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autocheck email?
by Peter Hunter 07 Apr '05

07 Apr '05

Hi all, I know I have asked this before, but I had to re-install Linux (SuSE 9.2) onto a new (old) computer. I'm now using a P3 500MHz machine with a 10GB hard drive, DVD-RW and just 160 MB RAM (for now, anyone got any PC 100 they want to get rid of cheap?). Anyway, I have got all the email connection sorted ok, I just want to get KMail to check for new messages every couple of mins or so. How do I do it? Like I said, I asked before but can't remember what was said. This time I'll print out the reply and keep it in my folder. Thanks in advance. Peter

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Re: apple kit
by phil 07 Apr '05

07 Apr '05

> Adam > IBM thinkpads are good, and I given that around 50% of Mac laptop > owners > I know have had to send the thing off for repair within the first year > (and quite a few of them more than once) I think Mac laptops suck, > although they do appear to be getting better again so ask me again in > another year. Well - guess they were unlucky - the iBook has had a fair run of dodgy motherboards, but I gather an extra generous replacement program fixed many of those. I'm certainly getting one to replace my G3 Pismo this year which has zero spent on it since I bought it. And it still has a fairly good resale value. > >> When the Dual G5 was first made available it was very hard to build a >> X86 >> based machine with the same real world performance for much less >> money and >> that's completely ignoring the fact that they are one of the best >> designed >> and built Workstations I have ever had the pleasure of pulling to >> bits. > > Also look at how > expensive a Mac that will play Doom III nicely costs compared to an x86 > gaming rig. You're starting to sound like a Winders troll there! > >> You can beat the Mini Mac on a straight price/performance >> comparasion, but >> factor in subjective things like near silent running and the tiny >> form factor >> and you'll struggle to find anything to compare. Just off the top of >> my head >> a MiniITX board, case, memory, Hard drive, Slimline CDRW and PSU >> comes to >> about £250 retail (and that's for less performance and does not >> include an >> operating system or any manufacturer support) > > There have been many other small form factor PCs in the past, tbh I'm > not too worried about how big my computer is as it sits under my desk. > Also you have to factor in the one of the design flaws of the Mac mini > with its dodgy dvi/vga adaptor which isn't compatible for the vesa spec > which to me suggests a big Apple design flaw (so it isn't *always* > sensible design). From what I gather it's a low voltage thing that only shows up on certain monitors? As this is a version one product, guess it'll get resolved in the next revision. Tough on the early adopters I know, but it's not that it won't work with ANY monitors, just SOME. > > The machine I am typing on was originally a 1.4Ghz Athlon with a > Ge-Force 2 card which cost 600 quid, the motherboard died and it cost > 50 quid to replace with a newer better motherboard and around the same > time I upgraded the gfx card to a geforce 4 for 100 quid. At christmas > I upgraded the cpu and gfx card which cost me 200 quid for a 2.mumble > Ghz Athlon and a GeForce 6600GT card and the upgrade required me to buy > some new ram (total 1GB). Every time I have upgraded the machine I have > sold many of the bits on ebay. > > When I add up what it has cost me over 4 years (1050 quid) and what I > got back by selling bits (150 quid, and if I had sold the geforce 2 > card > I would have got another 50 quid) It has cost me 850 quid to have a > machine that is more than fast enough (and at the beginning was fairly > high end) for nearly 4 years with no upgrade projected for another 2 > years I would say that works out as a bit of a bargain compared to an > equivalent Mac (in fact, looking at the Apple store online, an > equivalent (but admittedly slightly faster) G5 Mac would cost me about > 1361 quid. God knows what the price would have been if I had stayed > with > Mac kit from the beginning. Probably 1361 quid... As was stated at the beginning, it's the appliance thing. Many Mac users buy their kit like other people buy stereos or TV's. They use it till they fancy another. I'll use this G4 iMac for about 2 more years and get the latest and greatest to replace it. Obviously they break for some people, - I've a 93 or 4 vintage LC that won't boot, but I've never had a hardware failure in anything else yet. That's about 40 or 50 machines. This that one I've a 1989 Classic upstairs, still runs just fine, never been opened. Logic battery died years ago, but it ticks along. It's a mindset thing. I buy my Mac to do a job. If it earns me enough I buy another.Phil

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Thunderbird help?
by Anthony Anson 07 Apr '05

07 Apr '05

A fiend of mine is having prombles with Thunderbird (1.0 ISTR) I offered to ask for a howto? from the Shed, but I gooved I'd ask in zetnet.support while I was about it. Not having got a lot to pass on, I bethought me of the ALUG list... <Q> Yes please would you ask how to make the Junk empty to Trash automatically. I have ticked the box but it doesn't work :( Anna </Q> -- Tony http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ The only way to tell when a Finn is in love with you is that they look at your feet instead of their own.

