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by Denis Shaul 13 Oct '04

13 Oct '04

Please cancel my subscription to ALUG list Denis Shaul -- Denis Shaul denis(a)felmingham.me.uk

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why i like linux
by the shadow 12 Oct '04

12 Oct '04

i have been using linux for about 7 months. i have tried using knoppix, gentoo(didnt finish install), mandrake. i now use redhat which i have been using for about 2 months. the main reason i use linux is because i am a programmer and i use my box as a webserver. i also like being able to use an os that is open source because of the amount of programs released. _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger

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[ALUG Announce]Reminder: Norwich City Gate meeting this Thursday night.
by Jonathan McDowell 12 Oct '04

12 Oct '04

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- As per usual, this Thursday (14th October) we'll be congregating in the City Gate from around 8pm. At least myself, Brett, Kirsten and Adam should be there, and Eli might also make it. Full details can be found at: http://www.alug.org.uk/meetings/2004/all-NorThu.html Directions at: http://www.alug.org.uk/venues/citygate.html Pictures from August of people so you know who to look out for: http://www.earth.li/~noodles/Photos/2004-08-ALUG/ J. -- /-\ | Don't be a stranger. |@/ Debian GNU/Linux Developer | \- | ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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querying RAM
by Richard Lewis 12 Oct '04

12 Oct '04

Hello ALUG, I'm running Debian on my server. Does anyone know if there's a way of established what my RAM upgrade options are (i.e. slots and speeds, rather than $ free -m) without switching the machine off? Cheers, Richard

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And another thing...
by Anthony Anson 12 Oct '04

12 Oct '04

Where can I find a pretty comprehensive list of commands for the Debian command line? TIA -- Tony http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ God sends the meat, the Devil sends the cooks.

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FOR SALE: Sharp Zaurus SL-5500 Linux PDA
by Jamie French 12 Oct '04

12 Oct '04

Hi Guys, Hope all is well! I have not been in the scene lately as I purely don't have the time. Hence my lack of time and in need of money I am selling my Zaurus on ebay @ http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5725424664&ssPage… with all accessories. The reserve price is very resonable, so have a bid and see what happens :) Take Care, Jamie ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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Re: [ALUG] querying RAM
by Richard Lewis 12 Oct '04

12 Oct '04

On Tuesday, October 12, 2004, at 10:55 AM, adam(a)thebowery.co.uk wrote: > On Tue, Oct 12, 2004 at 09:34:32AM +0100, Richard Lewis wrote: >> Hello ALUG, >> >> I'm running Debian on my server. >> >> Does anyone know if there's a way of established what my RAM upgrade >> options are (i.e. slots and speeds, rather than $ free -m) without >> switching the machine off? > > We were just kicking around a few ideas on IRC, you can try > > apt-get install dmidecode > > and then looking at the output of dmidecode, homepage here > http://www.nongnu.org/dmidecode/ > Hey, thats really cool! I never knew there was so much to a computer :-) Richard

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Re: nostalgia clearout
by phil 12 Oct '04

12 Oct '04

> > Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 22:04:01 +0100 > From: Big Dave <digbave(a)gmail.com> > Reply-To: Big Dave <digbave(a)gmail.com> > To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > Subject: Re: [ALUG] nostalgia clearout > > i might be interested in some of them, but for my father, he has a > strange liking of the beige beasts... > OK - let me know, I'm working thru them one by one, taking off all the "stuff" off... Don't think they'll be allowed in the dining room for long! Most of them have ethernet cards in, except the LC475.

