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[ALUG Announce] ALUG Norwich Pub Meet Thursday 12th July
by Viperfang 10 Jul '18

10 Jul '18

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- Hello Norwich Aluggers, Our monthly ALUG Norwich social meeting will be held this Thursday, 12th July at The Coach and Horses (82 Thorpe Road, Norwich, NR1 1BA). The meeting officially starts at 8pm, although some people may arrive earlier. More information on those people can be found on the list and the IRC channel. If you are unsure if you will recognise us then make yourself and your intent to attend known by either posting on list or visiting us on IRC so we can look out for you rather than hiding in the corner. Optionally you could ask at the bar if they know where the geeky computer weirdos are and they'll point you in the right direction (seriously!). Another possibility is look for heaps of electronics on a table that may possibly look like movie props that would used for detonating explosives. Feel free to bring electronics/laptops/gadgets to the meet, you will by no means be alone. Ben Bewick aka Viperfang NB: This mail is automated, please refer to the usual sources for more information. ALUG Contact Details: Website : http://www.alug.org.uk/ IRC : #alug on irc.alug.org.uk List : http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo Twitter : http://twitter.com/anglianlug Identica: TBA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2381613902 ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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2600 meeting at 18:00 on Friday the 6th July.
by Viperfang 03 Jul '18

03 Jul '18

Quick heads up about this months Norwich 2600 meeting, more info at http://www.norwich2600.co.uk

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[ALUG Announce] ALUG Norwich Pub Meet Thursday 14th June
by Viperfang 11 Jun '18

11 Jun '18

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- Hello Norwich Aluggers, Our monthly ALUG Norwich social meeting will be held this Thursday, 14th June at The Coach and Horses (82 Thorpe Road, Norwich, NR1 1BA). The meeting officially starts at 8pm, although some people may arrive earlier. More information on those people can be found on the list and the IRC channel. If you are unsure if you will recognise us then make yourself and your intent to attend known by either posting on list or visiting us on IRC so we can look out for you rather than hiding in the corner. Optionally you could ask at the bar if they know where the geeky computer weirdos are and they'll point you in the right direction (seriously!). Another possibility is look for heaps of electronics on a table that may possibly look like movie props that would used for detonating explosives. Feel free to bring electronics/laptops/gadgets to the meet, you will by no means be alone. Ben Bewick aka Viperfang NB: This mail is automated, please refer to the usual sources for more information. ALUG Contact Details: Website : http://www.alug.org.uk/ IRC : #alug on irc.alug.org.uk List : http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo Twitter : http://twitter.com/anglianlug Identica: TBA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2381613902 ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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2600 meeting at 18:00 on Friday the 1st June.
by Viperfang 29 May '18

29 May '18

Quick heads up about this months Norwich 2600 meeting, more info at http://www.norwich2600.co.uk

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Random mounting problems
by Bev Nicolson 24 May '18

24 May '18

What's the best thing to do if your pc decides, of its own volition, not to recognise any form of device, be it your MP3 player, your phone or a usb stick? Try to manually mount the thing? (Found some instructions.) Reboot? It refused last night, it was fine this morning. Bev.

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[ALUG Announce] ALUG Norwich Pub Meet Thursday 10th May
by Viperfang 08 May '18

08 May '18

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- Hello Norwich Aluggers, Our monthly ALUG Norwich social meeting will be held this Thursday, 10th May at The Coach and Horses (82 Thorpe Road, Norwich, NR1 1BA). The meeting officially starts at 8pm, although some people may arrive earlier. More information on those people can be found on the list and the IRC channel. If you are unsure if you will recognise us then make yourself and your intent to attend known by either posting on list or visiting us on IRC so we can look out for you rather than hiding in the corner. Optionally you could ask at the bar if they know where the geeky computer weirdos are and they'll point you in the right direction (seriously!). Another possibility is look for heaps of electronics on a table that may possibly look like movie props that would used for detonating explosives. Feel free to bring electronics/laptops/gadgets to the meet, you will by no means be alone. Ben Bewick aka Viperfang NB: This mail is automated, please refer to the usual sources for more information. ALUG Contact Details: Website : http://www.alug.org.uk/ IRC : #alug on irc.alug.org.uk List : http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo Twitter : http://twitter.com/anglianlug Identica: TBA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2381613902 ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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2600 meeting at 18:00 on Friday the 4th May.
by Viperfang 01 May '18

01 May '18

Quick heads up about this months Norwich 2600 meeting, more info at http://www.norwich2600.co.uk

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Gimp - help
by Bev Nicolson 25 Apr '18

25 Apr '18

Gimp 2.8 is doing its best to annoy me. Do any of you have any tips? (I have googled the manual and it didn't help.) What I want to do is separate an object from the background. I've tried intelligent scissors and pressing clear just clears the lot, rather than the background. Ditto free select. And I just end up with a trailing free select lasso over the object I want to separate. Bev.