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External SATA drives
by Wayne Stallwood 04 Apr '05

04 Apr '05

At the kit meet I was talking to someone about the availability of external SATA enclosures and how we were frustrated that external SATA sockets are available but seemingly there is nothing to plug into them. I think it could have been Noodles but I am not sure Anyway such a device does exist and they are available from Scan (right device, wrong picture on their site) It's the Highpoint Rocketmate 1000, strangely it only supports traditional IDE ATA drives internally and price is not available on the Scan site but I have the product PDF's if whoever it was is interested.

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Setting windows workgroups from DHCP on Linux
by Stuart Bailey 30 Mar '05

30 Mar '05

Hi, Does anyone know if it is possible to configure a DHCP server to automatically assign workgroups to windows clients? Many thanks, -- --------------------------------------- Stuart Bailey BSc (hons) CEng CITP MBCS LinuSoft (Proprietor) (01953) 601294 (07778) 383739 http://www.linusoft.co.uk ---------------------------------------- ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please email postmaster(a)linusoft.co.uk immediately. You should not copy or use this email or attachments for any purpose nor disclose their contents to any other person. NO BINDING CONTRACT WILL RESULT FROM THIS E-MAIL UNTIL SUCH TIME AS A WRITTEN DOCUMENT IS SIGNED ON BEHALF OF LinuSoft. LinuSoft cannot accept any responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks. *************************************************************************

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nfs mounted directory ownerships
by Jenny Hopkins 25 Mar '05

25 Mar '05

Hi all, I have a central directory owned by user 'balloon' on my server. This can be nfs mounted onto serveral other computers, each with a user 'balloon'. However, the server UID for balloon is different from that of the clients. I'm reluctant to start changing things in /etc/passwd. Is there an elegant way to state the nfs mount with username permissions rather than number? Thanks, Jenny

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Max partition size
by beb 25 Mar '05

25 Mar '05

I've just put in a second harddrive (40GB) in my box (running Sarge on a (badly) customised 2.6.10 kernel). I deleted all the old partitions using fdisk and created a single new 40GB one (actually 39.something according to the partition table), but when mounted 'df' reports it as only 17GB. If I create two partitions of roughly 20GB each then 'df' reports the disk size correctly. Can anyone suggest what the problem is please? Also, during my googles about this I kept seeing pages stating that the maximum drive size in linux is 138GB. Was I just looking at old webpages or is that still the case in the latest kernels? Thanks, beb -- <Insert Bill Hicks quote here>

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Caption Competition
by Peter Onion 24 Mar '05

24 Mar '05

I think we need to put some words to this picture.... http://www.btinternet.com/~Peter.Onion/ALUG/caption.jpg >From sunflowerinrain's decription of the day.... "Mike's crimson machine which has refused installs of Redhat, Mandrake, etc. suffered various attempts to install Debian unstable which resulted in it booting into Win98. Brett re-partitioned and de-bootstrapped it and got almost all the way through the process of getting a working Debian before running out of time. " PeterO

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DemosOfferedDemosWanted page on web site
by Peter Onion 23 Mar '05

23 Mar '05

I just found the "DemosOfferedDemosWanted" page on the web site. http://www.alug.org.uk/contrib/?DemosOfferedDemosWanted How "current" are those lists ? Without dates it's impossible to tell when the requests & offers were made. PeterO

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OT: SGI Access
by Ashley T. Howes, Ph.D. 23 Mar '05

23 Mar '05

Hi all, First, apologies for being off-topic, but I'm exploring all opportunities. When I complete my Ph.D. research a few years ago, I done all my work on an SGI. On reviewing my work recently, I discovered that most of animations I created are in SGIs movie format. I've tried some options including xanim to view them in linux, but because I created the movies with compression on each frame, I can't get them to play. Rather than recreating the original files, what I really want to do is convert these files from SGI format to quicktime, or extract the original frames. In fact, there is a command to do this on the SGI - dmconvert. Before I go ahead and buy an SGI via eBay or similar (which may or may not work), I was wondering whether anyone here has, or has access to an SGI which could do the movie conversion. I could supply the original movies on CD for you to convert, or we could work together to do this. I know this is a long shot, but can anyone help me? -- Ashley T. Howes, Ph.D. http://www.ashleyhowes.com "May your spirit be renewed in earth's solitary places." - Native American Indian Blessing