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nostalgia clearout
by phil 12 Oct '04

12 Oct '04

Evening - just having a clearout of all my old beige Mac stuff. We have a LC475 (beautiful beige pizza box), Performa 630, Quadra 650, Quadra 960, Powermac 7100, and a 9600. Unbelievably they all still work (well, I'm working through the pile now...) - except the newest which is the 9600 with a dead video card. Robbed it for my YDL Linux machine. I guess Linux could be put on the last two... There's appletalk boxes & network cables - thought about setting up a quick network game of Spectre Supreme for nostalgia's sake, but just haven't got the room! The Quadra 650 boots in 30 seconds, and has run word 5.0 like everybody wishes it would run now! My 76 year old father-in-law used it for years, without a single crash. Can't bring myself to scrap this stuff cos it all just works like the day it was bought - anyone know anybody that might be interested? Phil www.figureone.co.uk

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Lots of hardware, mostly free to good homes
by Chris Green 12 Oct '04

12 Oct '04

I have decided I really need to clear out some of my old hardware and systems, to avoid cluttering up this list I've put what's available on my web pages at http://www.isbd.net/computerbits.html The list won't be complete so if you have a desperate need for some sort of ISA card drop me a mail, you'd be suprised what I have lying about! Among other things there will be a Brother 1060 dual bin laser printer and one or two complete systems with processors around the 300MHz mark which would probably make good ipCop forewalls for example. -- Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk) "Never ascribe to malice, that which can be explained by incompetence."

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RE: [ALUG] DSL anyone?
by e154 11 Oct '04

11 Oct '04

>===== Original Message From chris.green(a)isbd.co.uk ===== >On Sat, Oct 09, 2004 at 11:26:08PM +0100, Wayne Stallwood wrote: >> > >> This is a habit I really want to get into. I currently never turn my home >> machine off, I don't care about the electricity costs but worry about the >> environmental impact of everybody doing this. install climateprediction.net and then your PC will do something useful to help climate science whilst it is on.

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 11 Oct '04

11 Oct '04

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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A connection conundrum - can it be done?
by Barry Samuels 08 Oct '04

08 Oct '04

I have a laptop which I take on holiday and would like to use it to connect to my machine at home. My machine at home is on ADSL and my ISP also gives me a dial-up number. I can connect via the dial-up number but my IP address is exactly the same as the fixed IP address of my home machine on ADSL. Having connected via dial-up is there any way I can connect to my home machine as both machines then have the same IP address? Am I missing anything obvious here? Barry Samuels http://www.beenthere-donethat.org.uk The Unofficial Guide to Great Britain

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Gigabit copper networks
by Chris Green 08 Oct '04

08 Oct '04

I need a new switch to use with our new wireless broadband so, seeing as Gigabit switches are now relatively cheap, what else do I need to know about Gigabit over copper:- Can I use existing Cat5e cables? Does Gigabit degrade gracefully over less than perfect connections? Are there shorter cable length limits? Are Cat6 cables really necessary or won't I see much difference using Cat5 over short distances? Is there a good web site anywhere with all this sort of information on it? -- Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk) "Never ascribe to malice, that which can be explained by incompetence."

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usb-storage trouble
by MJ Ray 08 Oct '04

08 Oct '04

I have a computer with a VIA VT82C686 chipset which uses the UHCI usb driver of the Linux kernel. I'm running 2.6.9-rc3 now, but also tried 2.6.4. I have a couple of usb-storage devices which don't work in this machine. Plugging one in and modprobe of usb-storage (hotplug disabled for debugging) produces log lines finishing with those below. That is for an Oracom ORC-200M, which should appear as a 128Mb sda1 partition in the end. It appears in /proc/scsi/usb-storage/1 but has lots of "Unknown". It doesn't appear under "Attached devices:" in /proc/scsi/scsi When I try to rmmod usb-storage, it hangs sometimes. ps shows "[scsi_eh_1]" in state DW, which usually means it's wanting to read something IME. I have tons of debug output, far more than I can post: if anything else would help, please ask. I have other usb-storage devices that work on this machine (disconnected when trying this) and these devices work on other machines here (OHCI usb driver, though). It would really help to have them connect to this machine. I've searched around and can't figure this one out. Help! Oct 8 12:52:45 bouncing kernel: usb-storage: -- Result from auto-sense is 0 Oct 8 12:52:45 bouncing kernel: usb-storage: -- code: 0x55, key: 0x2, ASC: 0x1, ASCQ: 0x0 Oct 8 12:52:45 bouncing kernel: usb-storage: Not Ready: No index/sector signal Oct 8 12:52:45 bouncing kernel: usb-storage: scsi cmd done, result=0x2 Oct 8 12:52:45 bouncing kernel: usb-storage: device_reset called Oct 8 12:52:45 bouncing kernel: usb-storage: usb_stor_Bulk_reset called Oct 8 12:52:45 bouncing kernel: usb-storage: usb_stor_control_msg: rq=ff rqtype=21 value=0000 index=00 len=0 Oct 8 12:52:45 bouncing kernel: usb-storage: *** thread sleeping. Oct 8 12:52:45 bouncing kernel: usb-storage: Soft reset failed: -32 Oct 8 12:52:45 bouncing kernel: usb-storage: bus_reset called -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and not of any group I know Creative copyleft computing - http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ LinuxExpo.org.uk village 6+7 Oct http://www.affs.org.uk

