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More copyright issues - perhaps.
by Anthony Anson 25 Jan '05

25 Jan '05

Apologies for the Shedspeak. ============ Start of forwarded message ============ From: "Dr Ivan D. Reid" <expunged.address> Newsgroup: uk.rec.sheds Subject: Re: B.B.C. wibblefiles... On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 01:58:17 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades <creaking.gate(a)foobar.zetnet.co.uk> wrote in <313030303230303841F5A7B903(a)foobar.zetnet.co.uk>: > Do any Sheddi xabj whether you can download pogroms (I wanna file of > Hitler in Therapy - or simla title - a play from the Whirled Swervice > wot were boredcast ver recently.) rather than hfr the 'listen again' > thingy wot (I bleeve) jbexeth in reeltime? Or RealAudio even. Saw this yesterday, Look for Streambox VCR: http://www.eff.org/endangered/ -- Ivan Reid, Electronic & Computer Engineering, (rest of sig expunged) ============ End of forwarded message ============ -- Tony http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ The only way to tell when a Finn is in love with you is that they look at your feet instead of their own.

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Job in Wymondham
by Keith Watson 25 Jan '05

25 Jan '05

Casually browsing round jobserve.co.uk I came across this vacancy, http://www.jobserve.co.uk/W8418B30DC608043B.job , thought it might be of interest to one or more on the list. Regards, Keith ____________ 'I always use the word impossible with the greatest caution.' - - Wernher Von Braun

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Onspeed
by Ted.Harding＠nessie.mcc.ac.uk 23 Jan '05

23 Jan '05

Hi Folks, Luggers using dial-up in the Anglian sticks (and these are about as sticky as sticks get) may like to keep an eye on http://www.onspeed.com/ They claim to offer compression-based internet connections which are capable of increasing the throughput by a factor of about 10: 30kb/s->300kb/s. This is nudging broadband rates. And it's portable. At present, it is available for "PC" (= Windows) and Mac, for £24.96 a year. It involves installing some software on the machine that dials up and apparently routing the connection through onspeed. According to their website: http://www.onspeed.com/en/using.php#existing "Next year we expect to bring out software for Linux. Please email us here to let us know which platforms / browsers you are interested in and we will get in touch with you when available." and it looks as though that web page was written in 2004... Maybe if we follow their suggestion, and encourage them a bit, they might accelerate this a bit! If they've done it for Mac OSX they can't be a hundred miles from doing it for Linux. Any comments from people who are already familiar with Onspeed would be welcome. Best wishes to all, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 [NB: New number!] Date: 23-Jan-05 Time: 20:48:01 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------

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Open Office, how to run it?
by Chris Green 23 Jan '05

23 Jan '05

I have just downloaded and installed Open Office 1.1.4, it all went quite smoothly. However there is just one little problem, there's no clue anywhere on how to actually run it now I have installed it! Is some part of the installed Open Office hierarchy supposed to be on my PATH? -- Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk) "Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence."

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Hi there!
by Wai 23 Jan '05

23 Jan '05

Hello all, I'm Wai Ngai. There are several reasons I'm interested in Linux. I inherited a tacked together MS network on flaky machines at new work. I'm fed up of MS licencing, random reboots and losing clockcycles to scanning for viruses 24/7! I like the idea that as I get more used to Linux I can add to it, optimise it, contribute to the community. I've recently got a laptop off ebay purely for linux. FYI its a Toshiba 3480CT ultraportable. Its been two weeks of late nights trying to get Linux on there (docking station components, usb floppy emulation, second hand parts?). Finally Suse 9.0 pro is installing without too many problems. With any luck I will be on that machine when next writing. Hope everyone is good. Cheers, Wai __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Ubuntu and Powerpc Wireless
by Ben Francis 23 Jan '05

23 Jan '05

Quite a while back someone in the IRC channel expressed interest when I said I'd installed Ubuntu on my iBook and they wanted to know if you could use wireless networking. I can't remember who it was, sorry. The answer (after a very quick Google), is no. I'm very disappointed about that. Apparently the necessary specifications haven't been released. So, unless anyone knows otherwise, I guess the best we can do is pester Apple... -- Ben "tola" Francis http://hippygeek.co.uk ---------------------------------------------------- COMPUTER SUPPORT for small businesses and home users http://tolatech.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------

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Software patents on the march again!
by tom potts 21 Jan '05

21 Jan '05

Help - the EU's tring to rubberstamp software patents again http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20050121034203123 Please protest and spread this far and wide Tom ___________________________________________________________ ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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RE: [ALUG] scp
by Keith Watson 21 Jan '05

21 Jan '05

Is rsnapshot <http://www.rsnapshot.org/> of any use to you? Regards, Keith ____________ Sushi - its not fresh, its raw!

