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Security, firewall?
by John Seago 25 Aug '04

25 Aug '04

On Thursday broadband to my address will be enabled/activated, hitherto I have just used linux, as I have been both too lazy and incompetent to set up any security or a firewall, obviously with the thing being on non-stop I'm going to have to mend my ways. On my box I have an iteration of Slackware 10 on each disk, Debian Sarge on the first disk and a space for Free/Open BSD on the second, I also have a spare box with, I think, enough resources to run another set of Slackware or BSD. I am aware of the existence of Iptables, no more than that. My question is which book should I buy, Building Internet Firewalls, or Practical Unix & Internet Security, both by O'Reilly? Then all I will have left to learn is Emacs, Networking, Email with Sendmail, Fetchmail Exim etc., etc.... -- John Seago Linux User #219566 (http://counter.li.org)

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[ALUG Announce]ALUG meeting, late September, West Norfolk
by MJ Ray 25 Aug '04

25 Aug '04

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- Hi all, I've had some interest in a meeting in West Norfolk, so I'm trying to help arrange it. I'll be happy to transport some people and kit from King's Lynn to the meeting and back. It will be a "kit fixing and demos" workshop type of meeting. If you want to attend, please email me off-list so I get an idea of numbers. If you'll be there and have a request for topic or to avoid a particular date/time, please mention it and I'll try. -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and not of any group I know http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ for creative copyleft computing ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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Television
by Stan Fraser 23 Aug '04

23 Aug '04

Is it possible to use an old ATI All in Wonder (Rage128) under Linux ie get the TV part of it working if so, how. Thanks Stan

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sane, slack10 and usb scanner
by Ian bell 23 Aug '04

23 Aug '04

I am haaving trouble getting my usb scanner to work with sane under slack 10. Basicaly the scanner is not detected sort of. scanimage -L gives no scanner found but sane-find-scanner correctly finds and identifies it (found USB scanner (vendor=0x03f0, product=0x2f11) at libusb:001:002). I don't think it is a permissions problem as I get identical results as root. I have tried adding an entry to /etc/hotplug/usb/libsane.usermap but this made no difference. libusb is version 0.1.8 sane is version 1.0.14 Any ideas? Ian

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Re: main digest, Vol 3 #255 - 7 msgs
by phil 23 Aug '04

23 Aug '04

> > Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 15:33:47 +0100 (BST) > From: =?iso-8859-1?q?david?= <davecravenromain(a)yahoo.co.uk> > To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > Subject: [ALUG] im a new user! go me! > > hello there! i am dave! i have recently installed SuSE > 8.1 pro on my personal computer and live in old > buckenham, near attleborough, in norfolk. > > i have been interested in linux for a while now, but > have not had the time or effort to try it out, after a > recent total system crash (ruddy windows) i have taken > the plunge and am now a linux user! > > Hi Dave, I'm not a million miles away in Shelfanger, running SuSE 8.2 and 9.0 on a couple of boxes at work, and YDL occasionally at home. If you need a borrow, I had the Novell Technical Resource Kit turn up the other day - three DVD's of all sorts of things including SuSE 8.2 and 9.1. Oh - anyone know how to get rid of the extra Nautilus desktop items after installing Ximian Desktop and then going back to KDE? Phil

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im a new user! go me!
by david 22 Aug '04

22 Aug '04

hello there! i am dave! i have recently installed SuSE 8.1 pro on my personal computer and live in old buckenham, near attleborough, in norfolk. i have been interested in linux for a while now, but have not had the time or effort to try it out, after a recent total system crash (ruddy windows) i have taken the plunge and am now a linux user! i am interested in web-page construction, design and stuff, and i will get into graphics as soon as i can afford a graphics tablet thingy. also, if anybody wants a cheap-ish web-site, send me an email and i'll see what i can do! yours, dave ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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im a new user! go me!
by david 22 Aug '04

22 Aug '04

hello there! i am dave! i have recently installed SuSE 8.1 pro on my personal computer and live in old buckenham, near attleborough, in norfolk. i have been interested in linux for a while now, but have not had the time or effort to try it out, after a recent total system crash (ruddy windows) i have taken the plunge and am now a linux user! i am interested in web-page construction, design and stuff, and i will get into graphics as soon as i can afford a graphics tablet thingy. also, if anybody wants a cheap-ish web-site, send me an email and i'll see what i can do! yours, dave ===== the man, the boots, the legend, dave please note all incoming chain mail will be deleted on sight, unless i am in a particulaly happy mood, then i might just read it before i delete it. peace through superior fire-power. ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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RE: [ALUG] Syleham Sunday 22nd August IMPORTANT
by Elisabeth 22 Aug '04