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Linux for kids for XMAS...
by Steve Purkiss 08 Oct '04

08 Oct '04

Hello again, My sis and a friend of hers are looking to buy PC & printer for use by "the kids" for XMAS. When I say kids, we're talking the 4+ age group. Obviously the adults will want mail, web, office, etc. but nothing too daunting - thought I'd ask if anyone has hardware + distro recommendations. We're talking easy-to-use once installed and cheap solution.... however I was thinking mini-ITX cases etc. Any ideas? I want to give them a good base to learn from ;) Steve p.s. thought I'd ask on here as still pretty lonely in LUGE at the mo... but it'll get there in time...

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Difficulties in Linuxing a machine.
by mtm＠cmp.uea.ac.uk 08 Oct '04

08 Oct '04

I have an old PC which is proving remarkably stubborn. It boots with Knoppix but any distro that actually requires access to the HD either hangs at some point in the installation process (Mandrake) or produces an installation that won't boot (Slackware). I've tried Slackware 10, Mandrake 10.0 and Mandrake 8.2. Win 98, incidently went on perfectly and has been no more troublesome than usual. There were no problems partitioning the disk or setting up LILO BTW. A friend spent a Sunday afternoon alternately playing with it and swearing at it. He has concluded that there is a very fundimnental problem with the IDE controller. The machine is an AMD K6, with a Gigabyte GA 5AA mb which has an ALI M5229 IDE controller. Can anybody offer any insights inbto what's going on and how it may be cured? -- >=======================================================================< Michael Morton | Everything is linear if plotted on School of Computer Sciences | log-log with a fat magic marker. University of East Anglia, Norwich | http://www.sys.uea.ac.uk/~mtm/work >========================================================================<

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Re: [ALUG] (no subject)
by Ian bell 07 Oct '04

07 Oct '04

G whyte wrote: > Hi Ian > > Thanks :) . I'd say Slackware is the first linux distribution I've > actually kept and liked. Previously I would try red hat or mandrake > for about a month then go back to windows when the heat got turned up > and I realised I had to put in the effort to actually get things done > in linux. > > Once I read an article reviewing Slackware in LinuxFormat I decided it > was the one for me. I wanted to properly learn linux and it suggested > Slackware was a great distro for this. > > I especially like the ease of use when it comes to the .tgz packages > and how it seems to handle well even when performing CPU intensive > operations. > > You say you graduated to slackware after 7 years , I assume you must > be well versed in Linux? > Don't know about versed but certainly well practised. The great thing about Linux is not only that it is a wonderful learning experience but there is a whole host of like minded folk ready and willing to help you. Ian -- Ian T-Bell aka RuffRecords aka RedTommo

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(no subject)
by G whyte 07 Oct '04

07 Oct '04

Hi All I've been using linux now for around a year and a half. I've tried going back to Windows but it dosen't interest me anymore. I like Linux since the Operating system feels more exposed and makes you work a little harder for the results you set out to achieve. I would say I'm still a bit of a newbie when compared to the level of people you come across in forums when seeking help. I use Slackware and sometimes Red hat since I'm starting home study for the RHCE. Thats it for now , hope I can make some sort of contribution to this mailing list. Cheers

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Cromer
by Ted 07 Oct '04

07 Oct '04

I am hoping to move to Cromer in the next few months...Anyone in or near Cromer using Linux ?? -- Regards Ted Wager Debian Linux user

