the first screen ? Has anyone used VMware on a dual head setup, what happens if you set a VM to fullscreen ? Does it go fullscreen on one of the monitors and do you have any choice about which screen that is ? When I was googling about I saw loads of references to xinerama and twinview and other sites that just said to add the second display to the xconfig file. What method should I use to get the behaviour(s) above ?

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Brett Parker 07 Nov '05

07 Nov '05

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Tiff images on a Sharp SL-C3100
by Barry Samuels 06 Nov '05

06 Nov '05

I have just bought an SL-C3100 and one of the things I'd like to use it for is viewing images, from my camera, in the field. The images are 12MB Tiff files and most of the Zaurus software can't cope with Tiff so I'd like to shrink and convert to Jpeg. I've put an Arm binary of ImageMagick 'convert' onto the Zaurus and have installed the libtiff package but if I try to use 'convert' I get a message 'Libtiff is not available'. Can anyone suggest what might cause this? -- Barry Samuels http://www.beenthere-donethat.org.uk The Unofficial Guide to Great Britain

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Re: MFD
by Ten 06 Nov '05

06 Nov '05

Hi there folks. I'm in the process of looking at budget MFDs (the all-in-one printer/scanner/tea-strainer deelies for anyone not familiar with the acronym) for myself and the better half and wondered whether anyone here had positive/negative experiences to share. "Compatibility" with your usual GNU/Linux suspects is a must in terms of both systems and utilities - are there serious gotchas anyone here knows about? Considerations are: 1. Low cost 2. Print/scan/copy at reasonable quality 3. PictBridge and/or Bluetooth for computerless use with digital cameras. Groovy gravy would be: 1. Bluetooth for use with phones etc., but I don't personally need computerless printing, so it's less of a consideration). 2. Ability to handle 35mm film (truly unnecessary) I'd appreciate ideas/gotchas. Cheers, -- Ten

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How to remove empty maildir mailboxes?
by Chris Green 06 Nov '05

06 Nov '05

This is (distantly) related to my previous question, they're both results of my migration from mbox to maildir. I'm doing that so I can rsync my mail folder hierarchy from the system where I actually read my mail to my home system without losing old mails. So, I want to write a utility that can run as a cron job and, maybe, on demand, that will saerch down my mail hierarchy for empty maildir mailboxes and delete them. This involves finding any directory that has empty cur, tmp, and new subdirectories and deleting it. I can see all sorts of horribly clumsy ways of doing it but not any really neat way. Any quick solutions anyone? Amazingly a Google search turned up nothing useful at all, surely there must be a need for a utility like this. -- Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk) "Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence."

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RE: [ALUG] Installing Debian
by Keith Watson 06 Nov '05

06 Nov '05

> From: Anthony Anson > > I've just had an attempt at installing Woody, but fell at, if > not the first hurdle, the next one. > I'd strongly advise installing a Ubuntu distro (latest is 5.10 Breezy Badger) if you want to try out Debian. I'm a dedicated Debianite and also a total convert to Ubuntu after setting up a dial-up PC for a non PC literate friend a couple of months back (Quote: "Wow this is as good as Windows!!"** :-> ) I'm sure someone on the list has some of the latest Ubuntu Live+Install CD packs (I've got some of the previous 5.04 Hoary Hedgehog packs). IMO the install is a dream. Regards, Keith ____________ Though the forest is dense, yet water flows through it freely. - Zen Saying ** recent quote after another acquaintance was bemoaning getting assorted viruses and rogue diallers over the past year, "Oh!, I don't get those, I run Linux" (accompanied by a superior grin) [however I did enable their firewall]

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Installing Debian
by Peter 05 Nov '05

05 Nov '05

I would get Mepis. Assuming you don't mind KDE. Installation is very simple indeed, and after 45 minutes, there you have it, a working Debian based installation with most of what you'll need, and Synaptic for the rest. And you get to try it out from the CD first, to make sure you like it, before going to the trouble of installing. I did try Ubuntu, an earlier version, and didn't like it one bit. It may have improved, but the one I tried, last Christmas, was an utter dog. So at least if you try Ubuntu, make sure its the latest version. I also failed, a long time ago, to get Woody in, no longer recall exactly why, but the latest version is pretty straightforward. Though not as simple as Mepis. Peter

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Installing Debian
by Anthony Anson 05 Nov '05

