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LAST DAY ON EBAY: Sharp Zaurus SL-5500 Linux PDA
by Jamie French 18 Oct '04

18 Oct '04

Hi Guys, Checkout my auction on EBay for my Zaurus SL-5500 with many accessories. It is on its last day, so get in quick :) http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5725424664&ssPage… Good luck. Jamie ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 18 Oct '04

18 Oct '04

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Re: querying RAM
by Richard Lewis 16 Oct '04

16 Oct '04

Hello ALUG, A couple of days ago I asked about checking out RAM info on a running machine and was pointed to the dmidecode program. I know its a little OT but.... I've been able to work that new modules should be: max module size: 512MB; voltage: 3.3V; single-bit ECC error correction. But I wonder if anyone knows if its possible, given the information below, to work out what size (in pins) and speed (PCnnn) will be compatible? Cheers, Richard ================================================== Handle 0x0007 DMI type 5, 24 bytes. Memory Controller Information Error Detecting Method: 32-bit ECC Error Correcting Capabilities: Single-bit Error Correcting Supported Interleave: One-way Interleave Current Interleave: One-way Interleave Maximum Memory Module Size: 512 MB Maximum Total Memory Size: 2048 MB Supported Speeds: Other 50 ns Supported Memory Types: Other ECC Memory Module Voltage: 3.3 V Associated Memory Slots: 4 0x0008 0x0009 0x000A 0x000B Enabled Error Correcting Capabilities: Single-bit Error Correcting Handle 0x0008 DMI type 6, 12 bytes. Memory Module Information Socket Designation: J7J1 Bank Connections: 0 0 Current Speed: Unknown Type: Other Installed Size: 128 MB (Single-bank Connection) Enabled Size: 128 MB (Single-bank Connection) Error Status: OK Handle 0x0009 DMI type 6, 12 bytes. Memory Module Information Socket Designation: J7J2 Bank Connections: 0 0 Current Speed: Unknown Type: Other Installed Size: 128 MB (Single-bank Connection) Enabled Size: 128 MB (Single-bank Connection) Error Status: OK Handle 0x000A DMI type 6, 12 bytes. Memory Module Information Socket Designation: J8J1 Bank Connections: 0 Current Speed: Unknown Type: Other Installed Size: Not Installed (Single-bank Connection) Enabled Size: Not Installed (Single-bank Connection) Error Status: OK Handle 0x000B DMI type 6, 12 bytes. Memory Module Information Socket Designation: J8J2 Bank Connections: 0 Current Speed: Unknown Type: Other Installed Size: Not Installed (Single-bank Connection) Enabled Size: Not Installed (Single-bank Connection) Error Status: OK Handle 0x000C DMI type 9, 13 bytes. System Slot Information Designation: J4E1 Type: 32-bit PCI Current Usage: In Use Length: Long ID: 1 Characteristics: 3.3 V is provided PME signal is supported Handle 0x002F DMI type 18, 23 bytes. 32-bit Memory Error Information Type: Unknown Granularity: Unknown Operation: Unknown Vendor Syndrome: Unknown Memory Array Address: Unknown Device Address: Unknown Resolution: Unknown Handle 0x0030 DMI type 16, 15 bytes. Physical Memory Array Location: System Board Or Motherboard Use: System Memory Error Correction Type: Single-bit ECC Maximum Capacity: 2 GB Error Information Handle: 0x0031 Number Of Devices: 4 Handle 0x0031 DMI type 19, 15 bytes. Memory Array Mapped Address Starting Address: 0x00000000000 Ending Address: 0x0000FFFFFFF Range Size: 256 MB Physical Array Handle: 0x0030 Partition Width: 0 Handle 0x0032 DMI type 17, 23 bytes. Memory Device Array Handle: 0x0030 Error Information Handle: 0x002F Total Width: 16 bits Data Width: 16 bits Size: 128 MB Form Factor: RIMM Set: 3 Locator: J7J1 Bank Locator: RIMM1 Type: Other Type Detail: RAMBus Speed: 400 MHz (2.5 ns) Handle 0x0033 DMI type 20, 19 bytes. Memory Device Mapped Address Starting Address: 0x00000000000 Ending Address: 0x00007FFFFFF Range Size: 128 MB Physical Device Handle: 0x0032 Memory Array Mapped Address Handle: 0x0031 Partition Row Position: 1 Handle 0x0034 DMI type 17, 23 bytes. Memory Device Array Handle: 0x0030 Error Information Handle: 0x002F Total Width: 16 bits Data Width: 16 bits Size: 128 MB Form Factor: RIMM Set: 3 Locator: J7J2 Bank Locator: RIMM2 Type: Other Type Detail: RAMBus Speed: 400 MHz (2.5 ns) Handle 0x0035 DMI type 20, 19 bytes. Memory Device Mapped Address Starting Address: 0x00008000000 Ending Address: 0x0000FFFFFFF Range Size: 128 MB Physical Device Handle: 0x0034 Memory Array Mapped Address Handle: 0x0031 Partition Row Position: 1 Handle 0x0036 DMI type 17, 23 bytes. Memory Device Array Handle: 0x0030 Error Information Handle: 0x002F Total Width: Unknown Data Width: Unknown Size: No Module Installed Form Factor: Other Set: None Locator: J8J1 Bank Locator: RIMM3 Type: Other Type Detail: None Speed: Unknown Handle 0x0037 DMI type 126, 19 bytes. Inactive Handle 0x0038 DMI type 17, 23 bytes. Memory Device Array Handle: 0x0030 Error Information Handle: 0x002F Total Width: Unknown Data Width: Unknown Size: No Module Installed Form Factor: Other Set: None Locator: J8J2 Bank Locator: RIMM4 Type: Other Type Detail: None Speed: Unknown