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Re: [ALUG] Multi-card reader
by Chris Glover 23 Mar '05

23 Mar '05

On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 11:49 +0000, Chris Walker wrote: > On Wed 23 Mar, Chris Glover wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 11:15 +0000, Chris Walker wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > I've just removed a USB card reader from my Mandrake 10 system and added > > > a USB 2.0 card and connected up a new multi-card reader to it. But I > > > can't get the system to recognise the new hardware. Where am I going > > > wrong? > > > > > > I've tried googling for multi-card reader but nothing useful comes up. > > > > > > > Hi Chris, > > > > Have you loaded the ehci-hcd module? You need this for USB 2 to work. > > You'll have to talk me through that one. I don't know how to do that. > It's exactly as Brett said. You could try typing /sbin/modprobe ehci-hcd /sbin/modprobe usb-storage You need to be logged in as root. > > Have you tried other devices on this card? Does lsusb show it is there? > > I get 'command not found' for that as I do for modprobe - suggested by Breet > Parker in the list. > What does the output of dmesg show you? To install lsusb on Gentoo, type emerge usbutils It's available on other distros as well, but it's been so long since I used Redhat I've forgotten what th epackage is called. -- Chris ---------------------------------- E Mail: chris(a)glovercc.clara.co.uk SIP: 84411389(a)voiptalk.org IAXTEL: 17003366726

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Re: [ALUG] New Member Intro
by Gareth 23 Mar '05

23 Mar '05

Hey Ben, sorry for the late post, yeah I've had a look at ubuntu but havn't tried the live cd yet. It's an old-world G3 thats been sucking most of my time, so i'm not sure it would work. I've got debian installed and working with a 2.4 kernel, but main problem now is getting X to work wiv an old fixed refresh rate monitor. Got the ati drivers going the other day, but still no joy. I had the machine working with an old copy of Yellowdog (RedHat) and tried just copying the xfree86.config file.. - If anyone thinks they can help lemme know and il'll send in specs. Gonna give debian/ubuntu a go on my powerbook once i have the money to hookup a new harddrive, i 'll need to dual boot as I need a mac partition for my work. As for airport extream, is it that the drivers are still closed source? I've been looking into getting an original airport card but the prices on ebay are mad!! Cheers -Gareth -- "All our knowledge past, present and future is nothing compared to what we will never know." >>Gareth Porteous wrote: >>I've been spending most of my time jostling with Debain getting it >>installed and working on some old world machines to give me something new >>to play with. >> >> >Welcome! >Have you seen the Ubuntu Linux Live CD for powerpc? >http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/releases/hoary/current/ >I tried it on my iBook at work and it looked very good, I've installed >Ubuntu on an iBook before with the "Warty Warthog" release. >Unfortunately the new wireless cards aren't supported because the specs >haven't been released but pretty much everything else works. I'd be >interested to hear how it copes on older kit but you might be right >sticking to Debian for those. > >-- >Ben "tola" Francis http://hippygeek.co.uk >---------------------------------------------------- >COMPUTER SUPPORT for small businesses and home users >http://tolatech.co.uk >----------------------------------------------------

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Re: [ALUG] Multi-card reader
by Brett Parker 23 Mar '05

23 Mar '05

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Chris Walker <chris_linux(a)wymondham.demon.co.uk> wrote: > Hello, > > I've just removed a USB card reader from my Mandrake 10 system and added a > USB 2.0 card and connected up a new multi-card reader to it. But I can't get > the system to recognise the new hardware. Where am I going wrong? > > I've tried googling for multi-card reader but nothing useful comes up. Right, assuming kernel 2.6.x... $ modprobe ehci-hcd $ modprobe usb-storage I can't remember if that's the same for 2.4.x, I know it got changed at some point, but I can't remember the exact point. And marvel as you get SCSI disks ;) Basically, USB multicard readers present themselves as 1 (or more) usb mass storage devices, that are then treated as SCSI devices. My 6 in 1 presents itself as 4 devices, for example, one for each different shaped hole. Hope that helps - -- Brett Parker web: http://www.sommitrealweird.co.uk/ email: iDunno(a)sommitrealweird.co.uk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCQVGAEh8oWxevnjQRAsQjAKCfv2R/ooN3Io8RlmUhGKloBaj2jgCfdQck Hbwek0l2MpYm4FFZ4amfFxU= =Nj8h -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [ALUG] Spring Kit Meet
by John Seago 23 Mar '05