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[ALUG Announce] ALUG Norwich Pub Meet Thursday 12th April
by Viperfang 09 Apr '18

09 Apr '18

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- Hello Norwich Aluggers, Our monthly ALUG Norwich social meeting will be held this Thursday, 12th April at The Coach and Horses (82 Thorpe Road, Norwich, NR1 1BA). The meeting officially starts at 8pm, although some people may arrive earlier. More information on those people can be found on the list and the IRC channel. If you are unsure if you will recognise us then make yourself and your intent to attend known by either posting on list or visiting us on IRC so we can look out for you rather than hiding in the corner. Optionally you could ask at the bar if they know where the geeky computer weirdos are and they'll point you in the right direction (seriously!). Another possibility is look for heaps of electronics on a table that may possibly look like movie props that would used for detonating explosives. Feel free to bring electronics/laptops/gadgets to the meet, you will by no means be alone. Ben Bewick aka Viperfang NB: This mail is automated, please refer to the usual sources for more information. ALUG Contact Details: Website : http://www.alug.org.uk/ IRC : #alug on irc.alug.org.uk List : http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo Twitter : http://twitter.com/anglianlug Identica: TBA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2381613902 ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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xorg config for touchscreens
by Mark Rogers 23 Mar '18

23 Mar '18

Any xorg config wizards here? I have a touchscreen (attached to a Pi, if relevant) that will show web pages in a kiosky way. That means I want to disable everything that the touchscreen can do beyond point and click. That is, I want to get rid of any right-click emulation, click&drag to select, multi-touch, etc. Bit of a long shot but my Googling so far isn't throwing up any likely solutions. I *think* what I want is: - short press = click - long press = click (ie no different from short press) - drag across screen = do nothing (unless very short distance in which case treat as a click) - any multi-touch = do nothing Mark -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) 21 Drakes Mews, Milton Keynes, MK8 0ER

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Booting into a browser without a desktop manager
by Mark Rogers 07 Mar '18

07 Mar '18

I want to configure a Linux box (Pi with Raspbian stretch lite if relevant) so that it boots to a web browser as a GUI, without any desktop environment. So far I have most of the bits working apart from the actual "do it on boot" bit. If I boot my Pi, login (at the terminal) then run the following: xinit ~/kiosk-xinit.sh -- :0 vt1 -nocursor -keeptty & .. where kiosk-init.sh contains: #!/bin/sh DISPLAY=:0.0 xset s noblank DISPLAY=:0.0 xset s off DISPLAY=:0.0 xset -dpms matchbox-window-manager & while true ; do /usr/bin/midori -e Fullscreen -a http://www.google.co.uk done .. then I get the environment I want. What I need to achieve is having it do that without me logging in manually and running xinit. I assume I need to have it autologin (in which case I'd like it to log in as aa user with limited privileges) but my experiments so far have got me nowhere other than a realisation of how little I know about the boot process.... Ideally I want to do this in a way that'll work on generic Linux boxes but for now a Pi-specific option would be a start! -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) 21 Drakes Mews, Milton Keynes, MK8 0ER

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Re: [ALUG] [ALUG Announce] ALUG Norwich Pub Meet Thursday 8th March
by Ucalagon 07 Mar '18