22 Aug '04

>===== Original Message From Steve Fosdick <lists(a)pelvoux.nildram.co.uk> ===== > >Is anyone proposing to go to Eli's place then? Hope not cos I gave up and went back to Norwich. e

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RE: [ALUG] Syleham Sunday 22nd August IMPORTANT
by Elisabeth 22 Aug '04

22 Aug '04

>===== Original Message From MJ Ray <mjr(a)dsl.pipex.com> ===== > >Can anyone arrange a meeting in Ipswich or Ely? Could use my place near Ipswich, and the borrowed barbecues will still be there. Only has dial-up, though, not broadband. Eli (sunflowerinrain)

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For nowt
by Graham 22 Aug '04

22 Aug '04

Good home wanted for 400MHz PII in silver ATX midi tower, with 128MB RAM, 6.4GB HDD, CD-ROM, floppy, network and old Philips 17" monitor (the type with the little LCD panel at the front). It was my main server until recently, with 100% reliability. SuSE 9.1 is freshly installed and working fine. I would donate it to charity but for some reason it's clever enough to refuse to install Windows. Because I'm moving soon I need to clear it to save space and clutter. Available to collect either from Wymondham or Histon.

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For sale
by Wayne Stallwood 21 Aug '04

21 Aug '04

Now that I have almost completely migrated over to my new machine the old one is up for grabs. I can't remember exactly when I built it, I think it was some time early 2001, but at the time it was a pretty cutting edge machine. (in fact for a while it was the top of the single processor list at the bogomips register) http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=%22wayne+stallwood%22+bo… Now however it is sitting redundant and unloved. Details Super expensive coolermaster Aluminium case (cost over £100 back then) AMD 1 Ghz Athlon 640MB RAM 40GB Seagate Barracuda HDD (there were more but I've nicked them) Pioneer DVD (A04) DVD-R/RW * see note below DVD ROM drive Floppy (a new one) ATI Rage 128 card (again I've nicked the Nvidia card that was in it) 3Com NIC Creative live 256 gold (or something like that) sound card (more inputs and outputs than you'll ever need) It's an Abit kt7-raid board so the drive is running on a highpoint raid controller and each of the optical drives is on it's own channel on the VIA controller. 300W PSU Logitec Wireless Keyboard and Mouse combo Naturally this machine was built to run Linux and apart from a brief flirtation with Windows XP that is all it has ever run. Everything is detected and installed with ease on our favourite Operating System. It will come with SuSE 9.1 preinstalled (and an installation DVD-R) To be honest the CPU fan is sounding a bit stressed so that will be replaced before it is sold. Also the DVD Writer has had a tendancy to make DVD coasters recently. Not sure if it's the cheapo media I have been using or the drive on it's way. You should probably presume that the drive has had it, I am only leaving it in place on the chance that it is configuration or media. This has been a great machine, enjoying uptime only limited by SuSE's kernel update release cycle. I would love to see it go to another Linux user as that was what it was built for. £150.00 Also Dell P991 19" monitor (is exactly the same as a Sony model) Trinitron flat faced screen, happy up to 1600x1200 but I ran it at 1280x1024 A really nice monitor but it's big and HEAVY £50 Or the machine plus the monitor for £185 Also Yamaha 8x4x24 SCSI CDR/W (yes it is a bit slow, but I swear it has NEVER made a coaster under Linux) in an external SCSI case (Ultra D-Sub connector) Plus an Adaptec SCSI card (linux friendly) and all the leads to use the Yamaha either internally or in the external case. £20 Plextor Ultraplex 40x Max PX-40TSi SCSI CD-ROM I used this with the kit above, the plex internally and the Yamaha in the external case (although I do have another external case for the plex if needed) Probably a bit redundant now but at the time this drive was the fastest way to rip CD-Audio. £10 Or everything listed above for £200

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Problems with NTP
by Stuart Bailey 21 Aug '04

21 Aug '04

I'm having trouble synchronising the time of my network clients using NTP. I have a server (helios.perrings) running NTP and listening on UDP 123 (confirmed usinf lsof -i). I also have configured the clients to request time from this server. However, the clients report that no time server can be found. From the documentation, it appears that the src port and dest port should both be 123, but when I do a tcpdump, I get the following results: 20:58:27.476153 IP 192.168.0.10.32851 > helios.perrings.ntp: NTPv4 client, strat 0, poll 4, prec -6 20:58:27.476927 IP helios.perrings.ntp > 192.168.0.10.32851: NTPv4 server, strat 0, poll 4, prec -18 The client's (192.168.0.10) return address is 32851, not 123 as expected. I've been trying to find where this alternative port is set, but going round in circles. Any ideas, suggestions, please? Stuart. -- --------------------------------------- Stuart Bailey BSc (hons) CEng CITP MBCS LinuSoft (Proprietor) (01953) 601294 (07778) 383739 http://www.linusoft.co.uk ---------------------------------------- ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please email postmaster(a)linusoft.co.uk immediately. You should not copy or use this email or attachments for any purpose nor disclose their contents to any other person. NO BINDING CONTRACT WILL RESULT FROM THIS E-MAIL UNTIL SUCH TIME AS A WRITTEN DOCUMENT IS SIGNED ON BEHALF OF LinuSoft. LinuSoft cannot accept any responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks. *************************************************************************