05 Nov '05

I've just had an attempt at installing Woody, but fell at, if not the first hurdle, the next one. With 640 MB of memory I didn't think a swap partition was necessary so I skipped that. (Anyone disagree?) Formatting the drive was not what you would call intuitive, though. I 'deleted' [1] all the existing partitions on hda, couldn't print the 'help' menu [2], found that using the command letters didn't do anything except return me to the formatting page, and I could find no way of implementing the changes I had made. I understand that the latest version is a lot more user-friendly. [1] altered the hda1 FAT32; hda2 FAT16; hda3 Fat16 to a single unformatted partition awaiting the command to format. [2] the line at the bottom which said 'print help' or something similar had a cursor at the end of it, but I couldn't find any way of moving it or highlighting the lot, or getting it to work. So I removed the CD and shut down. I have a feeling that this is going to be a long job... -- Tony http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

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RE: [ALUG] ACPI on ThinkPad
by Keith Watson 04 Nov '05

04 Nov '05

> From: Dan Hatton Sent: 04 November 2005 00:39 > > I'm trying to set up ACPI power management, but I can't get > my system to resume from suspend-to-RAM; does anyone have any > idea how to proceed, please? > > The details: the system is Fedora core 4, on an IBM ThinkPad, > with a home-compiled 2.6.14 kernel (but the result is much > the same with a Fedora stock 2.6.13 kernel.) > > After I suspend with a (bash) script (cobbled together from > bits of advice and scripts on the WWW,) run in an xterm, > whose functional part > is: > > rmmod uhci_hcd > rmmod ehci_hcd > echo `fgconsole` > /var/cache/acpi/vt > chvt 8 > echo -n "auto_disable" > /proc/acpi/ibm/video echo -n "mem" > > /sys/power/state echo -n "auto_enable" > /proc/acpi/ibm/video > chvt `cat /var/cache/acpi/vt` rm -f /var/cache/acpi/vt > modprobe uhci_hcd modprobe ehci_hcd > > then resume by pressing the power button, the system comes > back, and shows me my xsession, but then hangs when trying to > run any commands. > > When I run the script from the console, then resume by > pressing the power button, the system dies (after a long-ish > pause) with various error messages, in which there are > references to "spinlock recursion," "spinlock lockup," and > repeatedly to "ATA Timeout." > Dan, something of an oblique answer I'm afraid but it might point you in the direction of some useful resources. I've recently been setting up my work HP nx9105 as a dual boot WinXP / Ubuntu system. My main problem was USB not working. This turned out to be ACPI related because of a BIOS bug. (Fix was to turn off ACPI and all my USB devices snapped into use :o) ) My point is that the Ubuntu Wiki and forums have a lot of discussion related to laptops and all things ACPI which may provide some ideas about ways you can figure out a solution. Regards, Keith ____________ COMMERCE, n. - A kind of transaction in which A plunders from B the goods of C, and for compensation B picks the pocket of D of money belonging to E. - Ambrose Bierce - The Devil's Dictionary

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ACPI on ThinkPad
by Dan Hatton 04 Nov '05

04 Nov '05

I'm trying to set up ACPI power management, but I can't get my system to resume from suspend-to-RAM; does anyone have any idea how to proceed, please? The details: the system is Fedora core 4, on an IBM ThinkPad, with a home-compiled 2.6.14 kernel (but the result is much the same with a Fedora stock 2.6.13 kernel.) After I suspend with a (bash) script (cobbled together from bits of advice and scripts on the WWW,) run in an xterm, whose functional part is: rmmod uhci_hcd rmmod ehci_hcd echo `fgconsole` > /var/cache/acpi/vt chvt 8 echo -n "auto_disable" > /proc/acpi/ibm/video echo -n "mem" > /sys/power/state echo -n "auto_enable" > /proc/acpi/ibm/video chvt `cat /var/cache/acpi/vt` rm -f /var/cache/acpi/vt modprobe uhci_hcd modprobe ehci_hcd then resume by pressing the power button, the system comes back, and shows me my xsession, but then hangs when trying to run any commands. When I run the script from the console, then resume by pressing the power button, the system dies (after a long-ish pause) with various error messages, in which there are references to "spinlock recursion," "spinlock lockup," and repeatedly to "ATA Timeout." -- Thanks, Dan Hatton <http://www.bib.hatton.btinternet.co.uk/dan/>

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