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scp
by Richard Lewis 21 Jan '05

21 Jan '05

Hello ALUG, I'm trying to write a bash script to mirror some files on my server to another machine (to be run periodically, not a dynamic mirror). First it creates a file which contains the full path of all the files that need to be copied (they are in lots of different directories) separated by newlines (I'd like to keep this aspect of the script as it is also used to create an ISO to backup to DVD sometimes). Next I want to copy all the files in the list to the remote computer. (I've been reading up on scp and have managed to add my key the remote machine so that the script isn't interrupted by password prompts.) The problem I've got is that each item in the list is the name of a regular file including its path and scp won't allow me to copy to the remote machine into a path which doesn't exist: $ROOT=/var/server-mirror ..... for f in `cat FILES` do scp $f $USER@$HOST:$ROOT/$f done [where each $f will be the absolute path of the local file, e.g. '/var/www/index.html' which should copy to '/var/server-mirror/var/www/index.html' on the remote machine] The -r switch, of course, isn't the solution because that only applies to directories at the local end and still doesn't allow you to copy to non-existant directories at the remote end. I suppose what I need is a sort of 'rmkdir' with the -p switch: rmkdir -p $HOST:$ROOT/`dirname $f` Any ideas? Cheers, Richard PS. Theres no need to use scp if a solution exists using something else.... -- Richard Lewis richardlewis(a)fastmail.co.uk

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DVD Video processing software help needed
by Barry Samuels 20 Jan '05

20 Jan '05

I have recently aquired a DVD recorder and I want to record on it, transfer the result to my computer, do some simple editing (chop out adverts) and write the results back to a different DVD. I can transfer the contents of a DVD to my computer using DVD-Rip. I can edit the resultant .VOB files using Avidemux. What I can't find out how to do is to write the results back to a DVD. One of my problems is that I really don't understand much of the terminology. Any advice, as non-technical as possible, will be much appreciated. -- Barry Samuels http://www.beenthere-donethat.org.uk The Unofficial Guide to Great Britain

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ALUG Library
by Wayne Stallwood 19 Jan '05

19 Jan '05

As most of you may already know, as of the Christmas meal I have taken over responsibility for the ALUG library. Any future library queries or donations should be directed to myself, Any books due to be returned can be given to me at the next ALUG meeting or if you prefer, posted to the following address. ALUG Library Crimson Technology 4 Hatter Street Bury St Edmunds Suffolk IP33 1LZ I hope I can provide the same level of service and commitment to this task as Kirsten and Adam have done for the past two years. After a few more days of final tweaking I hope to have the ALUG library online, regardless of it's popularity (or lack of) this will be the method by which I will keep track of the books. The tried and tested method of comming to a meeting (I hope to be at quite a few from now on) or emailing me to borrow a book will still work, however the online library will allow you to make a reservation or check the status of a book as well as browse the inventory or look at book reviews posted by other members. Wayne

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Re: KDE/Ubuntu
by John Seago 19 Jan '05

19 Jan '05

There is also this site: http://ubuntuguide.org/ However if you have broadband it may be easier just to make an FTP install of Debian Sarge. -- John Seago GNU/Linux User #219566 http://counter.li.org AFFS http://www.affs.org.uk/

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Re: KDE/Ubuntu
by John Seago 19 Jan '05

19 Jan '05

On Wednesday 19 Jan 2005 06:25, Barry Samuels <bsamuels(a)beenthere-donethat.org.uk> wrote: > I installed Ubuntu a few months ago as a trial, I normally use Debian, > and that install included KDE so Ubuntu must have KDE packages on > their lists somewhere. Sorry can't remember exactly what I did but > it can't have been difficult. See: http://homex.subnet.at/~max/ubuntu/index.php and: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ -- John Seago GNU/Linux User #219566 http://counter.li.org AFFS http://www.affs.org.uk/

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Debian video card choice
by Richard Lewis 18 Jan '05

18 Jan '05

Hello ALUG, I'm just installing Debian ("testing") on a Viglen Incepta II to be used a general purpose workstation but I don't know what sort of graphics card I should tell it to use in the X configuration (i.e. when I say # dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86). There seems to be very little information about these machines on the Web except for this page: http://www.viglen.co.uk/devportal/std/storefront/inceptas.asp?guid=19364156… Following the 'Specifications' link tells us that it has 'integrated AGP 4x' graphics but I don't know what that means :-( Any ideas? Cheers, Richard PS. Actually, does anyone know what I should tell it about the mouse? Its USB..... -- Richard Lewis richardlewis(a)fastmail.co.uk

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I'm going to kill that damn frog
by BenEBoy 17 Jan '05

17 Jan '05

OK, that motorcycle sound making frog phone-tone advert that seems to be on every webpage recently is annoying the hell out of me. Does anyone know how to turn off the sound in firefox please? I can't see anything on the prefs page or about:config. I don't care how it's done (short of compiling the source), please help me get rid of that frogs tedious 'brrrmmmmm'ing noises (and all the other beeps and sounds some web developers like to use) ;) (running firefox 0.8 on Sarge) beb -------------------------------- I'm getting pissed for xmas, just like the rest of the year, There's no future in this world of ours, so I might as well have a beer.