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Re: [ALUG] Problems with NTP
by Stuart Bailey 18 Aug '04

18 Aug '04

On Wednesday 18 August 2004 06:25, main-request(a)lists.alug.org.uk wrote: >> Re: [ALUG] Problems with NTP >> I'm having trouble synchronising the time of my network clients using NTP. I >> have a server (helios.perrings) running NTP and listening on UDP 123 >Which distribution? Suse 9.1. >> From the documentation, it appears that the src port and dest port >> should both be 123, >Really? "man ntpd" doesn't mention the port number at all. When issue man ntpd, the resulting page says that ntpd does not come with man pages - instead look at the documentation that came with it. From the documentation: http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/html/quick.html " That's all there is to it, unless some problem in network connectivity or local operating system configuration occurs. The most common problem is some firewall between the workstation and server. System administrators should understand NTP uses UDP port 123 as both the source and destination port and that NTP does not involve any operating system interaction other than to set the system clock. " I've also just found this from SuSE after re-installing ntp: "CAVEATS ------- The latest NTPv4 ntpdc does not work with previous versions of ntpd and previous versions of ntpdc do not work with latest ntpd. This situation is regrettable and may be fixed in future; however, it is necessary in order for the autokey function to retrieve canonical names and certificates from directory services such as Secure DNS." Stuart. -- --------------------------------------- Stuart Bailey BSc (hons) CEng CITP MBCS LinuSoft (Proprietor) (01953) 601294 (07778) 383739 http://www.linusoft.co.uk ---------------------------------------- ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please email postmaster(a)linusoft.co.uk immediately. You should not copy or use this email or attachments for any purpose nor disclose their contents to any other person. NO BINDING CONTRACT WILL RESULT FROM THIS E-MAIL UNTIL SUCH TIME AS A WRITTEN DOCUMENT IS SIGNED ON BEHALF OF LinuSoft. LinuSoft cannot accept any responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks. *************************************************************************

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Syleham Sunday 22nd August IMPORTANT
by bj 16 Aug '04

16 Aug '04

ALUG meeting at Syleham CANCELLED! Due to a family crisis I am unable to host the meeting on Sunday. I do apologise especially to Eli who I know has made a personal sacrifice to ensure she could attend. I will reschedule it as soon as I can please accept my sincere apologies. Cheers, BJ

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 16 Aug '04

16 Aug '04

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Changing subscription email address
by Ian bell 15 Aug '04

15 Aug '04

I want to change the email address to/from which I subscribe to the ALUG mailing list. However, the personal admin page only allows me to change my password. I could unsubscribe and resubscribe but I wondered if there were not a neater method? Ian Bell

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Loki Games
by Wayne Stallwood 15 Aug '04

15 Aug '04

Does anybody own a copy of Soldier of Fortune for Linux that they are bored with/wish to sell. I have checked with all the UK Loki resellers I can find and nobody has stock any longer. Unlike some of the earlier loki ports it is not possible (AFAIK) to simply use a combination of the linux demo binary and the Windows version maps with this game.

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Re: [ALUG] FTP/HTTP install of Mandrake 10
by Wayne Stallwood 14 Aug '04

14 Aug '04

On Saturday 14 August 2004 10:31 pm, Chris Walker wrote: > I beginning to think it won't be finished before it's time for my beauty > sleep. It's been saying 7:00 for some time now. I began to suspect that it > had the same sort of problems that Windows does when it's moving/copying > files but I can see by clicking 'details' that it is actually doing > something. Also from the fact network traffic on this machine has slowed to > a crawl. Hmm. Latest check now says 7:33! For future reference (and in case you ever need to access the installation RPMS and have lost internet access) this is how to do a loopback mount Create a mount point somewhere by creating an empty folder there. Personally with loopbacks I like to do it in my home directory, but it depends on what you are doing with it. For this example mkdir /home/wayne/mandrake mount -r -o loop whatever.iso /home/wayne/mandrake Now if you browse over to the mandrake folder you will see the contents of the iso If you require write access to the iso then simply omit the -r Don't forget to umount it when you are finished.