23 Mar '05

On Wednesday 23 Mar 2005 06:26, Anthony Anson <tony.anson(a)zetnet.co.uk> wrote: > Have you tried makingh a tisane from feverfew leaves? Whilst they grow quite readily, we had them all over a previous garden, you have to make sure that you get the right variety of Feverfew. -- John Seago GNU/Linux User #219566 http://counter.li.org AFFS http://www.affs.org.uk/

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NetGEM Netbox - modem isdn network (dsl) version
by Mardin 22 Mar '05

22 Mar '05

Hi everybody, I found some threads on this list talking about Netgems Netbox (connected via ISDN, MODEM or Network) ... Anybody has some informations about hacking the box or getting custom firmware ... I have one with 56k modem ... maybe it is a neutral box (maybe developers one) ... I'm very happy about getting every information available ... I'm little frustrated about aswers from netgem ... not giving any internal information about the box ... Last time I saw someone who sells the box on TV shopping channels ... maybe it was TRLshop in germany ... 150 EURO :-) ... I bought one on ebay for about 39 EURO *g* It will be nice to startup a project ... if some people will join it ... Thanks to the community Martin

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Spring Kit Meet
by Elisabeth 22 Mar '05

22 Mar '05

Present: Jonathan (Noodles), Mark (slef), Brett (iDunno), Martijn (mak), James (mChicago), Ashley (Ashley), Peter Onion (PeterO), Gareth (flux), Mike, Rob, flux' brother Graeme, James W, and Eli/elspeth (sunflowerinrain) Mike's crimson machine which has refused installs of Redhat, Mandrake, etc. suffered various attempts to install Debian unstable which resulted in it booting into Win98. Brett re-partitioned and de-bootstrapped it and got almost all the way through the process of getting a working Debian before running out of time. Noodles got rid of some of his collection of junk ("anyone want a Psion 3A?") and acquired a printer. Peter's Elliot 803 emulator - the Noise Machine - was much admired, as was J's embryonic museum. Martijn/mak did a Xen demo of virtual machines - VNC onto Fedora and Debian; he also took mugshots with the clever idea of adding names, so we know who we are now. We had tea, a filter coffee machine and an expresso machine, and many kinds of cake and biscuit, including Rob's home-made bara brith (tea bread, boyo) which was more fruit and nut than cake. Suddenly time was up and we had to clear up and leave in a hurry. Some people went for fish n chips then on to the Fat Cat, where a Lisa joined us to watch geeks at play; finally a few went to see Constantine and the rest went home. Good day.

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Kit Meet Photos
by Martijn Koster 21 Mar '05

21 Mar '05

I've posted the who's-who photos from today's ALUG kit meet on http://www.greenhills.co.uk/mak/ALUG-Kit-Meet-20050320/ALUG-Kit-Meet-200503… It was good fun to see everyone, especially new faces, and to see what people are up to. From simple Linux installs (ehr Brett?), to mChicago's collection of mini-itx bits, and Peter's impressive (if noisy!) Elliot 803 emulator. A big thank-you to Elisabeth for organising the room, and to everyone for bringing food&drink... -- Martijn

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RE: [ALUG] Kit Meet Photos
by Elisabeth 21 Mar '05

21 Mar '05

>===== Original Message From Mike Morton <mtm(a)cmp.uea.ac.uk> ===== >Many many thanks! I owe you a round or three next time >we're in the City Gate. :-) That'll be the Reindeer! e

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detecting power failure
by Richard Lewis 21 Mar '05

21 Mar '05

Hello ALUG, Does anyone know if there will be a log entry somewhere on my Debian system (or anything else) which will tell me if it suffered a power failure over the weekend? I've just noticed that the web and database servers on my workstation (I use them for testing code) were running when I came in this morning and I'm sure I stopped them both on Friday. Everything else about the machine is normal. Cheers, Richard

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Anyone know what the implications of lo (loopback interface) not working?
by Simon Marden 21 Mar '05

21 Mar '05

I have Fedora server running behind an ADSL router that is set to allow a default LAN DMZ address matching the servers fixed internal IP. Now, until the other day (this has worked for weeks), I could see the server from the internet just fine, then it must have dropped off on a bootup one morning. The only problem I can find with the networking is the fact that the lo interface seems to be broken for some reason. eth0 works just fine and I can access the server on the LAN, just not through the router. Which by the way is a Netgear DG834G and has not been fiddled with in any way i.e I haven't changed the config at all lately. Thanks for listening :) Si. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 18/03/2005