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 17 Jan '05

17 Jan '05

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Archives / spam (Jonathan?)
by Joe Button 15 Jan '05

15 Jan '05

Hi. I think this is probably mostly for Jonathan - IIRC you do Black Cat Networks? I seem to get a fair amount of spam to the address I subscribe to this list with. Presumably the spammers are that address from the public archives of this list at lists.blackcatnetworks.co.uk / lists.alug.org.uk. Is there any possibility of mungeing the addresses or something in the public archives? Cheers, Joe

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Re: new toy
by phil 14 Jan '05

14 Jan '05

> > > Not strictly Linux related but has anyone seen the new Mac Mini that's > recently been announced ? > > http://www.apple.com/uk/macmini/ > > Looks pretty sweet to me and I also find it quietly amusing that for > less than > twice the price of a boxed copy of Windows XP Pro you can buy an OS > that is > at least twice as good, plus the hardware to run it on. > Well I know a few people locally who are looking at least one of these. Anyone interested in arranging a bulk east anglian order? Or, alternatively a bulk order of cheap monitor, keyboard and mouse bundles... Seriously though, as an alternative to a mini-itx box, which I'd been considering, I could see it as a good home to try a PPC distro. I've been trying out the Apple X11 implimentation the past few days, anyone suggest some must have apps to run on it. I have open office and space invaders so far, but I'm looking for a decent 3D modelling program? Phil

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Networking printers with Linux
by Chris Green 14 Jan '05

14 Jan '05

I'm still trying to decide what all-in-one printer (if any) suits our needs best. I've narrowed down to a shortlist of:- Brother MFC5840CN or MFC3440CN - Linux drivers soon, ethernet and USB Canon MP780 - No Linux drivers, USB HP 7310 or 6110 - No Linux drivers, but PCL3. USB and ethernet. Lexmark X7170 - Win2k and XP only Dell 962 - Dell badged Lexmark X7170 The Dell 962 is unbelievably cheap at the moment (£83 or so) and is basically a Lexmark X7170 with a few cosmetic changes. The Canon also looks good. The HPs are good but not perfect, the Windows drivers use more than 250MB and I've seen reports of problems with them. I *might* thus decide to go for a Windows only printer which raises a question:- Can I connect a printer with a USB interface to my Linux box and share it with Samba so that my Win2k systems can use it even though it doesn't have Linux drivers. If I can do this then the Dell 962 and Canon MP780 are possible but, if not, then I think Brother is the front runner. -- Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk) "Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence."

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Argh! automatic email filtering systems
by adam＠thebowery.co.uk 14 Jan '05

14 Jan '05

Hi all, The list admins are getting lots of messages saying this:- From: Mail Sieve Subsystem <postmaster(a)messagingengine.com> To: main-admin(a)lists.alug.org.uk Subject: Automatically rejected mail It looks like someone has subscribed to some kind of filtering by messagingengine.com, which means for every mail that goes to the list the main-admins get a reject notice. If by any chance you know who is using this system then if you can let me or them know that would be great, (or indeed if you are that person and are reading this mail elsewhere then please make it stop!). Any (quick+easy) suggestions of how to track down the person whose mail setup is causing these would be most useful. Oh, and messagingengine.com sucks, as going through the headers I can't find any info on which email address the mail was destined for in the first place as it appears to only look reference the body of the email and not the envelope or delivery addresses :( Thanks Adam -- jabberid = quinophex(a)jabber.earth.li AFFS || http://www.affs.org.uk/ || Not a filesystem

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Re: printers in linux
by tom potts 14 Jan '05

14 Jan '05

On the slim offchance that this is not a grandmother/egg/vacuum stituation: http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2005/01/13/lnxckbk_samba.html Tom Knowledge is Power: The Encyclopedia Britanica will generate 37.3KwH in a condensing boiler. ___________________________________________________________ ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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RE: [ALUG] Networking printers with Linux
by Keith Watson 14 Jan '05