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Re: [ALUG] FTP/HTTP install of Mandrake 10
by Wayne Stallwood 14 Aug '04

14 Aug '04

On Saturday 14 August 2004 9:29 pm, Chris Walker wrote: > I wouldn't know *how* to do that ;-) > > But I did manage to find the file it was looking for following your > suggestion. I pointed it at the server having looked for it using this > machine - not a Linux or Windows box btw but that's where the iso images > are - and then found that it was looking for mdkinst_stage2.bz2 and so I > could then enter the path. It's currently 'Loading program into memory' as > I type this, so many thanks. Ahh good stuff, I hope you are patient. I did a SuSE box using the same method the other day and it took about half a day to install all the packages.

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Barbecue in Belstead, Saturday 14 August
by Elisabeth 13 Aug '04

13 Aug '04

My place, 4pm until Sunday morning. Email for directions. Bring food and drink. Then to Snetterton Sunday midday for the KRC Endurance racing. Eli (sunflowerinrain)

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Re: samba
by phil 13 Aug '04

13 Aug '04

> > From: Wayne Stallwood <ALUGlist(a)digimatic.plus.com> > To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > Subject: Re: [ALUG] samba > Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 19:00:04 +0100 > > On Thursday 12 August 2004 6:23 pm, phil wrote: >> Anyone with any experience of connecting Linux and OSX? I have 2 linux >> boxes (SuSe 8.2 & 9.0) at work which seem to connect fine over Samba >> to >> Winders machines. The 8.2 doesn't connect to a Samba share on OSX >> (jaguar), whereas the 9.0 connects - but painfully slow. Any >> experiences with Samba working at completely different speeds? >> > Not experienced that particular problem, but there were a lot of fixes > applied > to samba in the Panther release (specifically when I upgraded OSX to > 10.3.3 > at a clients a lot of samba issues they had simply vanished) Ihave Panther on another machine - I'll try from that. > > You didn't mention, but I assume that the Windows machines connect to > the OSX > shares at a reasonable speed ? Yes, they connect fine. > > When you say painfully slow are to referring to the actual time to > connect or > data transfer to/from the share (or both) Both. > > How are you managing passwords, do you have a samba box running as a > PDC, a > Windows box doing that or are you not running a domain ? Not running a domain at the moment. > > Anything interesting happening in the Mac's logs when the 8.2 box > fails to > connect ? I'll have to check - at the moment it's off as I've run out of elec sockets, and the box with 9 on is plugged in there instead!

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samba
by phil 12 Aug '04

12 Aug '04

Anyone with any experience of connecting Linux and OSX? I have 2 linux boxes (SuSe 8.2 & 9.0) at work which seem to connect fine over Samba to Winders machines. The 8.2 doesn't connect to a Samba share on OSX (jaguar), whereas the 9.0 connects - but painfully slow. Any experiences with Samba working at completely different speeds?

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Reminder: Norwich City Gate meeting this Thursday night.
by Stuart Bailey 10 Aug '04

10 Aug '04

Could someone attending the meeting at City Gate this week please take a penguin for the table. I'm going to try and attend this month, but since I don't know anyone, it would be easier to identify the penguin. Many thanks. -- --------------------------------------- Stuart Bailey BSc (hons) CEng CITP MBCS LinuSoft (Proprietor) (01953) 601294 (07778) 383739 http://www.linusoft.co.uk ---------------------------------------- ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please email postmaster(a)linusoft.co.uk immediately. You should not copy or use this email or attachments for any purpose nor disclose their contents to any other person. NO BINDING CONTRACT WILL RESULT FROM THIS E-MAIL UNTIL SUCH TIME AS A WRITTEN DOCUMENT IS SIGNED ON BEHALF OF LinuSoft. LinuSoft cannot accept any responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks. *************************************************************************

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Hunstanton ??
by Ted 09 Aug '04

09 Aug '04

I am thinking of moving to Hunstanton and would like to know if there are any Linux users in the near vicinity ?? -- Regards Ted Wager Using Blag Linux

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Reminder: announce list being unused
by MJ Ray 09 Aug '04

09 Aug '04

No-one is telling announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk about meetings or other ALUG news. Please do. Posts on announce will go to main too, although the moderation adds a little delay. There are 53 ALUG members there, many who aren't on main, usually because main gets too busy for them. I don't have time to write everything that probably should go to that list. -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and not of any group I know http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ for creative copyleft computing Please email about: BT alternative for line rental+DSL; Education on SMEs+EU FP6; office filing that works fast

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