07 Mar '18

Dear Ben – thanks for keeping me in the loop. Can’t get to evening meetings but still running Ubuntu 16 on a dual boot machine. Just finished building new tower eager for Ubuntu 18 due out v soon. Keep the LinuFaith!! David in Ditchingham Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Viperfang Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2018 9:13 PM To: announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Subject: [ALUG Announce] ALUG Norwich Pub Meet Thursday 8th March ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- Hello Norwich Aluggers, Our monthly ALUG Norwich social meeting will be held this Thursday, 8th March at The Coach and Horses (82 Thorpe Road, Norwich, NR1 1BA). The meeting officially starts at 8pm, although some people may arrive earlier. More information on those people can be found on the list and the IRC channel. If you are unsure if you will recognise us then make yourself and your intent to attend known by either posting on list or visiting us on IRC so we can look out for you rather than hiding in the corner. Optionally you could ask at the bar if they know where the geeky computer weirdos are and they'll point you in the right direction (seriously!). Another possibility is look for heaps of electronics on a table that may possibly look like movie props that would used for detonating explosives. Feel free to bring electronics/laptops/gadgets to the meet, you will by no means be alone. Ben Bewick aka Viperfang NB: This mail is automated, please refer to the usual sources for more information. ALUG Contact Details: Website : http://www.alug.org.uk/ IRC : #alug on irc.alug.org.uk List : http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo Twitter : http://twitter.com/anglianlug Identica: TBA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2381613902 ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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[ALUG Announce] ALUG Norwich Pub Meet Thursday 8th March
by Viperfang 06 Mar '18

06 Mar '18

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- Hello Norwich Aluggers, Our monthly ALUG Norwich social meeting will be held this Thursday, 8th March at The Coach and Horses (82 Thorpe Road, Norwich, NR1 1BA). The meeting officially starts at 8pm, although some people may arrive earlier. More information on those people can be found on the list and the IRC channel. If you are unsure if you will recognise us then make yourself and your intent to attend known by either posting on list or visiting us on IRC so we can look out for you rather than hiding in the corner. Optionally you could ask at the bar if they know where the geeky computer weirdos are and they'll point you in the right direction (seriously!). Another possibility is look for heaps of electronics on a table that may possibly look like movie props that would used for detonating explosives. Feel free to bring electronics/laptops/gadgets to the meet, you will by no means be alone. Ben Bewick aka Viperfang NB: This mail is automated, please refer to the usual sources for more information. ALUG Contact Details: Website : http://www.alug.org.uk/ IRC : #alug on irc.alug.org.uk List : http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo Twitter : http://twitter.com/anglianlug Identica: TBA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2381613902 ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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Document Freedom Day 2018
by MJ Ray 05 Mar '18

05 Mar '18

-------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: [SFD-announce] Document Freedom Day 2018 Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 15:55:46 +0700 From: Frederic Muller - DFF <fred(a)digitalfreedomfoundation.org> Reply-To: sfd-discuss(a)sf-day.org To: sfd-announce(a)sf-day.org Dear all, It is with great pleasure that we're announcing registration opening for DFD 2018. As you may know the process is slightly different now as you need to create a wiki page for your event first at http://wiki.documentfreedom.org/2018 and then register your event in order to appear on the map at http://www.documentfreedom.org/cgi-bin/register.py This avoids all the issues we had in the past with some addresses we could not find on OpenStreetMap as you now manually select the place. As usual Document Freedom Day is on the last Wednesday of March which will be Wednesday 28 this year. As usual you can find more information about the things you can do on our website at http://www.documentfreedom.org/getinvolved . A big thank you goes to our usual sponsors and more specifically Google, Linode and Ubuntu who have been supporting us for years. Then we have our partners in crime such as the FSFE and the FSF and the happy media sponsors. More about them here: http://www.digitalfreedomfoundation.org/index.php/sponsors Should anyone have any issue or question please let us know on the mailing list. Thank you very much and have a colorful Document Freedom Day 2018! Kind regards, Frederic Muller ---------------- Digital Freedom Foundation _______________________________________________ SFD-announce mailing list SFD-announce(a)sf-day.org http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-announce -- MJR http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ Member of http://www.software.coop/ (but this email is my personal view only)

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2600 meeting at 18:00 on Friday the 2nd March.
by Viperfang 28 Feb '18

28 Feb '18

Quick heads up about this months Norwich 2600 meeting, more info at http://www.norwich2600.co.uk

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Nextcloud, Evolution and HTML 301 error
by Phil Thane 18 Feb '18