14 Jan '05

This is probably a silly question but have you looked at www.linuxprinting.org ? I expect you have, but Justin Case (whoever he is :o) ) Regards, Keith ____________ Beginning is easy - continuing is hard. - Japanese Proverb > -----Original Message----- > From: main-admin(a)lists.alug.org.uk > [mailto:main-admin@lists.alug.org.uk]On Behalf Of Chris Green > Sent: 13 January 2005 14:42 > To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > Subject: [ALUG] Networking printers with Linux > > > I'm still trying to decide what all-in-one printer (if any) suits our > needs best. I've narrowed down to a shortlist of:- > Brother MFC5840CN or MFC3440CN - Linux drivers soon, > ethernet and USB > Canon MP780 - No Linux drivers, USB > HP 7310 or 6110 - No Linux drivers, but PCL3. USB and ethernet. > Lexmark X7170 - Win2k and XP only > Dell 962 - Dell badged Lexmark X7170 > > The Dell 962 is unbelievably cheap at the moment (£83 or so) and is > basically a Lexmark X7170 with a few cosmetic changes. The Canon also > looks good. The HPs are good but not perfect, the Windows drivers > use more than 250MB and I've seen reports of problems with them. > > I *might* thus decide to go for a Windows only printer which raises a > question:- > > Can I connect a printer with a USB interface to my Linux box and > share it with Samba so that my Win2k systems can use it even > though it doesn't have Linux drivers. > > If I can do this then the Dell 962 and Canon MP780 are possible but, > if not, then I think Brother is the front runner. > > -- > Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk) > > "Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by > incompetence." > > _______________________________________________ > main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > http://www.alug.org.uk/ > http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main > Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above! >

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Any experience with Brother printers here?
by Chris Green 13 Jan '05

13 Jan '05

I'm thinking of buying an 'all-in-one' printer to save space in our home office and some of the Brother models seem to offer all we want at a reasonable price. In particular we're interested in the MFC3345CN and the MFC5840CN. I've not had particularly good experience with Brother printers, we had an HL1060 laser for quite a while and it was never really quite as good as it should have been. The HP1150 laser we replaced it with is much better and more trouble-free. However the MFC3345CN and MFC5840CN. are inkjets so are rather different. Does anyone have any experience with these two (or similar) Brother printers? They both offer:- 20ppm B&W, 15ppm colour inkjet printing (take the speeds with a pinch of salt, isn't really important). Fax Scanner (MFC3345CN sheet feed, MFC5840CN flat bed) Photo printing with photo card readers Copier function Automatic Document Feeder What I'm particularly interested in is:- Paper handling reliability and space used by paper in and out. Quality of printing (compared with HP 840C for example) Linux compatibility -- Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk) "Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence."

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Where has everyone gone?
by Chris Green 12 Jan '05

12 Jan '05

Where's everyone gone? It's been very quiet here for the past few days. Or has something gone wrong with my E-Mail (I'm seeing my own messages though). I'm still wondering about printers for our SoHo system, I'm not so sure that the Brother all-in-one is the right way to go now. What we have at present is:- Old Brother thermal paper fax machine HP840C inkjet Epson 1650 photo scanner HP1150 laser printer I'd really like to take less space for all these facilities which was why I was looking at the Brother, it would replace the fax machine and the HP840C and give standalone copying as well. To bring Linux into the equation whatever printer(s) I get have to work for Linux as well as for Win2k. Currently the HP840C and 1150 are on a print server and there are reasonable Linux drivers for both these printers. It gets more complicated with newer printers though as many only have USB and that means I'd probably have to have them connected to the Linux box and make them available using Samba. Some printers have built in networking (like the Brothers) and that adds a further grey area in that I don't know if the networking they provide is compatible with Linux. One thing I'd really like is a duplex (i.e. double sided) printer which would replace the HP1150 as the workhorse printer. Many of the latest generation of colour lasers have reasonably cheap duplex add-ons (or have it built in) so this could well be one way to go, though it doesn't save any space. Again does anyone know if any of the cheap colour laser printers work well with Linux? (e.g. Samsung CLP500/CLP550, Epson C900, C1100, Minolta 2300). -- Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk) "Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence."

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ALUG site hosting and Library things
by Wayne Stallwood 12 Jan '05

12 Jan '05

Who is responsible for the hosting of the ALUG site, does anybody know if it has the facilities I would need to host the ALUG Library there ? Primarily I need MySQL and PHP, although shell access would also be nice. I really don't mind hosting it in some free webspace I got from my ISP (where it is now) we could link to it from the main ALUG site and all would be well.....except for a few tiny things. Plusnet's CGI and MySQL servers are a bit slow sometimes. It's just not as tidy when a link for an ALUG facility takes you to a third parties domain for what is supposed to be part of the LUG. But mainly there are a couple of things I would like to add down the road that really aren't going to be that easy with it where it is right now. One is that I would (eventually) like to create (or convince some kind soul to contribute) some php hack that lists book reviews on a page on the ALUG site outside of the library login. As pointed out by Ashley this may help us get more books donated in the future by publishers. Another thing I thought of is tying the library registration into the list subscription mechanism, so as soon as you join the list you get an email with a username and random password from the library. Unfortunately both of these things really need access to the library database from outside my hosting provider's domain (something I don't think plusnet provide)

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