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I've added a few more bits for sale/free
by Chris Green 14 Oct '04

14 Oct '04

I've added a few items to my list of bits for sale/free at:- http://www.isbd.net/computerbits.html A complete system or two may be coming soon, I've just got to decide which ones to get rid of! -- Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk) "Never ascribe to malice, that which can be explained by incompetence."

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Wiki / Alug Homepage
by Dave Briggs 14 Oct '04

14 Oct '04

Can any of the Alug web team let me know what wiki system they use for the site - or is it one of their own devising? I could do with something along those lines for a little project I am working on, and any other recommendations would be much appreciated. Cheers -- Dave Briggs http://www.palimpsest.org.uk - The Home of Informed Debate on the Web

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FOR SALE: Compaq 18.2 GB SCSI Disks
by Jamie French 13 Oct '04

13 Oct '04

Hi Guys, Hope you don't mind me selling items through here, just having a clear out and would prefer to be sold through here first :) I have two Compaq 18.2GB 7200 RPM Wide Ultra2 SCSI model no. BB01811C9C Drive CPN 104922 - 001 for sale. Make me an offer! I live in Stowmarket if that helps. Take Care, Jamie ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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Subscription cancel
by Denis Shaul 13 Oct '04

13 Oct '04

Please cancel my subscription to ALUG list Denis Shaul -- Denis Shaul denis(a)felmingham.me.uk

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why i like linux
by the shadow 12 Oct '04

12 Oct '04

i have been using linux for about 7 months. i have tried using knoppix, gentoo(didnt finish install), mandrake. i now use redhat which i have been using for about 2 months. the main reason i use linux is because i am a programmer and i use my box as a webserver. i also like being able to use an os that is open source because of the amount of programs released. _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger

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[ALUG Announce]Reminder: Norwich City Gate meeting this Thursday night.
by Jonathan McDowell 12 Oct '04

12 Oct '04

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- As per usual, this Thursday (14th October) we'll be congregating in the City Gate from around 8pm. At least myself, Brett, Kirsten and Adam should be there, and Eli might also make it. Full details can be found at: http://www.alug.org.uk/meetings/2004/all-NorThu.html Directions at: http://www.alug.org.uk/venues/citygate.html Pictures from August of people so you know who to look out for: http://www.earth.li/~noodles/Photos/2004-08-ALUG/ J. -- /-\ | Don't be a stranger. |@/ Debian GNU/Linux Developer | \- | ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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querying RAM
by Richard Lewis 12 Oct '04

12 Oct '04

Hello ALUG, I'm running Debian on my server. Does anyone know if there's a way of established what my RAM upgrade options are (i.e. slots and speeds, rather than $ free -m) without switching the machine off? Cheers, Richard

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And another thing...
by Anthony Anson 12 Oct '04

12 Oct '04

Where can I find a pretty comprehensive list of commands for the Debian command line? TIA -- Tony http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ God sends the meat, the Devil sends the cooks.

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FOR SALE: Sharp Zaurus SL-5500 Linux PDA
by Jamie French 12 Oct '04

12 Oct '04

Hi Guys, Hope all is well! I have not been in the scene lately as I purely don't have the time. Hence my lack of time and in need of money I am selling my Zaurus on ebay @ http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5725424664&ssPage… with all accessories. The reserve price is very resonable, so have a bid and see what happens :) Take Care, Jamie ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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Re: [ALUG] querying RAM
by Richard Lewis 12 Oct '04