18 Feb '18

Hi, I'm baffled. I have a Nextcloud server and one of the things I use it for is Contacts sync. It worked fine (as far as I know) until yesterday when I tried to save a new contact from an email in Evolution. When I try to save I get a 301 error ie the server address has changed. Except it hasn't, I've checked. I can access the server via the web interface and the Nextcloud client still syncs files OK. Suggestions? -- Phil

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PDF manipulation: splitting A3 into A4 consitutent parts
by Mark Rogers 18 Feb '18

18 Feb '18

I have a few PDFs which are scanned newsletters. Printed, each is a sheet of A3 folded to create a 4-page A4 newsletter. Scanned, what I have is a PDF comprising two A3 pages (each therefore having two A4 pages on it). As a result, the PDF when viewed effectively shows pages in the order 4 (back page), 1 (front page), 2, 3. (That's one A3 sheet containing pages 4&1, and another containing 2&3, as a two-page PDF.) I want to turn this into a new PDF comprising four A4 pages in the obvious 1,2,3,4 page order. Suggestions? If the pages were A4 I could use pdftk: pdftk in.pdf cat 2-4 1 output out.pdf .. but pdftk can currently only "see" two A3 pages so that won't work. Another consideration: The scan appears to have included an OCR layer which makes much of the text content searchable and I'd like to not lose that. The original newsletters are lost to time so I can't rescan. (This exercise is for a website that's creating a historical archive of which these PDFs will form a part.) -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) 21 Drakes Mews, Milton Keynes, MK8 0ER

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Libreoffice Writer URLs
by Mark Rogers 13 Feb '18

13 Feb '18

Apologies as not strictly a Linux question, but: Does anyone know how to remove the formatting of URLs in a Libreoffice Writer (.odt) document when printed, without removing them for other purposes (eg PDFs)? There's little point underlining and changing the colour of a link in a printed document that you can't click on, but I'd like to leave them clickable (and marked as such) in PDFs where they do serve a purpose. I feel like I must be missing something. -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) 21 Drakes Mews, Milton Keynes, MK8 0ER

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[ALUG Announce] ALUG Norwich Pub Meet Thursday 8th February
by Viperfang 06 Feb '18

06 Feb '18

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- Hello Norwich Aluggers, Our monthly ALUG Norwich social meeting will be held this Thursday, 8th February at The Coach and Horses (82 Thorpe Road, Norwich, NR1 1BA). The meeting officially starts at 8pm, although some people may arrive earlier. More information on those people can be found on the list and the IRC channel. If you are unsure if you will recognise us then make yourself and your intent to attend known by either posting on list or visiting us on IRC so we can look out for you rather than hiding in the corner. Optionally you could ask at the bar if they know where the geeky computer weirdos are and they'll point you in the right direction (seriously!). Another possibility is look for heaps of electronics on a table that may possibly look like movie props that would used for detonating explosives. Feel free to bring electronics/laptops/gadgets to the meet, you will by no means be alone. Ben Bewick aka Viperfang NB: This mail is automated, please refer to the usual sources for more information. ALUG Contact Details: Website : http://www.alug.org.uk/ IRC : #alug on irc.alug.org.uk List : http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo Twitter : http://twitter.com/anglianlug Identica: TBA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2381613902 ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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How to get a script to ask for ssh login password only once?
by Chris Green 05 Feb '18

05 Feb '18

I have a script that runs ssh several times to do some manipulations on a remote system and also runs rsync to the same remote system two or three times. Is there some way to get a single entry of the ssh password to work for all the ssh and rsync calls? I *could* use key authentication but that has some downsides so I'd prefer to remain with using a password. One approach is to use 'ControlMaster auto' in the .ssh/config which means all subsequent logins will re-use the first one, this however means that I need to have a 'persistent' first ssh. I've managed this by doing 'ssh -fN esprimo bash' at the start of the script but this then leaves the ssh running for ever and I'd prefer that not to happen. Has anyone got any better ideas? -- Chris Green

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2600 meeting at 18:00 on Friday the 2nd February.
by Viperfang 30 Jan '18

30 Jan '18

Quick heads up about this months Norwich 2600 meeting, more info at http://www.norwich2600.co.uk

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New Server Installation Traditional BIOS mode or EUFI mode?
by steve-ALUG＠hst.me.uk 29 Jan '18