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Re: [ALUG] Cromer
by C Neil Bauers 05 Oct '04

05 Oct '04

I live in Gorleston too. Neil. > I don't want to be "crabby" about Cromer (groan!) but am I all on my > todd across here in Gorleston/Great Yarmouth area? Is there a member's > list with names & locations? > > Rgds, Martin > > On Tue, 2004-10-05 at 16:36, Ian bell wrote: > > Ted wrote: > > > I am hoping to move to Cromer in the next few months...Anyone in or near > > > Cromer using Linux ?? > > > > > > > Hi Ted. I live right nearby in Northrepps. > > > > Ian > > _______________________________________________ main(a)lists.alug.org.uk http://www.alug.org.uk/ http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above!

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Q-DVDAuthor
by Graham 05 Oct '04

05 Oct '04

Has anyone on this list any experience of Q-DVDAuthor? This appears to be a QT GUI front-end for dvdauthor. I say 'appears' because I haven't yet managed to get it installed and running. Or klvemkdvd, which I'm having trouble installing because it depends on lve, which itself is a bugger to install because it doesn't have a proper config script and relies on ffmpeg source being in the right place... and so on. Gawd, aren't dependency chains a pain sometimes? (Failing that I'd settle for any XML script for dvdauthor that results in a DVD video that plays. So far all of mine are coasters. Some play - with the menus broken - on a very tolerant Ronin model, but none are accepted by my Philips DVD recorder, by Xine or by MPlayer.) -- GT

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CD-RW drive problem
by Richard Lewis 04 Oct '04

04 Oct '04

Hello ALUG, I'm having problems with a CD-RW drive. I haven't tried to use the drive until now (except when I used it to install the OS, Debian sarge net-install disc). I was just getting round to designing the backup procedure for the machine and thought it would be neat if it automatically wrote the data to a CD. But I've run into problems with the drive itself: # cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord-Clone 2.01a34 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 J°Zrg Schilling NOTE: this version of cdrecord is an inofficial (modified) release of cdrecord and thus may have bugs that are not present in the original version. Please send bug reports and support requests to <cdrtools(a)packages.debian.org>. The original author should not be bothered with problems of this version. cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver. cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'. cdrecord: cdrecord: For more information, install the cdrtools-doc cdrecord: package and read /usr/share/doc/cdrecord/README.ATAPI.setup . Hmm, so I tried, # cat /etc/fstab # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass> proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda2 none swap sw 0 0 /dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 /dev/hdb1 /home ext3 defaults 0 2 /dev/hdb2 /var ext3 defaults 0 2 /dev/hdc /media/cdrom iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0 /dev/fd0 /media/floppy auto rw,user,noauto 0 0 /dev/hdc /cdrom iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0 OK, so I tried mounting an ordinary CD-ROM # mount /cdrom mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc, or too many mounted file systems Hrmmm, and # dmesg | grep ATAPI hdc: LITE-ON LTR-16102B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive hdc: ATAPI 40X CD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, DMA And some excerpts from # lsmod isofs 32184 0 sg 34848 0 scsi_mod 109112 1 sg ide_cd 38020 0 cdrom 34720 1 ide_cd ide_disk 15872 6 ide_generic 1408 0 [permanent] ide_detect 1408 0 ide_core 141804 5 ide_cd,ide_disk,ide_generic,ide_detect,piix I'm not very good with hardware. Does anyone know what's wrong? Thanks very much, Richard -- Richard Lewis richardlewis(a)fastmail.co.uk

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 04 Oct '04

04 Oct '04

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Disposing of old kit
by Ted.Harding＠nessie.mcc.ac.uk 03 Oct '04

03 Oct '04

Hi Folks, Does anyone have suggestions for disposing usefully (i.e. not simply taking it to the tip^H^H^H recycling centre) of assorted old computer kit? (a few monitors, vidoe cards, multiport serial card, ... ) Most if not all works, in some cases with a little encouragement. So maybe someone somewhere could find a use for it. Ideally within reasonable reach of the Ely-Downham axis. Best wishes to all, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 167 1972 Date: 29-Aug-04 Time: 21:41:47 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------

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