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"pharming"
by Ted.Harding＠nessie.mcc.ac.uk 21 Mar '05

21 Mar '05

Hi Folks, I've just read a Guardian article this morning about the "pharming" scam -- unlike "phishing" where you click on a real-looking URL in an email, with a false one hidden behind it, this depends on a rogue program infiltrated into the computer which re-directs a genuine URL to a false address which then mimics the real one. See: http://www.guardian.co.uk/online/news/0,12597,1442474,00.html The article concludes: In a reversal of current internet security protocols, banks may attempt to tackle the virus by proving their own identity to customers when they visit their sites. I would have thought the simple solution was for people just to use the IP address, e.g. http://155.136.80.71/EbankLoginStuff instead of http://www.rbs.co.uk/EbankLoginStuff for the Royal Bank of Scotland. Or am I missing a trick? Best wishes to all, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 21-Mar-05 Time: 07:51:27 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------

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Intel ICH6 Soundcard - Analogue and SPDIF
by Chris Glover 20 Mar '05

20 Mar '05

Hi, I have a Shuttle SB83G5 machine, which has an Intel ICH6 chipset. I've got the soundcard working with ALSA using the snd-intel8x0 driver. My problem is this, I can get audio via the analogue outputs or the SPDIF output, but not both at the same time. I've done a fair bit of googling, and by the looks of it, no one has suceeded. Anybody here managed to get the same thing to both outputs at the same time? The soundcard is the same as the Intel8x0/nForce2/Realtek ALC650. If only I had a spare PCI slot, I'd stick a Creative Audigy in it. Never had any trouble with that outputting to both places at the same time. Thanks in advance Chris -- Chris ---------------------------------- E Mail: chris(a)glovercc.clara.co.uk SIP: 84411389(a)voiptalk.org IAXTEL: 17003366726

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New Member Intro
by Gareth Porteous 20 Mar '05

20 Mar '05

Hey guys, I should really introduce myself properly. My name's Gareth (but my friends call me Gari) and I've been lurking around on the irc server from time to time as flux. Some of you will know me as the guy who came along to the City Gate on the 10th and sat in the corner talking to Kirsten for most of it. Forgive me for doing that and not introducing myself, I was feeling kinda shy as I wasn't expecting there to be so many peeps turning up. I enjoyed it all nevertheless, and it was nice to meet some like-minded people, good fun too listening to lots of different stories and of course various rants about floating point math... well maybe I dosed off a bit at that point! ;-) Anyway I'm basically a 23 year old mac-head whose been in touch with *nix for quite a while now. My first experience was way back in the 90's when I attempted to install something called MKLinux on an old powerpc. I didn't get very far at all but it lit a spark and since then I've had experience with shell accounts and a small amount of programming. I guess my current *nix experience comes from, dare I mention it - MacOSX!.. Tho recently I've been spending most of my time jostling with Debain getting it installed and working on some old world machines to give me something new to play with. As far as my job is concerned I've just been doing a spot of work for a guy who runs Computek, a macintosh repair place based in Norwich, and also working as a digital assistant photographer. Technically I'm freelance so I get to work from home most of the time, but that can be a curse too, especially when u don't get paid on quiet days to geek out. I'm hoping to come along to the kit meet on Sunday 20th. It'll be cool to meet some of u guys again and checkout the general vibe a bit more. Should be up for a good few drinks after too!! I may also bring my brother Graeme along as he's back on study leave from Aberystwyth university. He's doing maths there and is more of a geek than I am in many ways. We've both been very interested in Linux and the Open Source community for quite a while and really want to extend our experience in that direction. With the hope that one day soon we can pledge our allegiance to that big giant penguin... :-) Look forward to meeting you all! Take care -Gareth

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By car to the Kit Meet
by Elisabeth 20 Mar '05

20 Mar '05

Constable Terrace is next to the Central Car Park (which is not the Main Car Park). At the main entrance to UEA, take the right lane and turn right onto the campus. Go down the hill, following signs for Central Car Park. It's a left turn. Parking costs £1. e/sunflowerinrain

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RAM-disk[?] on USB mem-stick?
by Ted.Harding＠nessie.mcc.ac.uk 19 Mar '05

19 Mar '05

Hi Folks, I've had a 256MB USB memory stick for a few weeks -- very useful for transferring files etc. Now -- this is twice the RAM (128MB) on my laptop. It would often be useful to have more RAM! Is there a way to extend RAM using such a device? (Something like a RAM-disk appended to hardware RAM). Thanks, and best wishes to all, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 17-Mar-05 Time: 22:39:05 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------

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