29 Jan '18

Having brought myself a shiny new Lenovo Thinkserver https://www.serversdirect.co.uk/p/1182461/lenovo-thinkserver-ts150-intel-pe… and tracked down all the cables and caddies required to make it run... I started installing *buntu on it, and then I had a thought, stopped and now not sure of the best way to go. It can run in EUFI mode, or traditional BIOS mode. Any thoughts? I've never had a machine with EUFI. Is that the way to go? Any gotchas? Any thoughts or experience appreciated. Cheers Steve

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autoreply to email for non-existent users - (resent because I sent the previous one from the wrong email address!)
by mick 29 Jan '18

29 Jan '18

(Apologies to list maintainers. I'm an idiot. Please delete the earlier mail sent from the wrong address). Hi Guys Some advice please. I own a bunch of domains, not all of which have many (or in some cases, any) real users. One domain name in particular is (accidentally) very similar to a domain in use by a UK QUANGO (one character different). Consequently my domain receives a fair amount of email intended for the other. Naturally I just bounce all email to my domain with a "550 5.1.1 <blah@domain>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual mailbox table;" When I first set up mail on the domain (back in 2011) and started to get lots of mail I did some research and found the QUANGO which should be getting the email. I contacted them and told them about the issue and suggested that they let all their contacts know about the problem. Herein, of course, lies a difficulty. Apart from their regular correspondents, they cannot know in advance who will email them. I left it, and figured that over time the volume of email would tail off as people caught on. But now, seven years later, I'm /still/ getting mail to my domain which should go elsewhere and which I simply bounce. My logs get cluttered with the bounce message and the end user may or may not know what to do about the failed delivery since I'm just telling them that the user doesn't exist, when they may think he does. Now to the question. I'm building a new email server (postfix) and I'm moving some of my doamins to that new server. Since it's a nice clean sparkly new server I'd like to ensure that I don't just move an existing problem from one MTA to another. So I've been pondering whether (and if so how) to implement an autoreply mechanism for my domain which sends a friendly message to the sender saying something like "Hi, you may have a typo in your email address for blah@mydomain. I run that domain and I get a lot of email there which is probably intended for blah@otherdomain. You may like to try resending to the proper address." I think I could probably set up something using vacation with a catchall alias for any address at my domain. But I'm aware of the potential for a complete balls up if I get this wrong. If "bad people" (TM) find that my mail system will autorespond to any address at a particular domain it could be used as a spamming mechanism which might get my sparkly new MTA blacklisted. I don't want that. So - any advice on the best approach? Or should I just suck it up as I currently do and not bother trying to be helpful? Cheers Mick --------------------------------------------------------------------- Mick Morgan gpg fingerprint: FC23 3338 F664 5E66 876B 72C0 0A1F E60B 5BAD D312 http://baldric.net/about-trivia ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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RAID: mdadm vs brtfs raid
by steve-ALUG＠hst.me.uk 28 Jan '18

28 Jan '18

I was reading the latest Linux Format which is talking about building a new machine. It really surprised me when talking about RAID when it suggested to use btrfs instead of mdadm. Even if I use mdadm, I may try out btfs instead of ext4. I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts? Steve

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Combining log files
by Mark Rogers 26 Jan '18

26 Jan '18

I have many gigabytes of .gz compressed log files, generally in very small files. For example, one file only contains entries from 20180114-205608 to 20180114-205746 (about 90s), and is about 350k compressed. I want to extract these and combine them into one file per day*, compressed. Log file entries are in date/time order, and filenames are easily sorted into date/time order too, so I can easily generate a stream of log entries in date/time order from which to work. So I assume that what I need is something to pipe that to that will look at the date of each line, and if it's changed close any existing output file, open a new one (gzipped), and write to it until the date changes or EOF. I could write something like that in a scripting language (for my sins PHP would be easiest, Python I'm getting better at, bash could likely do it too). But given the volume of data are there any suggestions as to the "right" tool to use? Is this a job for awk or similar? As an aside: The files are all archived on my Linux box, but they're sourced from a Windows box, so a cross-platform solution would allow me to do it on the host; transferring lots of small files isn't as efficient as a few big files (athough I have archives going back years on my Linux box to work through first). * I say a file per day but ideally I could be flexible about the period - day is most likely and probably easiest though -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) 21 Drakes Mews, Milton Keynes, MK8 0ER

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