12 Oct '04

On Tuesday, October 12, 2004, at 10:55 AM, adam(a)thebowery.co.uk wrote: > On Tue, Oct 12, 2004 at 09:34:32AM +0100, Richard Lewis wrote: >> Hello ALUG, >> >> I'm running Debian on my server. >> >> Does anyone know if there's a way of established what my RAM upgrade >> options are (i.e. slots and speeds, rather than $ free -m) without >> switching the machine off? > > We were just kicking around a few ideas on IRC, you can try > > apt-get install dmidecode > > and then looking at the output of dmidecode, homepage here > http://www.nongnu.org/dmidecode/ > Hey, thats really cool! I never knew there was so much to a computer :-) Richard

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Re: nostalgia clearout
by phil 12 Oct '04

12 Oct '04

> > Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 22:04:01 +0100 > From: Big Dave <digbave(a)gmail.com> > Reply-To: Big Dave <digbave(a)gmail.com> > To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > Subject: Re: [ALUG] nostalgia clearout > > i might be interested in some of them, but for my father, he has a > strange liking of the beige beasts... > OK - let me know, I'm working thru them one by one, taking off all the "stuff" off... Don't think they'll be allowed in the dining room for long! Most of them have ethernet cards in, except the LC475.

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nostalgia clearout
by phil 12 Oct '04

12 Oct '04

Evening - just having a clearout of all my old beige Mac stuff. We have a LC475 (beautiful beige pizza box), Performa 630, Quadra 650, Quadra 960, Powermac 7100, and a 9600. Unbelievably they all still work (well, I'm working through the pile now...) - except the newest which is the 9600 with a dead video card. Robbed it for my YDL Linux machine. I guess Linux could be put on the last two... There's appletalk boxes & network cables - thought about setting up a quick network game of Spectre Supreme for nostalgia's sake, but just haven't got the room! The Quadra 650 boots in 30 seconds, and has run word 5.0 like everybody wishes it would run now! My 76 year old father-in-law used it for years, without a single crash. Can't bring myself to scrap this stuff cos it all just works like the day it was bought - anyone know anybody that might be interested? Phil www.figureone.co.uk

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Lots of hardware, mostly free to good homes
by Chris Green 12 Oct '04

12 Oct '04

I have decided I really need to clear out some of my old hardware and systems, to avoid cluttering up this list I've put what's available on my web pages at http://www.isbd.net/computerbits.html The list won't be complete so if you have a desperate need for some sort of ISA card drop me a mail, you'd be suprised what I have lying about! Among other things there will be a Brother 1060 dual bin laser printer and one or two complete systems with processors around the 300MHz mark which would probably make good ipCop forewalls for example. -- Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk) "Never ascribe to malice, that which can be explained by incompetence."

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RE: [ALUG] DSL anyone?
by e154 11 Oct '04

11 Oct '04

>===== Original Message From chris.green(a)isbd.co.uk ===== >On Sat, Oct 09, 2004 at 11:26:08PM +0100, Wayne Stallwood wrote: >> > >> This is a habit I really want to get into. I currently never turn my home >> machine off, I don't care about the electricity costs but worry about the >> environmental impact of everybody doing this. install climateprediction.net and then your PC will do something useful to help climate science whilst it is on.

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 11 Oct '04

11 Oct '04

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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A connection conundrum - can it be done?
by Barry Samuels 08 Oct '04

08 Oct '04

I have a laptop which I take on holiday and would like to use it to connect to my machine at home. My machine at home is on ADSL and my ISP also gives me a dial-up number. I can connect via the dial-up number but my IP address is exactly the same as the fixed IP address of my home machine on ADSL. Having connected via dial-up is there any way I can connect to my home machine as both machines then have the same IP address? Am I missing anything obvious here? Barry Samuels http://www.beenthere-donethat.org.uk The Unofficial Guide to Great Britain

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Gigabit copper networks
by Chris Green 08 Oct '04

08 Oct '04

I need a new switch to use with our new wireless broadband so, seeing as Gigabit switches are now relatively cheap, what else do I need to know about Gigabit over copper:- Can I use existing Cat5e cables? Does Gigabit degrade gracefully over less than perfect connections? Are there shorter cable length limits? Are Cat6 cables really necessary or won't I see much difference using Cat5 over short distances? Is there a good web site anywhere with all this sort of information on it? -- Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk) "Never ascribe to malice, that which can be explained by incompetence."

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usb-storage trouble
by MJ Ray 08 Oct '04

08 Oct '04

I have a computer with a VIA VT82C686 chipset which uses the UHCI usb driver of the Linux kernel. I'm running 2.6.9-rc3 now, but also tried 2.6.4. I have a couple of usb-storage devices which don't work in this machine. Plugging one in and modprobe of usb-storage (hotplug disabled for debugging) produces log lines finishing with those below. That is for an Oracom ORC-200M, which should appear as a 128Mb sda1 partition in the end. It appears in /proc/scsi/usb-storage/1 but has lots of "Unknown". It doesn't appear under "Attached devices:" in /proc/scsi/scsi When I try to rmmod usb-storage, it hangs sometimes. ps shows "[scsi_eh_1]" in state DW, which usually means it's wanting to read something IME. I have tons of debug output, far more than I can post: if anything else would help, please ask. I have other usb-storage devices that work on this machine (disconnected when trying this) and these devices work on other machines here (OHCI usb driver, though). It would really help to have them connect to this machine. I've searched around and can't figure this one out. Help! Oct 8 12:52:45 bouncing kernel: usb-storage: -- Result from auto-sense is 0 Oct 8 12:52:45 bouncing kernel: usb-storage: -- code: 0x55, key: 0x2, ASC: 0x1, ASCQ: 0x0 Oct 8 12:52:45 bouncing kernel: usb-storage: Not Ready: No index/sector signal Oct 8 12:52:45 bouncing kernel: usb-storage: scsi cmd done, result=0x2 Oct 8 12:52:45 bouncing kernel: usb-storage: device_reset called Oct 8 12:52:45 bouncing kernel: usb-storage: usb_stor_Bulk_reset called Oct 8 12:52:45 bouncing kernel: usb-storage: usb_stor_control_msg: rq=ff rqtype=21 value=0000 index=00 len=0 Oct 8 12:52:45 bouncing kernel: usb-storage: *** thread sleeping. Oct 8 12:52:45 bouncing kernel: usb-storage: Soft reset failed: -32 Oct 8 12:52:45 bouncing kernel: usb-storage: bus_reset called -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and not of any group I know Creative copyleft computing - http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ LinuxExpo.org.uk village 6+7 Oct http://www.affs.org.uk

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Linux for kids for XMAS...
by Steve Purkiss 08 Oct '04

08 Oct '04

Hello again, My sis and a friend of hers are looking to buy PC & printer for use by "the kids" for XMAS. When I say kids, we're talking the 4+ age group. Obviously the adults will want mail, web, office, etc. but nothing too daunting - thought I'd ask if anyone has hardware + distro recommendations. We're talking easy-to-use once installed and cheap solution.... however I was thinking mini-ITX cases etc. Any ideas? I want to give them a good base to learn from ;) Steve p.s. thought I'd ask on here as still pretty lonely in LUGE at the mo... but it'll get there in time...

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Difficulties in Linuxing a machine.
by mtm＠cmp.uea.ac.uk 08 Oct '04

08 Oct '04

I have an old PC which is proving remarkably stubborn. It boots with Knoppix but any distro that actually requires access to the HD either hangs at some point in the installation process (Mandrake) or produces an installation that won't boot (Slackware). I've tried Slackware 10, Mandrake 10.0 and Mandrake 8.2. Win 98, incidently went on perfectly and has been no more troublesome than usual. There were no problems partitioning the disk or setting up LILO BTW. A friend spent a Sunday afternoon alternately playing with it and swearing at it. He has concluded that there is a very fundimnental problem with the IDE controller. The machine is an AMD K6, with a Gigabyte GA 5AA mb which has an ALI M5229 IDE controller. Can anybody offer any insights inbto what's going on and how it may be cured? -- >=======================================================================< Michael Morton | Everything is linear if plotted on School of Computer Sciences | log-log with a fat magic marker. University of East Anglia, Norwich | http://www.sys.uea.ac.uk/~mtm/work >========================================================================<

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Re: [ALUG] (no subject)
by Ian bell 07 Oct '04

07 Oct '04

G whyte wrote: > Hi Ian > > Thanks :) . I'd say Slackware is the first linux distribution I've > actually kept and liked. Previously I would try red hat or mandrake > for about a month then go back to windows when the heat got turned up > and I realised I had to put in the effort to actually get things done > in linux. > > Once I read an article reviewing Slackware in LinuxFormat I decided it > was the one for me. I wanted to properly learn linux and it suggested > Slackware was a great distro for this. > > I especially like the ease of use when it comes to the .tgz packages > and how it seems to handle well even when performing CPU intensive > operations. > > You say you graduated to slackware after 7 years , I assume you must > be well versed in Linux? > Don't know about versed but certainly well practised. The great thing about Linux is not only that it is a wonderful learning experience but there is a whole host of like minded folk ready and willing to help you. Ian -- Ian T-Bell aka RuffRecords aka RedTommo

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(no subject)
by G whyte 07 Oct '04

07 Oct '04

Hi All I've been using linux now for around a year and a half. I've tried going back to Windows but it dosen't interest me anymore. I like Linux since the Operating system feels more exposed and makes you work a little harder for the results you set out to achieve. I would say I'm still a bit of a newbie when compared to the level of people you come across in forums when seeking help. I use Slackware and sometimes Red hat since I'm starting home study for the RHCE. Thats it for now , hope I can make some sort of contribution to this mailing list. Cheers

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